HSBC Sevens 2016/17

Men's Dubai leg started today. England managed a clean sweep of pool wins, including a 12-26 victory over New Zealand. Scotland dropped a match to South Africa, and Wales dropped one to Fiji, but both are in the Quarter Finals.

Fiji beat Argentina 22-19 but had to survive two yellow cards along the way.

Short highlights:



Quarter Finals:

Fiji vs France
England vs Scotland
Australia vs Wales
South Africa vs New Zealand

Woah, that went under the radar a bit.

Cyril wrote:Woah, that went under the radar a bit.

Australian coverage seemed more comprehensive, because they went into the women's tournament as Olympic gold medallists.

Rugby Fan wrote:

Cyril wrote:Woah, that went under the radar a bit.

Australian coverage seemed more comprehensive, because they went into the women's tournament as Olympic gold medallists.

Thanks for the vid

Really good win for England over NZ despite a few NZ high tackles.

Are there citings in 7s?

Good result for Wales to beat Australia. England just sneaked Scotland on the scoreboard but don't know how the game went. South Africa smashed New Zealand, who don't look much better than their poor Olymoics form.

Fiji 40-5 France
England 24-21 Scotland
Australia 12-21 Wales
South Africa 40-0 New Zealand

England just squeaked that win over Scotland with the last move of the game. Scotland led 21-14 and England scored a try to make it 21-19. Instead of taking the conversion to tie, England turned it down and elected to receive a kick-off (which you can do in Sevens). It was harum-scarum stuff but they managed a winning try. Scotland are a handy side.

Still, England and Wales lost in the semis, and the best two sides this weekend faced off for the title. It was close until late in the second half, but South Africa eventually beat Fiji 26-14.

England beat Wales to finish 3rd.

Rugby Fan wrote:England just squeaked that win over Scotland with the last move of the game. Scotland led 21-14 and England scored a try to make it 21-19. Instead of taking the conversion to tie, England turned it down and elected to receive a kick-off (which you can do in Sevens). It was harum-scarum stuff but they managed a winning try. Scotland are a handy side.

Turns out that isn't the full story of a wild ending.

After England turned down the conversion in favour of receiving a restart, they did regain possession but soon conceded a penalty. Scotland assumed they had won, and kicked the penalty into touch. However, they were unaware of a recent Sevens law change which says the line-out must be played if a penalty after full time is kicked directly out. England won that lineout and then went on to score the winning try.

Pools for the Cape Town leg look like this:

South Africa
Australia
Russia
USA

Fiji
France
Kenya
Japan

England
New Zealand
Argentine
Canada

Wales
Scotland
Samoa
Uganda

Rugby Fan wrote:Pools for the Cape Town leg look like this:

South Africa
Australia
Russia
USA

Fiji
France
Kenya
Japan

England
New Zealand
Argentine
Canada

Wales
Scotland
Samoa
Uganda

Interesting comparing the strength of the 3rd (Eng/NZ) and the 4th (Wales) groups.

Good chance for Scotland to top the group. Wales surely can't be a top 4 seed ahead of NZ and Australia. I would have thought Scotland and USA would be ahead of them as well. Strange group.

Where has the money come from for Uganda to get into the top table for Dubai and Cape Town?

Hazel Sapling wrote:...Wales surely can't be a top 4 seed ahead of NZ and Australia...

The first team in each group are the four semi finalists from Dubai. The second teams in each group are the four losing quarter-finalists from Dubai etc etc.

The previous leg decides which tier you are in, and then the draw combines one team from each of the four tiers into a pool for the next leg.

Rugby Fan wrote:

Hazel Sapling wrote:...Wales surely can't be a top 4 seed ahead of NZ and Australia...

The first team in each group are the four semi finalists from Dubai. The second teams in each group are the four losing quarter-finalists from Dubai etc etc.

The previous leg decides which tier you are in, and then the draw combines one team from each of the four tiers into a pool for the next leg.

Good to know. Missed Wales when I scanned through earlier.

Good tournament for England in Cape Town so far. They have reached the final, and will play South Africa, who are the form team so far.

In pool play, Australia missed out on the main competition by losing to USA. England lost to NZ but easily had second spot, so progressed to the quarter finals. Scotland beat Wales in their pool decider, with both sides going through the Cup quarters.

That second place pool finish meant England faced Fiji in the quarters but a last-gasp try evened the scores at 26-26 and England went on to a 26-31 extra time win. Some turnaround after Fiji had quickly gone 19-0 ahead.



