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Post by Sin é Thu 11 Aug 2016, 2:45 pm

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Boudjellal's Toulon vow to contest fine for breaking Top 14 salary cap
The RCT president reacted angrily to the decision against his club.


TOULON SAY THEY will contest a fine imposed on them by the Ligue Nationale de Rugby [LNR] for breaking the Top 14′s salary cap.

The French rugby governing body yesterday announced that the three-time European champions have been fined €100,000 for exceeding the €10 million salary cap during the 2014/15 season.

Mourad Boudjellal Toulon president Boudjellal is a controversial figure. Source: Inpho/Billy Stickland

The LNR’s revelation that Toulon would be punished came after an investigation launched by the Direction Nationale d’Aide et de Contrôle de Gestion [DNACG], French rugby’s financial watchdog.

Mourad Boudjellal’s Toulon have responded by issuing a statement in which they say the club “strongly contests” the decision. In fact, Toulon claim that they were not directly informed of the fine by the LNR or DNACG.

The decision is subject to appeal, and Toulon have indicated their intention to proceed with an appeal.

The DNACG’s investigation was carried out by Deloitte, who Boudjellal called into question in a fiery response to the fine, when speaking to L’Équipe. The RCT owner suggested that Toulon were the targets of a plot by Clermont, the LNR and Deloitte.

“[This decision] blames me, even though the best-paid French players in the Top 14 are Morgan Parra and Aurélien Rougerie, two Clermont players,” Boudjellal told L’Équipe.

“And then Deloitte was the statutory auditor in this case, you know. And they are people of Michelin [the company behind Clermont] paid by the league [LNR]. I’m 1000% sure of it.”

Boudjellal also threatened that Toulon would not take part in the opening round of the new Top 14 season in two weekends’ time if the matter was not resolved to his satisfaction.

“I do not see how Toulon can start the championship,” said Boudjellal.

http://www.the42.ie/toulon-salary-cap-top-14-fine-boudjellal-2922250-Aug2016/
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Post by marty2086 Fri 19 Aug 2016, 2:24 pm

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Then you can prove to us that one is more transparent than the other?

Yes, easily.

The companies running each AP team have their accounts in Companies House and contain full costs for that business.

We all know nothing comparable is on offer from the IRFU.

Thanks.

Yip nothing comparable

http://www.irishrugby.ie/images/content/ireland/IRFU_Annual_Report_2014_15.pdf

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Post by PhilBB Fri 19 Aug 2016, 2:24 pm

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They are? What countries are they? Rolling Eyes

Being in different countries does not mean differences in transparency

Really? Because you have yet to do it

And again with the name calling thumbsup

Well, one is in England and one is in Ireland. So they are in different countries.

It has been done to a satisfactory standard. That you refuse to believe it is your own issue.
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Post by PhilBB Fri 19 Aug 2016, 2:25 pm

marty2086 wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
Then you can prove to us that one is more transparent than the other?

Yes, easily.

The companies running each AP team have their accounts in Companies House and contain full costs for that business.

We all know nothing comparable is on offer from the IRFU.

Thanks.

Yip nothing comparable

http://www.irishrugby.ie/images/content/ireland/IRFU_Annual_Report_2014_15.pdf

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That doesn't split it by its four pro teams, as we know.

Each team versus a Union

Even you should be able to spot your error now.
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Post by marty2086 Fri 19 Aug 2016, 2:28 pm

PhilBB wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
Then you can prove to us that one is more transparent than the other?

Yes, easily.

The companies running each AP team have their accounts in Companies House and contain full costs for that business.

We all know nothing comparable is on offer from the IRFU.

Thanks.

Yip nothing comparable

http://www.irishrugby.ie/images/content/ireland/IRFU_Annual_Report_2014_15.pdf

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That doesn't split it by its four pro teams, as we know.

Each team versus a Union

Even you should be able to spot your error now.

Except you said the companies running the AP teams and you always argue that the IRFU do that

But either way you're still wrong

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Post by Guest Fri 19 Aug 2016, 2:28 pm

PhilBB wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
Then you can prove to us that one is more transparent than the other?

Yes, easily.

The companies running each AP team have their accounts in Companies House and contain full costs for that business.

We all know nothing comparable is on offer from the IRFU.

Thanks.

You and Dai like to refer to Companies House, and you both end with "Thanks". Must be catching ...

Why are you comparing AP with IRFU? It would be more relevant to compare WRU with IRFU, or the Regions with Provinces/AP.

Now, I'm not checking Companies House, so maybe you would like to provide something factual to prove that one Union is more transparent than the other, or any differences between the Regions and Provinces/AP?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Fri 19 Aug 2016, 2:56 pm

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So you'd want any cap to be at the upper limit of the Welsh clubs rather than any lower so as to not limit the Welsh.

I'd love it capped at the upper limit of the Welsh clubs, but what would the Irish and Scots do with the excess players they could no longer afford?

French and English clubs. Same as more of the Welsh.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Fri 19 Aug 2016, 2:57 pm

PhilBB wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:He used loophole. He won't say exactly what the loophole was which he believed occured.

A loophole. I believe it was a loophole. I don't know what the loophole was.

I'm sorry if you, too, are struggling with such basic English.

Which loophole do you believe it to be?

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