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Season 8 Homepage V
First topic message reminder :
2015/2016 - Sale Sharks
2014/2015 – London Wasps
Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2015/2016 - Sale Sharks
2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | Sale Sharks | 22 | 19 | 2 | 1 | 595 | 514 | 81 | 60 | 38 | 7 | 1 | 88 | |
2 | Harlequins | 22 | 15 | 2 | 5 | 590 | 526 | 64 | 56 | 39 | 4 | 5 | 73 | |
3 | Northampton Saints ** | 22 | 16 | 2 | 4 | 571 | 514 | 57 | 49 | 35 | 3 | 3 | 72 | |
4 | Saracens | 22 | 11 | 3 | 8 | 561 | 529 | 32 | 50 | 36 | 3 | 8 | 61 | |
5 | Newcastle Falcons | 22 | 12 | 1 | 9 | 553 | 530 | 23 | 43 | 42 | 1 | 8 | 59 | |
6 | London Irish | 22 | 11 | 0 | 11 | 547 | 561 | -14 | 39 | 41 | 2 | 10 | 56 | |
7 | Worcester Warriors | 22 | 9 | 2 | 11 | 536 | 554 | -18 | 42 | 46 | 1 | 11 | 52 | |
8 | Gloucester * | 22 | 10 | 0 | 12 | 534 | 550 | -16 | 43 | 42 | 0 | 12 | 51 | |
9 | Bath Rugby | 22 | 7 | 3 | 12 | 534 | 551 | -17 | 42 | 48 | 0 | 12 | 46 | |
10 | Leicester Tigers | 22 | 7 | 1 | 14 | 520 | 554 | -34 | 31 | 44 | 0 | 13 | 43 | |
11 | Exeter Chiefs ** | 22 | 4 | 2 | 16 | 518 | 577 | -59 | 35 | 50 | 0 | 14 | 32 | |
12 | London Wasps | 22 | 2 | 0 | 20 | 479 | 578 | -99 | 26 | 55 | 0 | 14 | 22 |
Links
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Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
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Anglo Welsh Homepage
Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage
Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.
Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
Player Draft
Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.
Round Bidding
There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.
Open Bidding
From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.
For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
prop_lyd- Posts : 10387
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Great step and pace from Savea!
What he lacks at the breakdown, he certainly makes up for in the loose!
What he lacks at the breakdown, he certainly makes up for in the loose!
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Why do the Australians play music at every break?
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I don't think Robshaw had anywhere else too put his left arm there.
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Scrappy game so far.
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As English as a pork pie that try
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How are we not getting scrum pens??? Slipper is having real issues against Cole, keeps folding in.
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Joubert is stood the wrong side, Hartley needs too ask him too come stand Coles side.
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About time! Cole has Slipper on toast....you're right Driver
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All of that pressure because of restarts. Need to sort it.
Very lucky to not get a yellow. Folau is some player ball in hand.
Very lucky to not get a yellow. Folau is some player ball in hand.
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Hartley's body position really poor at that maul, all his power going up over rather than into the maul.
If I was Guzzy/Borthwick I'd be a bit mad
If I was Guzzy/Borthwick I'd be a bit mad
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Intense half of rugby! Haskell is smashing everything in sight. Kerevi having a great game.
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Think we need Clifford on for Robshaw soon, need pace but can imagine Robshaw keeping some of the hot head players calm out there
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Great defence, cracking turnover from Robshaw
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Foley is a huge issue for Australia. They hide him in defence and his kicking is not great. Great attacking threat but I don't think you can carry someone at int level. It's the quade cooper conundrum again.
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Agree with Barnes, Ford's defence has been great.
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What a game! Backs against the wall but immense defence. Huge scrum to finish the game off.
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Great game. Haskell, itoje, Cole, ford etc all excellent. Can't think of one player who did not turn up.
Still plenty to work on but progressing well. Makes you see how poor Lancaster was
Still plenty to work on but progressing well. Makes you see how poor Lancaster was
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I'm playing Jamie George in the backs next season
BamBam- Posts : 17226
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Bloody good match, incredible result!
My Aussie props got mullered, but "worst back rower on the pitch" Robshaw seemed to do pretty well . Great defensive effort all around, think we will HAVE to rest some players next week, they must be a bit knackered!
Barclay doing very well for Scotland too, also WP Nel is an incredible scrummager
My Aussie props got mullered, but "worst back rower on the pitch" Robshaw seemed to do pretty well . Great defensive effort all around, think we will HAVE to rest some players next week, they must be a bit knackered!