The Boks beat Wales, NZ beat Kenya, and Scotland beat USA to settle the semis.

South Africa beat NZ 14-7, while England beat Scotland 14-33.

A better tournament for NZ, while Scotland also look a decent side.

Tense first half. South Africa got a opening try but England hit back with two of their own to lead 5-12.

South Africa draw level, and Biibby goes off with some kind of ankle injury.

What a massive win for England !

BlitzBokke downed in Cape Town.

Engand led by 7 points with 30 seconds to go, when Dan Norton was yellow-carded for a high tackle. South Africa scored on full-time but couldn't convert from out wide to draw level. Ruaridh McConnochie named man of the match.

Much better start to the year for England. It's the first tournament win since Tokyo 2015.

Standings after the first two rounds are:

South Africa - 41
England - 39
Fiji - 32
Scotland - 27
NZ - 27
Wales - 25
Australia - 18
USA - 18
France- - 18

The final:

Just been watching today's games on record.

England's comeback against Fiji was very, very impressive. When Fiji come out and get 19-0 up you don't give anybody much hope. Some really nice tries by both sides. Norton was kept pretty quiet until his winning score. Very classy finisher.

England's greater physicality seemed to be the deciding factor against SA. Good fitness too after some draining games. Really impressed by De Carpentier.

England, Scotland and Wales all showing up pretty well after the first 2 rounds.

Hazel Sapling wrote:Good chance for Scotland to top the group. Wales surely can't be a top 4 seed ahead of NZ and Australia. I would have thought Scotland and USA would be ahead of them as well. Strange group.

Where has the money come from for Uganda to get into the top table for Dubai and Cape Town?

You obviously know nothing about 7's with your pathetic judgement about Wales. Stick to knitting.

rainbow-warrior wrote:

Hazel Sapling wrote:Good chance for Scotland to top the group. Wales surely can't be a top 4 seed ahead of NZ and Australia. I would have thought Scotland and USA would be ahead of them as well. Strange group.

Where has the money come from for Uganda to get into the top table for Dubai and Cape Town?

You obviously know nothing about 7's with your pathetic judgement about Wales.  Stick to knitting.

Clearly I know nothing. I will go and take up knitting for suggesting Wales are weaker than NZ at 7's....like they have been in the official rankings for a decade or Australia....who have finished ahead of them 7 times (with 1 draw) in the last decade or Scotland and USA.....who have finished above them each of the last 2 years.

I will go take up baking instead of knitting though. I prefer cake to woollen jumpers.

rainbow-warrior wrote:

Hazel Sapling wrote:Good chance for Scotland to top the group. Wales surely can't be a top 4 seed ahead of NZ and Australia. I would have thought Scotland and USA would be ahead of them as well. Strange group.

Where has the money come from for Uganda to get into the top table for Dubai and Cape Town?

You obviously know nothing about 7's with your pathetic judgement about Wales.  Stick to knitting.

Oooooooooooooh.

Haul the claws in, petal, before you poke one of your eyes out.

Galted wrote:

rainbow-warrior wrote:

Hazel Sapling wrote:Good chance for Scotland to top the group. Wales surely can't be a top 4 seed ahead of NZ and Australia. I would have thought Scotland and USA would be ahead of them as well. Strange group.

Where has the money come from for Uganda to get into the top table for Dubai and Cape Town?

You obviously know nothing about 7's with your pathetic judgement about Wales.  Stick to knitting.

Oooooooooooooh.

Haul the claws in, petal, before you poke one of your eyes out.

You have to understand how clearly RW sees every detail of Welsh rugby from the top of his lofty mountain in NZ

lostinwales wrote:

Galted wrote:

rainbow-warrior wrote:

Hazel Sapling wrote:Good chance for Scotland to top the group. Wales surely can't be a top 4 seed ahead of NZ and Australia. I would have thought Scotland and USA would be ahead of them as well. Strange group.

Where has the money come from for Uganda to get into the top table for Dubai and Cape Town?

You obviously know nothing about 7's with your pathetic judgement about Wales.  Stick to knitting.

Oooooooooooooh.

Haul the claws in, petal, before you poke one of your eyes out.

You have to understand how clearly RW sees every detail of Welsh rugby from the top of his lofty mountain in NZ

I tend to see any sort of rugby through the bottom of a pint glass so my understanding is a bit threadbare.

