Aviva Prem Round 10
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Aviva Prem Round 10
Sorry im no LT so you get the bare minimum!
Sale Sharks v Exeter Chiefs
Bath v Saracens
Gloucester Rugby v Bristol
Leicester Tigers v Northampton Saints
Newcastle Falcons v Harlequins
Worcester Warriors v Wasps
Sale Sharks v Exeter Chiefs
Bath v Saracens
Gloucester Rugby v Bristol
Leicester Tigers v Northampton Saints
Newcastle Falcons v Harlequins
Worcester Warriors v Wasps
Geordie- Posts : 28896
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I'm going all home wins apart from at Sixways where Wasps will tear Worcester a new one.
Ozzy3213- Moderator
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Ozzy3213 wrote:I'm going all home wins apart from at Sixways where Wasps will tear Worcester a new one.
That'd be good. If Bath could draw at Sarries that would be more beneficial.
Two coaches who are a touch under fire at WR on Saturday evening. It might be a little bit more uncomfortable for one of them should the result be not in keeping with their supporters expectations.
formerly known as Sam- Posts : 21334
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I think Mallinder is big time under pressure. I personally think he's taken them as far as he can.
And im thinking the same about Cockerill....
And im thinking the same about Cockerill....
Geordie- Posts : 28896
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Maybe they should swap?!
Away wins for wasps and Saracens I think, home wins for the rest.
Away wins for wasps and Saracens I think, home wins for the rest.
Bathman_in_London- Posts : 2266
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Poor effort GF!
Should be an interesting one at Welford Rd with both teams not looking great this season, has to be a Tigers win though surely?
Big game for us, couLd see us basically being safe with another 4pts. Quins are ravaged with call-ups, us with injuries.....lets turn up lads!
Should be an interesting one at Welford Rd with both teams not looking great this season, has to be a Tigers win though surely?
Big game for us, couLd see us basically being safe with another 4pts. Quins are ravaged with call-ups, us with injuries.....lets turn up lads!
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https://mobile.twitter.com/LeicesterTigers/status/804656065996591105/photo/1
formerly known as Sam- Posts : 21334
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Hmm that didn't seem to work.
Mulipola, Youngs.Bateman
Slater, Kitchener
Fitzgerald, Hamilton, O'Connor
Kitto, Burns
Williams, Betham
Brady, Worth, Thompstone
Bench; Thacker, Genge, Cilliers, McCaffery, Evans, Harrison, Manu, JPP.
Lots of firepower on the bench. Not sure why Kitto is starting.
Mulipola, Youngs.Bateman
Slater, Kitchener
Fitzgerald, Hamilton, O'Connor
Kitto, Burns
Williams, Betham
Brady, Worth, Thompstone
Bench; Thacker, Genge, Cilliers, McCaffery, Evans, Harrison, Manu, JPP.
Lots of firepower on the bench. Not sure why Kitto is starting.
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NORTHAMPTON SAINTS TEAM TO PLAY TIGERS
Aviva Premiership Rugby R11
Welford Road
Saturday, December 3rd, 2016
Kick off 5pm
Live on BT Sport 2
15 Ben Foden (capt)
14 Jamie Elliott
13 Luther Burrell
12 JJ Hanrahan
11 George North
10 Stephen Myler
9 Tom Kessell
1 Alex Waller
2 Mikey Haywood
3 Paul Hill
4 Michael Paterson
5 James Craig
6 Jamie Gibson
7 Ben Nutley
8 Louis Picamoles
16 Charlie Clare
17 Ethan Waller
18 Gareth Denman
19 Api Ratuniyarawa
20 Lewis Ludlam
21 Nic Groom
22 George Pisi
23 Ken Pisi
Aviva Premiership Rugby R11
Welford Road
Saturday, December 3rd, 2016
Kick off 5pm
Live on BT Sport 2
15 Ben Foden (capt)
14 Jamie Elliott
13 Luther Burrell
12 JJ Hanrahan
11 George North
10 Stephen Myler
9 Tom Kessell
1 Alex Waller
2 Mikey Haywood
3 Paul Hill
4 Michael Paterson
5 James Craig
6 Jamie Gibson
7 Ben Nutley
8 Louis Picamoles
16 Charlie Clare
17 Ethan Waller
18 Gareth Denman
19 Api Ratuniyarawa
20 Lewis Ludlam
21 Nic Groom
22 George Pisi
23 Ken Pisi
LondonTiger- Moderator
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Picamoles and North are huge returnees for Saints. Tigers porous defence has been better in recent weeks but those guys will give it a stern test. Not sure about our scrum capabilities either as Bateman is only ever steady and Logo really struggled against Glasgow when the opposition tighthead started driving in.