Barclay doing very well for Scotland too, also WP Nel is an incredible scrummager
ChequeredJersey- Posts : 18707
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Anyone know a stream that will work on an iPad for the Ireland game ?
Away on holiday and can't get sky to work in my place.
Away on holiday and can't get sky to work in my place.
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I use Kodi these days on Android or laptop. Not sure if you can get it on an ipad
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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SA so bad, can't even catch the ball. Jantes really not up to this level. Even SA pack look bad
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SA scrum getting took to the cleaners. Watching with a group of South Africans, they're not amused.
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Who is the SA no9, am watching it with the sound off as looking after the niece and he is having an awful game. But at the same time the Irish are really dominating them across the park. Seems a really odd team the SA have selected.
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Faf de Klerk, has a quick pass but very erratic. Lions players making a big impact.
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England were brilliant today, thought Mako had his best game for England, was just everywhere hitting tackles - Hartley and Cole also had very good games.
Agree with you CJ about Robshaw, he had another fantastic game and would have had him as motm without any question at all, it wasn't just his tackling but he seemed to be the guy who made the try saving tackle or important turnover at the key moment. Was a brilliant performance from him. Haskell had another great game as well, he looked like he had nothing left at the end.
Agree with you CJ about Robshaw, he had another fantastic game and would have had him as motm without any question at all, it wasn't just his tackling but he seemed to be the guy who made the try saving tackle or important turnover at the key moment. Was a brilliant performance from him. Haskell had another great game as well, he looked like he had nothing left at the end.
dammit_chris- Posts : 8685
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Ah that's who it is!
You're right about the Lions players making an impact, that winger has made some great runs - doesnt look like he'd be that powerful a runner.
You're right about the Lions players making an impact, that winger has made some great runs - doesnt look like he'd be that powerful a runner.
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He's a beast for a smallish guy, smashed Payne back a few times.
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Amazing how quickly a game can change! SA just kept hold of the ball and starved Ireland of possession, the subs made the difference.
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Awful attempt at a tackle from Murray, can't believe SA are winning
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Anyone heard of part of the game where Hooper threw some sand into Haskell's face at a scrum? Haven't seen the video of it yet, but doesnt sound good.
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Was the lions winger conninbrick ? If so he is best wing in SA a mystery why he does not start
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anonmattyt wrote:Was the lions winger conninbrick ? If so he is best wing in SA a mystery why he does not start
Guys I was with were raving about him, never realised he was that good tbh. Some odd selections from SA and their big players were generally dire.
Hooper possibly cited I heard.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:anonmattyt wrote:Was the lions winger conninbrick ? If so he is best wing in SA a mystery why he does not start
Guys I was with were raving about him, never realised he was that good tbh. Some odd selections from SA and their big players were generally dire.
Hooper possibly cited I heard.
Can also play 13 and 15. Super talent. SA have some real issues quota wise and black winger are seen as easier to accomodate than black forwards.
New generation of good black players in pack like solisi,junior pokomela etc.
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Who on earth is Junior Pokomela
BamBam- Posts : 17226
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http://www.talkingrugbyunion.co.uk/so-who-is-junior-pokomela/14734.htm
You are starting to see a growing black middle class who are going to the right schools in South Africa.
I signed pokomela about 4 years ago as he is managed by my friend who is an agent in SA. He also handles most of the stormers, handre Pollard etc. The buzz around pokomela and a few other black players has been about for a long time
You are starting to see a growing black middle class who are going to the right schools in South Africa.
I signed pokomela about 4 years ago as he is managed by my friend who is an agent in SA. He also handles most of the stormers, handre Pollard etc. The buzz around pokomela and a few other black players has been about for a long time
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What a game on Saturday...
Seen another angle of the incident with Hooper, didn't make any contact with Haskell.
Seen another angle of the incident with Hooper, didn't make any contact with Haskell.
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The first angle looked bad, but saw the same one Fluxy and glad to see Hooper didnt do anything wrong, as would have been so out of character.
Papers saying that Jones will make 5 changes to starting lineup as players are absolutely spent, expecting Cole, Kruis, Haskell to drop out with possibly Robshaw as well, with Goode starting at no15.
Papers saying that Jones will make 5 changes to starting lineup as players are absolutely spent, expecting Cole, Kruis, Haskell to drop out with possibly Robshaw as well, with Goode starting at no15.
