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Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors
Saturday 5 November 2016
KO 19:35
Parc y Scarlets
Live on SC4 and BBC Alba
Referee: Gary Conway (IRFU, 25th competition game)
Assistant Referees: David Wilkinson (IRFU) Neil Jones (WRU)
Citing Commissioner: Aurwell Morgan (WRU)
TMO: Olly Hodges (IRFU)
A. Head to Head
26 Played 26
12 Wins 14
14 Losses 12
0 Draws 0
529 Points 598
B. Form
18th April 2016
Scarlets 10-46 Glasgow Warriors
19th December 2015
Scarlets 6 - 9 Glasgow Warriors
12th December 2015
Glasgow Warriors 43 - 6 Scarlets
5th September 2015
Glasgow Warriors 10 - 16 Scarlets
9th January 2015
Glasgow Warriors 22 - 7 Scarlets
21st November 2014
Scarlets 19 - 9 Glasgow Warriors
C. Teams
Scarlets
15 Aled Thomas
14 DTH van der Merwe
13 Steff Hughes
12 Hadleigh Parkes [c]
11 Steff Evans
10 Rhys Patchell
9 Jonathan Evans
1 Wyn Jones
2 Ryan Elias
3 Werner Kruger
4 Tom Price
5 David Bulbring
6 Aaron Shingler
7 Will Boyde
8 John Barclay
16. Emyr Phillips
17. Dylan Evans
18. Peter Edwards
19. Lewis Rawlins
20. James Davies
21. Aled Davies
22. Dan Jones
23. Gareth Owen
Glasgow Warriors
15. Peter Murchie (105)
14. Lee Jones (38)
13. Mark Bennett (56)
12. Sam Johnson (16)
11. Rory Hughes (22)
10. Peter Horne (104) [CC]
9. Ali Price (29)
1. Djustice Sears-Duru (3)
2. Pat MacArthur (141)
3. Sila Puafisi (29)
4. Tim Swinson (83)
5. Brian Alainu’uese (1)
6. Rob Harley (144)
7. Simone Favaro (23) [CC]
8. Lewis Wynne (8)
16. Corey Flynn (4)
17. Jamie Bhatti (0)
18. D’arcy Rae (10)
19. Matt Fagerson (4)
20. Langilangi Haupeakui (1)
21. Grayson Hart (26)
22. Rory Clegg (10)
23. Nick Grigg (5)
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Liam Williams vs Stuart Hogg, for the title of the most World Class fullback to have graced the game, ever.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Apart from the fact that neither of them will be playing this game...
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
RDW_Scotland wrote:Apart from the fact that neither of them will be playing this game...
Their presence will still be felt, such is the measure of these men.
Still, you make a good point.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
What's player availability like for Glasgow? The Scarlets team should be very similar to the one that played against (and beat) Cardiff. It appears that the Irish are having some players released back to them again, is this the case for the Scots?
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
I suspect Glasgow will definitely be without
Reid, Brown, Fagerson, Gray, Strauss, Pyrgos, Russell, Dunbar, Bennett, Seymour, Hogg
With Harley, Swinson and Horne potentially released back - Harley and Swinson as they may not be involved against Australia and Horne needs gametime having just come back from injury.
Reid, Brown, Fagerson, Gray, Strauss, Pyrgos, Russell, Dunbar, Bennett, Seymour, Hogg
With Harley, Swinson and Horne potentially released back - Harley and Swinson as they may not be involved against Australia and Horne needs gametime having just come back from injury.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Glasgow will likely get a few players back, but not that many. Players who are not likely to be in the squad for the Australia game, or who may bench and could use some game time. There are those who are just training with the squad as well.
Horne definitely needs some game time, but unfortunately got a head knock when he game on against Treviso, so that may or may not keep him out in any case.
Hughes, Grigg and Price, who are training with the squad will come back for sure.
One or both of Swinson and Harley, who are less likely to be in the match day squad may come back and maybe one of the centres, most likely Bennett, that may depend on how fit Taylor is.
I think our team may look something like
Allen
McArthur
Pulifisi
Big Brian
Swinson
Favaro
Wynn
Harley
Price
Horne (this one is tricky, as he and Clegg may be injured)
Sarto
Johnson
Gregg
Hughes
Murchie
The bench will be whoever is left standing!
That is actually not a bad team if they can get them onto the pitch. The FH spot is the big worry if neither of the two named above are fit, then I am not sure where we go. We have that other guy who came over from NZ as well, but he has been nowhere near the squad and may well be injured as well. This could be a big problem.
Horne definitely needs some game time, but unfortunately got a head knock when he game on against Treviso, so that may or may not keep him out in any case.
Hughes, Grigg and Price, who are training with the squad will come back for sure.
One or both of Swinson and Harley, who are less likely to be in the match day squad may come back and maybe one of the centres, most likely Bennett, that may depend on how fit Taylor is.
I think our team may look something like
Allen
McArthur
Pulifisi
Big Brian
Swinson
Favaro
Wynn
Harley
Price
Horne (this one is tricky, as he and Clegg may be injured)
Sarto
Johnson
Gregg
Hughes
Murchie
The bench will be whoever is left standing!