Guys a complete God knows what he see's from his ivory tower..

Next round is now under way in Wellington.

This leg has drawn headlines for the wrong reasons, as ticket sales have been slow, and it seems the stadium will only be half full. Wellington was once a very popular round on the circuit but a variety of circumstances have conspired to turn people off the event. A popular explanation is that drunk and rowdy crowds turned families away, while a crackdown on alcohol now keeps the partygoers away too.

It's an anomaly on the circuit, where audiences elsewhere have been growing. Wellington has the contract for the next couple of years, so it doesn't look like anything can be done for now to reschedule elsewhere in NZ, or another country.

In the biggest pool match so far, Fiji beat Australia 26-12, after coming back from behind. The match-up between NZ and Samoa will be interesting, since the old NZ coach, Sir Gordon Tietjens, is now in charge of Samoa.

It's a shame to see all the 'families' that were put off the event by rowdy young people and would rather watch it at home on the TV are still watching it at home on the TV. It's an embarrassment.

Unfortunately Kiwi's and alcohol = bad experiences for others. They just can not behave once they have smelt the barman's apron never mind glasses of beer. A stroll down Courtney Place any weekend shows men and women vomiting freely on the street and collapsing. Add a world 7's competition, fancy dress and it just gets worse. Even a Mexican wave at a AB's game in NZ results in mindless idiots throwing half full plastic bottles of beer in the stadium usually hitting someone including children.

If the only reason to go to the 7's was to get tanked up then it's great that the alcohol ban was put in place. I am sure the AUckland 9's will prove to be a far better place to be

ebop wrote:It's a shame to see all the 'families' that were put off the event by rowdy young people and would rather watch it at home on the TV are still watching it at home on the TV. It's an embarrassment.

It's a shame. NZ is the world leader in rugby, so it doesn't look good to see a lot of empty seats at a premier international competition. I think the players still like going to the country, mind you.

Australia lost out in the pool of death (which included South Africa & Fiji). England won their pool, so face Scotland, who beat Wales & Russia, but went down to Canada. Whoever wins England vs Scotland will face the winner of Fiji vs NZ.

Full Quarter Finals:

England vs Scotland
Fiji vs NZ
Canada vs Argentina
South Africa vs France

England vs Sccotland on now.

Scotland have injuries, and so have called up their 13th man.

A try apiece so far.

Revenge for Duba, as Scotland win 12-14. England got the last score but couldn't convert.

Fiji won their quarter final against NZ, knocking the hosts out of the Cup, and ending their Wellington winning streak.

Canada beat Argentina in the 3rd Quarter final. It was a close run thing but lots of errors.

South Africa vs France will give us the last semi-finalist. South Africa are heavy favourites.

Easy win for South Africa.

Scotland play Fiji on one semi, while Canada face South Africa in the other.

England face NZ to see if they can get a 5th/6th place match against the winner of Argentina vs France. The New Zealand crowd won't have been pleased to see their team go out of the cup so early, but a head-to-head with England should keep them interested.

Scotland gave Fiji a good run but lost out in the end. A good tournament overall as they also beat Canada in the bronze medal match (even better for Canada, who finished 13th in the last two rounds).

England were nilled by NZ in the right to enter the 5th/6th play-off, so a disappointing round after two good legs in Dubai & Cape Town.

Fiji vs South Africa final still to come. South Africa have swept all before them so far, but Fiji are obviously no mugs.

Fiji have SA a fright early on, but drew a yellow card. From that point on, it was all South Africa. Their bench was useful, with two guys coming on and scoring tries. They look the team to beat this season.

There seemed to be hardly anyone watching from the stands, what was the attendance?

Pools for Sydney announced

Pool A - South Africa, England, Kenya, Japan
Pool B - Fiji, France, Wales, Samoa
Pool C - Scotland, New Zealand, Australia, PNG
Pool D - Canada, Argentina, USA, Russia

All three home teams could go through with that draw. Scotland have been playing better than Australia, so ought to fancy their chances. It depends on the injury list, because I think they went three men down at one point in the tournament.

England have had the better of Kenya and Japan but will need to be more consistent to progress further. Dan Norton is in rare form, despite a few unwise loose passes but there's not a lot of power in our squad. Would like to see more of Lindsay-Hague.