Bets on another 50m winner from Thacker?
Bets on another 50m winner from Thacker?
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Poor effort GF!
Sorry dude...
d- Must do better!
Geordie- Posts : 28896
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Newcastle Falcons team to face Harlequins (Sunday, 3pm, Kingston Park Stadium)
15 Mike Delany
14 Vereniki Goneva
13 Fred Burdon
12 Juan Pablo Socino
11 Alex Tait
10 Joel Hodgson
9 Michael Young
1 Rob Vickers
2 Scott Lawson
3 David Wilson
4 Evan Olmstead
5 Will Witty
6 Callum Chick
7 Mark Wilson (captain)
8 Ally Hogg
Replacements
16 Ben Sowrey
17 Alex Rogers
18 Jon Welsh
19 Opeti Fonua
20 Nick Civetta
21 Sonatane Takulua
22 Marcus Watson
23 Dominic Waldouck
15 Mike Delany
14 Vereniki Goneva
13 Fred Burdon
12 Juan Pablo Socino
11 Alex Tait
10 Joel Hodgson
9 Michael Young
1 Rob Vickers
2 Scott Lawson
3 David Wilson
4 Evan Olmstead
5 Will Witty
6 Callum Chick
7 Mark Wilson (captain)
8 Ally Hogg
Replacements
16 Ben Sowrey
17 Alex Rogers
18 Jon Welsh
19 Opeti Fonua
20 Nick Civetta
21 Sonatane Takulua
22 Marcus Watson
23 Dominic Waldouck
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Harlequins team
15 Aaron Morris
14 Alofa Alofa
13 Joe Marchant
12 Jamie Roberts
11 Tim Visser
10 Tim Swiel
9 Karl Dickson
1 Mark Lambert
2 Rob Buchanan
3 Will Collier
4 Charlie Matthews
5 James Horwill (captain)
6 James Chisholm
7 Luke Wallace
8 Jack Clifford
Replacements
16 Dave Ward
17 Owen Evans
18 Adam Jones
19 George Merrick
20 George Naoupu
21 Charlie Mulchrone
22 Ruaridh Jackson
23 Charlie Walker
15 Aaron Morris
14 Alofa Alofa
13 Joe Marchant
12 Jamie Roberts
11 Tim Visser
10 Tim Swiel
9 Karl Dickson
1 Mark Lambert
2 Rob Buchanan
3 Will Collier
4 Charlie Matthews
5 James Horwill (captain)
6 James Chisholm
7 Luke Wallace
8 Jack Clifford
Replacements
16 Dave Ward
17 Owen Evans
18 Adam Jones
19 George Merrick
20 George Naoupu
21 Charlie Mulchrone
22 Ruaridh Jackson
23 Charlie Walker
Geordie- Posts : 28896
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Bath:
Homer; Rokoduguni, Clark, Tapuai, Brew; Bowden, Fotuali'i; Catt, Dunn, Lahiff, Charteris, Attwood, Garvey (capt), Ellis, Faletau.
Replacements: Batty, Obano, Palma-Newport, Grant, Mercer, Allinson, Hastings, Wilson.
Saracens:
Goode; Maitland, Tompkins, Barritt (capt), Wyles; Lozowski, Spencer; Lamositele, Brits, Figallo, Itoje, Hamilton, Rhodes, Burger, Wray.