That is actually not a bad team if they can get them onto the pitch. The FH spot is the big worry if neither of the two named above are fit, then I am not sure where we go. We have that other guy who came over from NZ as well, but he has been nowhere near the squad and may well be injured as well. This could be a big problem.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Big Brian and Tiny Tim Swinson will be an interesting lock combination. Their respective body positions will be hilarious!
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Not that many world class players on display then, especially with NH top full-back (Liam Williams).
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
funnyExiledScot wrote:Big Brian and Tiny Tim Swinson will be an interesting lock combination. Their respective body positions will be hilarious!
I'm not sure how the number 8 will be able to bind in the scrums given there is a 4 inch difference between between where each shoulder will be pushing!
Is this not a problem that Ireland often find themselves in given how feckin huge Devon Toner is?
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mikey_dragon wrote:Not that many world class players on display then, especially with NH top full-back (Liam Williams).
Just the NH? It's not like you Welshies to underrate your players in such a way.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
funnyExiledScot wrote:mikey_dragon wrote:Not that many world class players on display then, especially with NH top full-back (Liam Williams).
Just the NH? It's not like you Welshies to underrate your players in such a way.
Now that you mention it, Liam is a bit underrated. Who's better in the SH? Nobody as far as I can see!
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Topic for discussion:mikey_dragon wrote:funnyExiledScot wrote:mikey_dragon wrote:Not that many world class players on display then, especially with NH top full-back (Liam Williams).
Just the NH? It's not like you Welshies to underrate your players in such a way.
Now that you mention it, Liam is a bit underrated. Who's better in the SH? Nobody as far as I can see!
Who of these four Joneses has done more of note in the Principality of Wales?
1. Tom
2. Alun-Wyn
3. Jim
4. Lee
Aaaaand... Go.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
You chose an American cult leader famous for orchestrating a mass murder suicide over Catherine Zeta?IanBru wrote:Topic for discussion:mikey_dragon wrote:funnyExiledScot wrote:mikey_dragon wrote:Not that many world class players on display then, especially with NH top full-back (Liam Williams).
Just the NH? It's not like you Welshies to underrate your players in such a way.
Now that you mention it, Liam is a bit underrated. Who's better in the SH? Nobody as far as I can see!
Who of these four Joneses has done more of note in the Principality of Wales?
1. Tom
2. Alun-Wyn
3. Jim
4. Lee
Aaaaand... Go.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
I saw 'Entrapment' and 'Oceans 12'. Believe me, I knew what I was doing.George Carlin wrote:You chose an American cult leader famous for orchestrating a mass murder suicide over Catherine Zeta?IanBru wrote:Topic for discussion:mikey_dragon wrote:funnyExiledScot wrote:mikey_dragon wrote:Not that many world class players on display then, especially with NH top full-back (Liam Williams).
Just the NH? It's not like you Welshies to underrate your players in such a way.
Now that you mention it, Liam is a bit underrated. Who's better in the SH? Nobody as far as I can see!
Who of these four Joneses has done more of note in the Principality of Wales?
1. Tom
2. Alun-Wyn
3. Jim
4. Lee
Aaaaand... Go.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Rickie Lee Jones or Tommy Lee Jones?
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Teams are up in this obviously hotly-anticipated fixture...
Glasgow:
15. Peter Murchie (105)
14. Lee Jones (38)
13. Mark Bennett (56)
12. Sam Johnson (16)
11. Rory Hughes (22)
10. Peter Horne (104) [CC]
9. Ali Price (29)
1. Djustice Sears-Duru (3)
2. Pat MacArthur (141)
3. Sila Puafisi (29)
4. Tim Swinson (83)
5. Brian Alainu’uese (1)
6. Rob Harley (144)
7. Simone Favaro (23) [CC]
8. Lewis Wynne (8)
Replacements
16. Corey Flynn (4)
17. Jamie Bhatti (0)
18. D’arcy Rae (10)
19. Matt Fagerson (4)
20. Langilangi Haupeakui (1)
21. Grayson Hart (26)
22. Rory Clegg (10)
23. Nick Grigg (5)
Scarlets:
15 Aled Thomas
14 DTH van der Merwe
13 Steff Hughes
12 Hadleigh Parkes [c]
11 Steff Evans
10 Rhys Patchell
9 Jonathan Evans
1 Wyn Jones
2 Ryan Elias
3 Werner Kruger
4 Tom Price
5 David Bulbring
6 Aaron Shingler
7 Will Boyde
8 John Barclay
16. Emyr Phillips
17. Dylan Evans
18. Peter Edwards
19. Lewis Rawlins
20. James Davies
21. Aled Davies
22. Dan Jones
23. Gareth Owen
Glasgow:
15. Peter Murchie (105)
14. Lee Jones (38)
13. Mark Bennett (56)
12. Sam Johnson (16)
11. Rory Hughes (22)
10. Peter Horne (104) [CC]
9. Ali Price (29)
1. Djustice Sears-Duru (3)
2. Pat MacArthur (141)
3. Sila Puafisi (29)
4. Tim Swinson (83)
5. Brian Alainu’uese (1)
6. Rob Harley (144)
7. Simone Favaro (23) [CC]
8. Lewis Wynne (8)
Replacements
16. Corey Flynn (4)
17. Jamie Bhatti (0)
18. D’arcy Rae (10)
19. Matt Fagerson (4)
20. Langilangi Haupeakui (1)
21. Grayson Hart (26)
22. Rory Clegg (10)
23. Nick Grigg (5)
Scarlets:
15 Aled Thomas
14 DTH van der Merwe
13 Steff Hughes
12 Hadleigh Parkes [c]
11 Steff Evans
10 Rhys Patchell
9 Jonathan Evans
1 Wyn Jones
2 Ryan Elias
3 Werner Kruger
4 Tom Price
5 David Bulbring
6 Aaron Shingler
7 Will Boyde
8 John Barclay
16. Emyr Phillips
17. Dylan Evans
18. Peter Edwards
19. Lewis Rawlins
20. James Davies
21. Aled Davies
22. Dan Jones
23. Gareth Owen
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Had a quick peak on the Scarlet's forum and there's no shortage of confidence. Regardless I'm going for a Glasgow win but with no bonus point.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
I can't see anything but a Scarlets win. Quite a "weak" team.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Not a bad Glasgow team, but certainly not great. I'm most interested to see how Puafisi and Sears-Duru get on up front - that is a very large propping combo. I'm hopeful that the big Canadian can be moulded into a pretty decent player, I thought he showed up well in the last WC.