Wales have looked off the pace, but can mix it with Samoa and France on their day. France probably start as favourites to progress with Fiji but Tietjens is expected to start pulling Samoa into shape some time, so they are still a bit of a wild card.

rainbow-warrior wrote:Unfortunately Kiwi's and alcohol = bad experiences for others.  They just can not behave once they have smelt the barman's apron never mind glasses of beer.  A stroll down Courtney Place any weekend shows men and women vomiting freely on the street and collapsing.  Add a world 7's competition, fancy dress and it just gets worse.  Even a Mexican wave at a AB's game in NZ results in mindless idiots throwing half full plastic bottles of beer in the stadium usually hitting someone including children.

If the only reason to go to the 7's was to get tanked up then it's great that the alcohol ban was put in place.  I am sure the AUckland 9's will prove to be a far better place to be

Still wearing that chip about your adopted country RW. You'd think you'd have grown out of it by now.

Sad as. And good to see there's no such problem in your absence.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/named-shamed---cardiff-nightclubs-8909604

Time to go back?

Rugby Fan wrote:Fiji have SA a fright early on, but drew a yellow card. From that point on, it was all South Africa. Their bench was useful, with two guys coming on and scoring tries. They look the team to beat this season.

Yes they deserve a series win finally after all these years.

Taylorman wrote:

rainbow-warrior wrote:Unfortunately Kiwi's and alcohol = bad experiences for others.  They just can not behave once they have smelt the barman's apron never mind glasses of beer.  A stroll down Courtney Place any weekend shows men and women vomiting freely on the street and collapsing.  Add a world 7's competition, fancy dress and it just gets worse.  Even a Mexican wave at a AB's game in NZ results in mindless idiots throwing half full plastic bottles of beer in the stadium usually hitting someone including children.

If the only reason to go to the 7's was to get tanked up then it's great that the alcohol ban was put in place.  I am sure the AUckland 9's will prove to be a far better place to be

Still wearing that chip about your adopted country RW. You'd think you'd have grown out of it by now.

Sad as. And good to see there's no such problem in your absence.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/named-shamed---cardiff-nightclubs-8909604

Time to go back?

Chip on my shoulder???

You have Trumpitis- can't see the truth when it slaps you in the face.  Plain to see you ain't been to an AB game for a while if you say beer bottles are not tossed in the air when the Mexican Wave starts.  It's a fact that Kiwis have a huge inability to drink alcohol, you prove that each weekend, even the women are a disgrace.  No wonder the stronger drinks have been banned for the weaker alcohol ones.  Maybe Bill English should up the drinking Law to 30 years of age although I still feel that may be too young too.  You must have a bag of spuds on your shoulder pal.

Before you criticize Wales and drink......................... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvnDPwft75s

rainbow-warrior wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

rainbow-warrior wrote:Unfortunately Kiwi's and alcohol = bad experiences for others.  They just can not behave once they have smelt the barman's apron never mind glasses of beer.  A stroll down Courtney Place any weekend shows men and women vomiting freely on the street and collapsing.  Add a world 7's competition, fancy dress and it just gets worse.  Even a Mexican wave at a AB's game in NZ results in mindless idiots throwing half full plastic bottles of beer in the stadium usually hitting someone including children.

If the only reason to go to the 7's was to get tanked up then it's great that the alcohol ban was put in place.  I am sure the AUckland 9's will prove to be a far better place to be

Still wearing that chip about your adopted country RW. You'd think you'd have grown out of it by now.

Sad as. And good to see there's no such problem in your absence.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/named-shamed---cardiff-nightclubs-8909604

Time to go back?

Chip on my shoulder???

You have Trumpitis- can't see the truth when it slaps you in the face.  Plain to see you ain't been to an AB game for a while if you say beer bottles are not tossed in the air when the Mexican Wave starts.  It's a fact that Kiwis have a huge inability to drink alcohol, you prove that each weekend, even the women are a disgrace.  No wonder the stronger drinks have been banned for the weaker alcohol ones.  Maybe Bill English should up the drinking Law to 30 years of age although I still feel that may be too young too.  You must have a bag of spuds on your shoulder pal.

Before you criticize Wales and drink.........................      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvnDPwft75s

Well I've been down Courtenay place dozens of times over the past decade, many after midnight and I've not personally seen one man or woman vomiting or collapsing myself, but I have over the years seen thousands enjoying the nightlife, eachothers company, the fine dining, as you'd expect in any modern city.