Replacements: Saunders, Barrington, Koch, Flanagan, Brown, Wigglesworth, Bosch, Earle.
Homer; Rokoduguni, Clark, Tapuai, Brew; Bowden, Fotuali'i; Catt, Dunn, Lahiff, Charteris, Attwood, Garvey (capt), Ellis, Faletau.
Replacements: Batty, Obano, Palma-Newport, Grant, Mercer, Allinson, Hastings, Wilson.
Saracens:
Goode; Maitland, Tompkins, Barritt (capt), Wyles; Lozowski, Spencer; Lamositele, Brits, Figallo, Itoje, Hamilton, Rhodes, Burger, Wray.
Replacements: Saunders, Barrington, Koch, Flanagan, Brown, Wigglesworth, Bosch, Earle.
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looking at the teams, Worc could beat Wasps. They are missing loads of players.
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Very true. Worcester know they need the win as well, as they've been on the wrong end of a few results recently.
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Wasps:
Miller; Halai, Macken, Leiua, Bassett; Cipriani, Robson; Mullan (capt), Taylor, Moore, Gaskell, Myall, Johnson, Young, Rieder.
Replacements: Willis, Harris, Swainston, Rowlands, Thompson, Simpson, Armitage, O'Conor.
Worcester Warriors:
Pennell; Heem, Olivier, Willison, Vuna; Shillcock, Arr; Rapava Ruskin, Bregvadze, Schonert, O'Callaghan, Barry, Potgieter (capt), Lewis, Faosiliva.
Replacements: Singleton, Leleimalefaga, Johnston, Kitchener, Dowson, Dowsett, Braid, Adams.
Miller; Halai, Macken, Leiua, Bassett; Cipriani, Robson; Mullan (capt), Taylor, Moore, Gaskell, Myall, Johnson, Young, Rieder.
Replacements: Willis, Harris, Swainston, Rowlands, Thompson, Simpson, Armitage, O'Conor.
Worcester Warriors:
Pennell; Heem, Olivier, Willison, Vuna; Shillcock, Arr; Rapava Ruskin, Bregvadze, Schonert, O'Callaghan, Barry, Potgieter (capt), Lewis, Faosiliva.
Replacements: Singleton, Leleimalefaga, Johnston, Kitchener, Dowson, Dowsett, Braid, Adams.
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Gloucester Rugby:
15. James Hook; 14. Charlie Sharples, 13. Matt Scott, 12. Mark Atkinson, 11. Henry Purdy; 10. Billy Burns, 9. Willi Heinz (capt); 1. Paddy McAllister, 2. Richard Hibbard, 3. John Afoa; 4. Tom Savage, 5. Mariano Galarza; 6. Lewis Ludlow, 7. Jacob Rowan, 8. Ben Morgan
Replacements:
16. Tom Lindsay, 17. Josh Hohneck, 18. Paul Doran-Jones, 19. Joe Latta, 20. Ross Moriarty, 21. Greig Laidlaw, 22. Billy Twelvetrees, 23. Ollie Thorley
Bristol Rugby:
15. Jason Woodward; 14. Ryan Edwards, 13. Jack Tovey, 12. Will Hurrell, 11. Jack Wallace; 10. Adrian Jarvis, 9. Rhodri Williams; 1. Kyle Traynor, 2. Rob Hawkins, 3. Gaston Cortes, 4. Jon Fisher, 5. Mark Sorenson, 6. Mitch Eadie, 7. Olly Robinson, 8. Jordan Crane (c).
Replacements: 16. Marc Jones, 17. Ryan Bevington, 18. Jamal Ford-Robinson, 19. James Phillips, 20. Nick Fenton-Wells, 21. Will Cliff, 22. Billy Searle, 23. Luke Arscott.
