Glasgow Warriors v Ulster Rugby, 23 September

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Glasgow Warriors v Ulster Rugby
Friday 23 September 2016
KO 19:35
Scotstoun Stadium

Live on BBC NI

Referee: Ian Davies (WRU, 51st competition game)
Assistant Referees: Sean Brickell (WRU), Cammy Rudkin (SRU)
Citing Commissioner: Douglas Hunter (SRU)
TMO: Gareth Simmonds (WRU)

A. Head to Head

29 Played 29
14 Wins 14
14 Losses 14
1 Draws 1
545 Points 541

B. Form

25 March 2016
Glasgow Warriors 27-17 Ulster Rugby

12 February 2016
Ulster Rugby 13 - 10 Glasgow Warriors

22 May 2015
Glasgow Warriors 16 - 14 Ulster Rugby

16 May 2015
Glasgow Warriors 32 - 10 Ulster Rugby

C. Teams

Glasgow Warriors 

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Ulster Rugby

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RDW_Scotland wrote:Ulster have never won at Scotstoun...

Not at Scotstoun. We need you back at Firhill

Ah blame the Scotsman - that's where I stole that fact from!

Munchkin wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Ulster have never won at Scotstoun...

Not at Scotstoun. We need you back at Firhill

How dare you suggest that I am a Glasgwegien - permanent ban for you!!

RDW_Scotland wrote:

Munchkin wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Ulster have never won at Scotstoun...

Not at Scotstoun. We need you back at Firhill

How dare you suggest that I am a Glasgwegien - permanent ban for you!!

Sincere apologies

Have a piece of cake and a cup of tea on me

OK I'll let you off with a warning then.

Can you not tell from my class and sophistication that I am not one of the Great Unwashed?

I must say that I do like Henderson at 6. I have him down as a Lion next summer.

I think the Ulster pack will have too much for Glasgow, particularly with the injuries.

Hazel Sapling wrote:

Pete330v2 wrote:Ulster team and replacements:

15 J Payne
14 L Ludik
13 D Cave
12 S McCloskey
11 C Piutau
10 P Jackson
9 R Pienaar

1 A Warwick
2 R Herring (captain)
3 R Ah You
4 A O'Connor
5 F van der Merwe
6 I Henderson
7 S Reidy
8 R Wilson

Replacements (16-23): R Best, C Black, R Kane, P Browne, C Ross, P Marshall, S Olding, R Lyttle.

Ulster fans complaining about injuries and how hard up they are then they put out this team  

Two full backs on the wing, a centre at full back and our 4th choice at 13 playing, we're fooked

Hazel Sapling wrote:Glasgow Warriors team to play Ulster at Scotstoun Stadium, Friday 23 September (kick-off 7.35pm) – live on BBC Two Scotland:
15. Stuart Hogg
14. Leonardo Sarto
13. Mark Bennett
12. Alex Dunbar
11. Tommy Seymour
10. Finn Russell
9. Henry Pyrgos (Co-Captain)

1. Gordon Reid
2. Fraser Brown
3. Zander Fagerson
4. Greg Peterson
5. Jonny Gray (Co-Captain)
6. Tjiuee Uanivi
7. Lewis Wynne*
8. Ryan Wilson

Replacements

16. Pat MacArthur
17. Alex Allan
18. Sila Puafisi
19. Sam Thomson*
20. Matt Fagerson*
21. Ali Price
22. Nick Grigg
23. Rory Hughes

Not available due to injury: Adam Ashe (hip / foot), Scott Cummings (shoulder), Simone Favaro (shoulder), Jarrod Firth (knee), Chris Fusaro (knees), Ryan Grant (back), Rob Harley (knee), Peter Horne (hand), D’arcy Rae (back), Josh Strauss (head), Tim Swinson (ribs) and Richie Vernon (shoulder).

* BT Sport Scottish Rugby Academy Stage 3 Player

That backline gives us a chance but to have the lock and loosie bench cover being 2 Academy kids that I've never seen play is very bad news against Ulster. Big test for Greg/Oscar/Jeff's fitness.

Matt Fagerson is Zander's 18 year old brother, and is apparently an absolute unit.

Mike Blair said he looks like he's been working out in the gym for the last 10 years!

RDW_Scotland wrote:Matt Fagerson is Zander's 18 year old brother, and is apparently an absolute unit.

Mike Blair said he looks like he's been working out in the gym for the last 10 years!

Ahh but a massive unit does not guarantee success

Sam Thompson, the academy lock does seem to have a bit of pedigree, even though I had never heard of him before yesterday.

Went to uni in Worcester, then spent a year playing in NZ followed by a year in France with Perpignan Esposir team, so probably fair to say he has had some exposure to some decent rugby.

He also used to partner Johnny Gray in the second row at school.