If you on your casual strolls on any given weekend are experiencing that on a regular basis then perhaps you either need to either change the company you keep, or see a counsellor, or both.

Taylorman wrote:

rainbow-warrior wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

rainbow-warrior wrote:Unfortunately Kiwi's and alcohol = bad experiences for others.  They just can not behave once they have smelt the barman's apron never mind glasses of beer.  A stroll down Courtney Place any weekend shows men and women vomiting freely on the street and collapsing.  Add a world 7's competition, fancy dress and it just gets worse.  Even a Mexican wave at a AB's game in NZ results in mindless idiots throwing half full plastic bottles of beer in the stadium usually hitting someone including children.

If the only reason to go to the 7's was to get tanked up then it's great that the alcohol ban was put in place.  I am sure the AUckland 9's will prove to be a far better place to be

Still wearing that chip about your adopted country RW. You'd think you'd have grown out of it by now.

Sad as. And good to see there's no such problem in your absence.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/named-shamed---cardiff-nightclubs-8909604

Time to go back?

Chip on my shoulder???

You have Trumpitis- can't see the truth when it slaps you in the face.  Plain to see you ain't been to an AB game for a while if you say beer bottles are not tossed in the air when the Mexican Wave starts.  It's a fact that Kiwis have a huge inability to drink alcohol, you prove that each weekend, even the women are a disgrace.  No wonder the stronger drinks have been banned for the weaker alcohol ones.  Maybe Bill English should up the drinking Law to 30 years of age although I still feel that may be too young too.  You must have a bag of spuds on your shoulder pal.

Before you criticize Wales and drink.........................      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvnDPwft75s

Well I've been down Courtenay place dozens of times over the past decade, many after midnight and I've not personally seen one man or woman vomiting or collapsing myself, but I have over the years seen thousands enjoying the nightlife, eachothers company, the fine dining, as you'd expect in any modern city.

If you on your casual strolls on any given weekend are experiencing that on a regular basis then perhaps you either need to either change the company you keep, or see a counsellor, or both.

Hmmmm possibly enquire with your local police or Wellington Free Ambulance who are always parked on Courtney Place each weekend picking up the dregs. I would not believe anything else from a Kiwi, blinkered vision and denial even if it is there in front of them. Anyway the Wales 7's lads had a good night after the tournament at the Welsh Bar. Do pop in some time Taylor

rainbow-warrior wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

rainbow-warrior wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

rainbow-warrior wrote:Unfortunately Kiwi's and alcohol = bad experiences for others.  They just can not behave once they have smelt the barman's apron never mind glasses of beer.  A stroll down Courtney Place any weekend shows men and women vomiting freely on the street and collapsing.  Add a world 7's competition, fancy dress and it just gets worse.  Even a Mexican wave at a AB's game in NZ results in mindless idiots throwing half full plastic bottles of beer in the stadium usually hitting someone including children.

If the only reason to go to the 7's was to get tanked up then it's great that the alcohol ban was put in place.  I am sure the AUckland 9's will prove to be a far better place to be

Still wearing that chip about your adopted country RW. You'd think you'd have grown out of it by now.

Sad as. And good to see there's no such problem in your absence.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/named-shamed---cardiff-nightclubs-8909604

Time to go back?

Chip on my shoulder???

You have Trumpitis- can't see the truth when it slaps you in the face.  Plain to see you ain't been to an AB game for a while if you say beer bottles are not tossed in the air when the Mexican Wave starts.  It's a fact that Kiwis have a huge inability to drink alcohol, you prove that each weekend, even the women are a disgrace.  No wonder the stronger drinks have been banned for the weaker alcohol ones.  Maybe Bill English should up the drinking Law to 30 years of age although I still feel that may be too young too.  You must have a bag of spuds on your shoulder pal.

Before you criticize Wales and drink.........................      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvnDPwft75s

Well I've been down Courtenay place dozens of times over the past decade, many after midnight and I've not personally seen one man or woman vomiting or collapsing myself, but I have over the years seen thousands enjoying the nightlife, eachothers company, the fine dining, as you'd expect in any modern city.

If you on your casual strolls on any given weekend are experiencing that on a regular basis then perhaps you either need to either change the company you keep, or see a counsellor, or both.