15. James Hook; 14. Charlie Sharples, 13. Matt Scott, 12. Mark Atkinson, 11. Henry Purdy; 10. Billy Burns, 9. Willi Heinz (capt); 1. Paddy McAllister, 2. Richard Hibbard, 3. John Afoa; 4. Tom Savage, 5. Mariano Galarza; 6. Lewis Ludlow, 7. Jacob Rowan, 8. Ben Morgan
Replacements:
16. Tom Lindsay, 17. Josh Hohneck, 18. Paul Doran-Jones, 19. Joe Latta, 20. Ross Moriarty, 21. Greig Laidlaw, 22. Billy Twelvetrees, 23. Ollie Thorley
Bristol Rugby:
15. Jason Woodward; 14. Ryan Edwards, 13. Jack Tovey, 12. Will Hurrell, 11. Jack Wallace; 10. Adrian Jarvis, 9. Rhodri Williams; 1. Kyle Traynor, 2. Rob Hawkins, 3. Gaston Cortes, 4. Jon Fisher, 5. Mark Sorenson, 6. Mitch Eadie, 7. Olly Robinson, 8. Jordan Crane (c).
Replacements: 16. Marc Jones, 17. Ryan Bevington, 18. Jamal Ford-Robinson, 19. James Phillips, 20. Nick Fenton-Wells, 21. Will Cliff, 22. Billy Searle, 23. Luke Arscott.
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Wasps look strong enough in the front 5 and half backs to take this .. famous last words
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I wouldn't want to be a Bath fan this weekend. I can see Sarries really putting the boot in.
Wasps look pretty strong considering the players they are missing.
Wasps look pretty strong considering the players they are missing.
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Agreed. Can't see past a typical sarries strangling bullish efficient win
Bathite- Posts : 8468
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Sam I am not as confident as you, Bath have quite a few injuries but still some good players that could change the game in their favour like Roko,Charteris,Garvey,fotuali and Faletau.
Bath aren't 2nd in the league by fluke. Also they are at home.
Still I think Saracens will win but not by much.
Bath aren't 2nd in the league by fluke. Also they are at home.
Still I think Saracens will win but not by much.
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beshocked wrote:Sam I am not as confident as you, Bath have quite a few injuries but still some good players that could change the game in their favour like Roko,Charteris,Garvey,fotuali and Faletau.
Bath aren't 2nd in the league by fluke. Also they are at home.
Still I think Saracens will win but not by much.
Bowden is a good 12 he's not a good 10. His tactical kicking is nearly non existent. Pressure Bowden and Sarries will be pushing Bath back and getting turnovers.
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What Sam said! Bowden at ten is the massive weakness. A brand new 9 10 12 partnership again which won't help against the well oiled sarries machine. Banahan out for three months is a huge loss - he has been our best player for 18m and we will miss his leadership and example. So frustrating that we have both Priestland and ford but have never been able to have a time where we can play one in the others absence due to ints and injury
Beshocked - fixtures have flattered us so far. Saints away was the battle of who was slightly less awful, Exeter away we got lucky at the end. Tigers gave us a lesson at their place. I haven't seen the quins game yet.
In summary, not sure we've won any more games than we would have expected too as this stage.
Will be delighted with a LBP and stopping sarries getting a WBP.
Beshocked - fixtures have flattered us so far. Saints away was the battle of who was slightly less awful, Exeter away we got lucky at the end. Tigers gave us a lesson at their place. I haven't seen the quins game yet.
In summary, not sure we've won any more games than we would have expected too as this stage.
Will be delighted with a LBP and stopping sarries getting a WBP.
Bathite- Posts : 8468
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Bath have been picking up some great away wins at Gloucester,Exeter,Saints etc.
Only 2 losses in two very tough away venues, Leicester are no mugs at home, 4th in the league.
Quins have won every game at home this season in the AP and you were the team closest to victory.
Bath are unbeaten at home in the AP, going to be very tough indeed. Been destroying opposition at home too.
Only 2 losses in two very tough away venues, Leicester are no mugs at home, 4th in the league.
Quins have won every game at home this season in the AP and you were the team closest to victory.