Good luck to him, hope he gets his chance and takes it.

carpet baboon wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Matt Fagerson is Zander's 18 year old brother, and is apparently an absolute unit.

Mike Blair said he looks like he's been working out in the gym for the last 10 years!

Ahh but a massive unit does not guarantee success

For example Michelle McManus

The game is also on BBC2 Scotland

RDW_Scotland wrote:OK I'll let you off with a warning then.

Can you not tell from my class and sophistication that I am not one of the Great Unwashed?

Of course I can, 'twas just a momentary lapse in concentration. I have no doubt you change your socks daily

Heart says Ulster for the win, head says Glasgow. I'm not convinced Glasgow's backrow problems gives us a winning advantage, but we could sneak it. It's the second half that I'm concerned about. Weather permitting, we will probably start at a frantic pace and run out of steam in the second half. We really need to convert our opportunities into points, early on. We do have a strong bench though, and maybe that will make the difference.

As a Glasgow fan, my head says Ulster but my heart says Glasgow.

Both sides have explosive individuals that can change the match in an instant. Stuart Hogg and Charles Piutau have that incredible x-factor that we all come to watch so I hope that we see some of that.

We cannot discount the fact of Glasgow's near impeccable home record and the fact that with the new pitch the backs should be able to flourish.

Reading the weather app says that its 40% chance for rain from 7pm through till 9pm.

I can't wait for this one!

asoreleftshoulder wrote:So is this a sign that Payne is now staying at fullback?Great news for Ireland and frees up the centre spots for Ulster but Bowe,Timble and Gilroy will be discommoded.

If Payne didn't play there we would either need to have Olding in at 15 or Lyttle on the wing, there's a degree of defensive inexperience and positional weakness in both those options whereas Payne is usually a superb defender and organiser. Wouldn't know what this means if anything until those other back three players come back into the mix.

Hope Payne isn't too rusty. Good pack we have out, probably got a bit of an advantage up front on paper, but we certainly can't be as wasteful or error prone as we have been in the last two weeks. If we are, I'm nearly certain we will lose but if we do improve I think there are a lot of signs that we are building something a bit special so we could win.

Heart says Ulster and head is optimistic about the game after the way Jackson played last week, and the Glasgow injuries in the backrow nullifying their normal advantage there. OTOH the home side is obviously more familiar with the surface so that could work in the Warriors favour.

Ulster are considering a new artificial pitch at the Kings Pan, what's the home fans' verdict on the one at Scotstoun?

The Great Aukster wrote:Heart says Ulster and head is optimistic about the game after the way Jackson played last week, and the Glasgow injuries in the backrow nullifying their normal advantage there. OTOH the home side is obviously more familiar with the surface so that could work in the Warriors favour.

Ulster are considering a new artificial pitch at the Kings Pan, what's the home fans' verdict on the one at Scotstoun?

It's a massive improvement on what we had. It suits our game really well as it makes the game a lot faster and we base our game on speed, offloading and superior fitness. I heard Tim Swinson say it's tough to play on fitness wise but that works for us.

This is going to be a tough game for Glasgow. Even if we don't factor in the injuries. I think we will struggle up front and if we can't control the breakdown we won't get fast ball. Which will nullify our back line.

Ulster by 10

alexgmacdonald wrote:As a Glasgow fan, my head says Ulster but my heart says Glasgow.

Both sides have explosive individuals that can change the match in an instant. Stuart Hogg and Charles Piutau have that incredible x-factor that we all come to watch so I hope that we see some of that.

We cannot discount the fact of Glasgow's near impeccable home record and the fact that with the new pitch the backs should be able to flourish.

Reading the weather app says that its 40% chance for rain from 7pm through till 9pm.

I can't wait for this one!

Hopefully it's dry during the game, even if a forwards battle will probably give us an advantage due to Glasgow's injury list. I'm expecting Ulster to have the advantage at the breakdown. Hopefully I won't be disappointed

Forgot about your new pitch. That will make a big difference, even if the ball is a bit slippy. I'm expecting fireworks from the two backlines!

The pressure is on Glasgow, being a home game, but a win for Ulster would be massive.

alexgmacdonald wrote:

The Great Aukster wrote:Heart says Ulster and head is optimistic about the game after the way Jackson played last week, and the Glasgow injuries in the backrow nullifying their normal advantage there. OTOH the home side is obviously more familiar with the surface so that could work in the Warriors favour.

Ulster are considering a new artificial pitch at the Kings Pan, what's the home fans' verdict on the one at Scotstoun?

It's a massive improvement on what we had. It suits our game really well as it makes the game a lot faster and we base our game on speed, offloading and superior fitness. I heard Tim Swinson say it's tough to play on fitness wise but that works for us.

What about the injury factor - do you think it has gone up or down?