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I would like to see some guys get a go now, but not too many drastic changes, so that we can still maintain a solid platform.
Would like to see Mullan, Launch, Clifford, Daly and Yarde to get a good 60 minutes or more.
I was wondering if Eddie would start looking towards Nowell or Watson at 15, but I think they have nailed down the wing spots really.
Would like to see Mullan, Launch, Clifford, Daly and Yarde to get a good 60 minutes or more.
I was wondering if Eddie would start looking towards Nowell or Watson at 15, but I think they have nailed down the wing spots really.
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Nowell is injured, so Yarde and Watson will be the wings, would have been interesting otherwise
I reckon we're going to see Itoje at 6 with Lawes/Launch in 2nd row - Kruis/Robshaw needs the rest and they have been decent off the bench
If Billy can play 80 he'll start at 8, if not I think we'll see Clifford/Harrison line up at 7/8 in some order
Hartley might be benched too apparently, George deserves a start (be it at hooker or inside centre )
I reckon we're going to see Itoje at 6 with Lawes/Launch in 2nd row - Kruis/Robshaw needs the rest and they have been decent off the bench
If Billy can play 80 he'll start at 8, if not I think we'll see Clifford/Harrison line up at 7/8 in some order
Hartley might be benched too apparently, George deserves a start (be it at hooker or inside centre )
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I'd like to see Watson at 15 or possibly Daly.
1. Mullen
2. George
3. Cole
4. Launchbury
5. Kruis
6. Itoje
7. Clifford
8. Billy
9. Care
10. Ford
11. Nowell
12. Farrell
13. JJ
14. Watson/Yarde
15. Daly/Watson
16. LCD 17. Hill 18. Genge 19. Lawes 20. Harrison 21. Youngs 22. Te'o 23. Yarde/Daly
Would be my stab.
1. Mullen
2. George
3. Cole
4. Launchbury
5. Kruis
6. Itoje
7. Clifford
8. Billy
9. Care
10. Ford
11. Nowell
12. Farrell
13. JJ
14. Watson/Yarde
15. Daly/Watson
16. LCD 17. Hill 18. Genge 19. Lawes 20. Harrison 21. Youngs 22. Te'o 23. Yarde/Daly
Would be my stab.
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Oh I thought him and Haskell had been ruled out
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Concussion I think Bam, has to do the protocol steps etc.
Hooper is a dirty bugger but nothing in that after seeing the other angle.
Hooper is a dirty bugger but nothing in that after seeing the other angle.
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Some real plusses this tour, Mako definitely got the no1 shirt now and can't see Marler getting that back off of him for a little while - Ford and Farrell is definitely the way forward, but think a fit and firing Tuilagi would make that partnership work more, as need someone to smash over the gainline (if he ever keeps fit!).
Our pack has really stepped up another level, amazing depth there and Jones did very well selecting Hartley as captain. All looking very promising!
Our pack has really stepped up another level, amazing depth there and Jones did very well selecting Hartley as captain. All looking very promising!
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I still think Mako is better off the bench .. just doesn't seem to have the same impact when starting, he's been solid but wouldn't say he's excelled
I'd love Tuilagi to get back fit, but he needs to play as much as possible for Leicester before the AIs, if he's missing games again I wouldn't be dropping Joseph for him
I'd love Tuilagi to get back fit, but he needs to play as much as possible for Leicester before the AIs, if he's missing games again I wouldn't be dropping Joseph for him
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Seen Mako getting ratings of 8 and 9s in the papers for his performances so far, last test over 14 tackles and tremendous work rate, plus got a lot more solid in the setpiece. Marler would need to pick up his performances a lot more to get back in, don't think he's played very well this year.
With Farrell at no12 I personally feel that Tuilagi is the best fit at no13 for both him and Ford as it gives them a guy to get us over the gainline and an easy option. If it was Farrell at no10 and someone like Teo'o at no12 then Joseph is best no13 - just think a fit and firing Tuilagi compliments Ford/Farrell more than Joseph does.
With Farrell at no12 I personally feel that Tuilagi is the best fit at no13 for both him and Ford as it gives them a guy to get us over the gainline and an easy option. If it was Farrell at no10 and someone like Teo'o at no12 then Joseph is best no13 - just think a fit and firing Tuilagi compliments Ford/Farrell more than Joseph does.
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