Bath are unbeaten at home in the AP, going to be very tough indeed. Been destroying opposition at home too.
beshocked- Posts : 14849
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Charlie Walker only warming the bench while our internationals are away.
Feel for the lad, he should be 1st XV, should have left in the summer.
Feel for the lad, he should be 1st XV, should have left in the summer.
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Anyone else fancy Sale against Chiefs tonight? Sale aren't in great form but neither are the Chiefs who are still having to operate with two 8's in the backrow.
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Well I jinxed that good and proper.
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Our back row options coming up are scary.
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Welly wrote: Our back row options coming up are scary.
Tigers or England?
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formerly known as Sam wrote:Welly wrote: Our back row options coming up are scary.
Tigers or England?
Both (Mainly England though).
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Welly wrote:formerly known as Sam wrote:Welly wrote: Our back row options coming up are scary.
Tigers or England?
Both (Mainly England though).
It's looking really good now we are bringing through players of skill and speed alongside the power options. Maybe Jones will have that seven he claims England don't have soon to go with our big aggressive options. Evans getting game time at 19 and Curry at 18.
On a Tigers side of things a development backrow of Owen, Evans and Tuilagi is pretty good. Think Owen might have missed his chance though.
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formerly known as Sam wrote:Welly wrote:formerly known as Sam wrote:Welly wrote: Our back row options coming up are scary.
Tigers or England?
Both (Mainly England though).
It's looking really good now we are bringing through players of skill and speed alongside the power options. Maybe Jones will have that seven he claims England don't have soon to go with our big aggressive options. Evans getting game time at 19 and Curry at 18.
On a Tigers side of things a development backrow of Owen, Evans and Tuilagi is pretty good. Think Owen might have missed his chance though.
Even the academy age group under we have
Fenner
Reffell
Grahamslaw
Who get good reviews.
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Welly wrote:formerly known as Sam wrote:Welly wrote:formerly known as Sam wrote:Welly wrote: Our back row options coming up are scary.
Tigers or England?
Both (Mainly England though).
It's looking really good now we are bringing through players of skill and speed alongside the power options. Maybe Jones will have that seven he claims England don't have soon to go with our big aggressive options. Evans getting game time at 19 and Curry at 18.
On a Tigers side of things a development backrow of Owen, Evans and Tuilagi is pretty good. Think Owen might have missed his chance though.
Even the academy age group under we have
Fenner
Reffell
Grahamslaw
Who get good reviews.
Just got to hope they get game time with the salary cap going up. I remember really rating Joel Conlon for the England under 20s but he's barely seen AP action at Chiefs then Sarries.
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Losing steam here. Fear the inevitable happening in last 8 minutes
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Get the f*** in! Did not see that coming.
Faletau off injured AGAIN. But Tapuai looks a great little signing, in the Eastmond mould. Remember rating him when he was at the Reds a few years back but he's started well here.
Faletau off injured AGAIN. But Tapuai looks a great little signing, in the Eastmond mould. Remember rating him when he was at the Reds a few years back but he's started well here.
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Quick fire yellow card for Luther Burrell.
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Aussie commentator is grating on me already. Who is it?
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Compared to watching England/Australia this is a massive drop off in quality
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Betham should of passed that
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There's not a challenge there. North jumps straight in to Thompstone. He doesn't even see him coming.
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Doesn't look good for north
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North has jumped into the tackle. North makes that a dangerous situation. It's ILLEGAL to jump into a tackle. Not impressed by that.
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North's head bounces off the turf. Should be red.
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Hmmmm, you can't jump into the tackle
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doctor_grey wrote:North's head bounces off the turf. Should be red.
Shouldn't be, he jumped into the tackle.
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He uses his elbow to push himself forward. What a joke
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Maybe you missed the ref saying about 5 times he's entitled to jump because it's a bouncing ball. He was in the air a long time before the tackle, he didn't jump into it.
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And no he didnt. He lifted himself to get the ball free. His body position didn't change.
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