The Great Aukster wrote:

alexgmacdonald wrote:

The Great Aukster wrote:Heart says Ulster and head is optimistic about the game after the way Jackson played last week, and the Glasgow injuries in the backrow nullifying their normal advantage there. OTOH the home side is obviously more familiar with the surface so that could work in the Warriors favour.

Ulster are considering a new artificial pitch at the Kings Pan, what's the home fans' verdict on the one at Scotstoun?

It's a massive improvement on what we had. It suits our game really well as it makes the game a lot faster and we base our game on speed, offloading and superior fitness. I heard Tim Swinson say it's tough to play on fitness wise but that works for us.

What about the injury factor - do you think it has gone up or down?

It's hard to tell after only one game on the surface. So I'm not really sure, maybe one of the other guys will know better

Munchkin wrote:

alexgmacdonald wrote:As a Glasgow fan, my head says Ulster but my heart says Glasgow.

Both sides have explosive individuals that can change the match in an instant. Stuart Hogg and Charles Piutau have that incredible x-factor that we all come to watch so I hope that we see some of that.

We cannot discount the fact of Glasgow's near impeccable home record and the fact that with the new pitch the backs should be able to flourish.

Reading the weather app says that its 40% chance for rain from 7pm through till 9pm.

I can't wait for this one!

Hopefully it's dry during the game, even if a forwards battle will probably give us an advantage due to Glasgow's injury list. I'm expecting Ulster to have the advantage at the breakdown. Hopefully I won't be disappointed

Forgot about your new pitch. That will make a big difference, even if the ball is a bit slippy. I'm expecting fireworks from the two backlines!

The pressure is on Glasgow, being a home game, but a win for Ulster would be massive.

I hope so too, I find every season that Ulster are some of our toughest games. I would agree that Ulster have the breakdown advantage. We might see Glasgow have to resort to a counter attacking game but with one of the best counter attacking back 3's in the league (Seymour, Hogg, Sarto) and Mark Bennett who is a brilliant broken field runner. That could be our best chance.

I think if Glasgow are to win this they need to be ahead on the 50th minute by at least 6 points. The bench just isn't strong enough and I fear Ulster could exploit that with Piennar - do any Ulster supporters know what's going on with his contract?

Will be great to see Russell getting a game after that injury.

Nematode wrote:I think if Glasgow are to win this they need to be ahead on the 50th minute by at least 6 points. The bench just isn't strong enough and I fear Ulster could exploit that with Piennar - do any Ulster supporters know what's going on with his contract?

Will be great to see Russell getting a game after that injury.

I hear he might be off to Edinburgh

Nematode wrote:I think if Glasgow are to win this they need to be ahead on the 50th 80thminute by at least 6 points 1 point.
Will be great to see Russell getting a game after that injury.

Tidier now.

From a Glasgow point of view: a very strong front five with a mobile front row in reserve and hopefully young Thompson will have something about him. Apparently he and Jonny Gray were the second rows for their school team! The backs for Glasgow are probably the best we can put out, if they get their hands on the ball they'll score. The back row could be a wondrous thing to witness. Despite what the Luvvies say about his unfitness for international rugby Batman has always looked a very good no8 for the Warriors. Wynne has stepped up and looks like he wants that jersey permanently. Shooie is a big lump who should "do a job". At 6 his carrying can't be any worse than the Giant Red Crayon's.
From an Ulster point of view: ( pardon my brevity) henry could be the outstanding back- rower on the pitch. The rest of the pack is solid and will battle for every inch. However the backs have a re-arranged, makeshift look to them and if Dunbar and Bennett are anywhere near their best form it could be a mismatch.

So, heart says Glasgow. Head says fecc knows.

McArthur out and Corey Flynn onto the bench

Great line from Payne

Balls

What was Henderson thinking? Totally unnecessary.

Yaaaay!!

Glasgow are utter sh!te tonight

Charlie P is ficking awesome

He has made some quality players in that Glasgow back three look a bit silly on a couple of occasions.

Damn

Ludik is a rock.

clivemcl wrote:What was Henderson thinking? Totally unnecessary.

Love the aggression but he really needs to watch the discipline. Cost us that Try. In fact, two Try's ( one against)

Looks like a dislocated shoulder.

Last time I checked elbowing people in the head was a red card not play on like nothing happened

G'WAN Rodney!

Jesus Glasgow are running out of players

Harsh!

Are you F'ing serious

Ref looking for excuses to rule out Ulsters trys

Seriously rules that out and a Glasgow had a guy elbow one of our players in the head twice and not a thing given

Ian Davies has lost it.

Did he just ignore what looked like a hand to Roger Wilsons face too?

I can understand the first try being disallowed. The second one? That's harsh as fick

No arms in that tackle whatsover.