Hmmmm  possibly enquire with your local police or Wellington Free Ambulance who are always parked on Courtney Place each weekend picking up the dregs.  I would not believe anything else from a Kiwi, blinkered vision and denial even if it is there in front of them.  Anyway the Wales 7's lads had a good night after the tournament at the Welsh Bar.  Do pop in some time Taylor

Oh, so now it's not a 'on any regular weekend stroll'  that these incidents can be seen. You need to 'enquire through the local ambulance service' to trace these occurrences, hmm, kind of a different picture painted there now it seems.

Of course enquiring the local ambulance services of every other city worldwide would not possibly cite any such incidents as those that might occur in Wellington.

And I'm glad the boys did enjoy their night out. By far the majority normally do.

Sadly, I can't comment on how p!ssed it is possible to get in Wellington without being arrested but I would like to say that Scotland coming third in that tournament made me very happy. 

If people haven't seen the 3rd/4th place play off between Scotland and Canada, then I can thoroughly recommend this if you have a spare 15 minutes:



Christchurch, on the other hand, I have been absolutely battered in. The police were very polite in telling me to please put trousers back on.

GC, was the 'please' uttered in a really plaintive tone?

England unchanged for Sydney. That's the best run of squad continuity we've enjoyed for a while.

Dan Bibby, Tom Bowen, Phil Burgess, Alex Davis, Richard de Carpentier, Ollie Lindsay-Hague, Charlie Hayter, Ruaridh McConnochie, Tom Mitchell ©, Dan Norton, James Rodwell, Ethan Waddleton

Scotland have called up Gregor Hunter but I haven't seen the final squad announcement yet.

Taylorman wrote:

rainbow-warrior wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

rainbow-warrior wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

rainbow-warrior wrote:Unfortunately Kiwi's and alcohol = bad experiences for others.  They just can not behave once they have smelt the barman's apron never mind glasses of beer.  A stroll down Courtney Place any weekend shows men and women vomiting freely on the street and collapsing.  Add a world 7's competition, fancy dress and it just gets worse.  Even a Mexican wave at a AB's game in NZ results in mindless idiots throwing half full plastic bottles of beer in the stadium usually hitting someone including children.

If the only reason to go to the 7's was to get tanked up then it's great that the alcohol ban was put in place.  I am sure the AUckland 9's will prove to be a far better place to be

Still wearing that chip about your adopted country RW. You'd think you'd have grown out of it by now.

Sad as. And good to see there's no such problem in your absence.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/named-shamed---cardiff-nightclubs-8909604

Time to go back?

Chip on my shoulder???

You have Trumpitis- can't see the truth when it slaps you in the face.  Plain to see you ain't been to an AB game for a while if you say beer bottles are not tossed in the air when the Mexican Wave starts.  It's a fact that Kiwis have a huge inability to drink alcohol, you prove that each weekend, even the women are a disgrace.  No wonder the stronger drinks have been banned for the weaker alcohol ones.  Maybe Bill English should up the drinking Law to 30 years of age although I still feel that may be too young too.  You must have a bag of spuds on your shoulder pal.

Before you criticize Wales and drink.........................      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvnDPwft75s

Well I've been down Courtenay place dozens of times over the past decade, many after midnight and I've not personally seen one man or woman vomiting or collapsing myself, but I have over the years seen thousands enjoying the nightlife, eachothers company, the fine dining, as you'd expect in any modern city.

If you on your casual strolls on any given weekend are experiencing that on a regular basis then perhaps you either need to either change the company you keep, or see a counsellor, or both.

Hmmmm  possibly enquire with your local police or Wellington Free Ambulance who are always parked on Courtney Place each weekend picking up the dregs.  I would not believe anything else from a Kiwi, blinkered vision and denial even if it is there in front of them.  Anyway the Wales 7's lads had a good night after the tournament at the Welsh Bar.  Do pop in some time Taylor

Oh, so now it's not a 'on any regular weekend stroll'  that these incidents can be seen. You need to 'enquire through the local ambulance service' to trace these occurrences, hmm, kind of a different picture painted there now it seems.

Of course enquiring the local ambulance services of every other city worldwide would not possibly cite any such incidents as those that might occur in Wellington.

And I'm glad the boys did enjoy their night out. By far the majority normally do.

It multiplies when there is an event and the 7's was a disgrace. Well done the council for putting a stop to it. Shame on the so called 7's fans for not really being 7's fans at all and turning their backs on the tournament once the ban on booze was put in place. Most weekends there are enough incidents for the Free Ambulance to put staff on the streets to treat the drunks. By the way I now live in Wellington so am aware