Hughes has been playing well, so good that he gets a continued run. Should be a close game, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Scarlets sneak it.
Hughes has been playing well, so good that he gets a continued run. Should be a close game, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Scarlets sneak it.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Stronger Glasgow side than I expected to be honest. But the Scarlets generally do well when Wales get a thumping, to lift the spirits of West Walians, so I think it could well be a Scarlets win.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Scarlets giving away 32kg in the pack, hope we can avoid to many scrums.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
DTH and Barclay playing against us.
It's just Wrong. Wrong, I tell you.
It's just Wrong. Wrong, I tell you.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Yes, that is a properly huge Glasgow boiler room.
Funny even to compare the two locks:
Big Brian Alainu’uese - 6ft 8in, 135kg
Tiny Tim Swinson - 6ft 4in, 112kg
Funny even to compare the two locks:
Big Brian Alainu’uese - 6ft 8in, 135kg
Tiny Tim Swinson - 6ft 4in, 112kg
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George Carlin wrote:Yes, that is a properly huge Glasgow boiler room.
Funny even to compare the two locks:
Big Brian Alainu’uese - 6ft 8in, 135kg
Tiny Tim Swinson - 6ft 4in, 112kg
Add the 2 Scarlets Locks and it shows just how big Brian Alainu'uese is.
David Bullbring - 6'6" and 113kg
Tom Price - 6'8" and 115kg
Incidentally "Tiny Tim Swinson" is listed at 117kg on Wikipedia which would would have him as heavier than both our boys!
I think it could be a long game for our front 5 if Glasgow manage to utilise that extra weight.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Just looking again.
That is a surprisingly decent Glasgow team in the circumstances. Normally we are absolutely decimated come AI time. Admittedly a lot of that is down to the fact that Swinson and Bennett really should be in the Scotland squad right now. I understand if we are trying Huw Jones instead of Bennett, but Porcelain Gilchrist has done nothing to suggest he should leapfrog Tiny.
That is a surprisingly decent Glasgow team in the circumstances. Normally we are absolutely decimated come AI time. Admittedly a lot of that is down to the fact that Swinson and Bennett really should be in the Scotland squad right now. I understand if we are trying Huw Jones instead of Bennett, but Porcelain Gilchrist has done nothing to suggest he should leapfrog Tiny.
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
7-0 Scarlets
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Glasgow do look like a bunch of strangers and Horne is lying really deep. Glasgow are dominating territory and possession tho
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scarlets seem to have adopted the "Jim Jeffries" off side line '-)
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Glasgow camped on the line, Starlets give away multiple pens, Yellow card, glasgow bollox the next maul
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Scarlets really trying the refs patience here. gonna be another yellow unless they clear the ruck area quicker. Glasgow miss another pen! 7-3
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Re: Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors, 5 November
Glasgow looking as if they could play all weekend and not score a try. Very Scotland like
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14-3 Scarlets
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27-3 Scarlets. I think I'll stop following the live feed now.
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Glasgow need to sort their discipline.
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27-3. If only we could be a bit more like Edinburgh...
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Has someone swapped the shirts over - 'cos that was
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Dreadful. And on the other side, the Paddy's beat the All Blacks.
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ScarletSpiderman wrote:Stronger Glasgow side than I expected to be honest. But the Scarlets generally do well when Wales get a thumping, to lift the spirits of West Walians, so I think it could well be a Scarlets win.
Depressingly prescient.
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Sounds like Boyde showed up well again, is he a 7 or an 8?
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mikey_dragon wrote:Sounds like Boyde showed up well again, is he a 7 or an 8?
I think he is naturally an openside. However, he did really well at 8.
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