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Khan & Brook 'in talks for 2017 fight'
Can see this happening to be honest. Makes sense for both of them.
Eddie will have 3 PPV's in 3 months and 2 Wembley Stadium fights in 2 months....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/38312527
Eddie will have 3 PPV's in 3 months and 2 Wembley Stadium fights in 2 months....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/38312527
Guest82- Posts : 1075
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I want to see this fight.
AdamT- Posts : 6651
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Yeah two fighters brutally beaten in their last fights some ppv
Lost it's sheen for me
They need a good a win a piece for this to be ppv worthy
Lost it's sheen for me
They need a good a win a piece for this to be ppv worthy
Herman Jaeger- Posts : 3532
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I've gone hot and cold on this fight but I would like to see it. Khan has stated he will use Brook as a tune up fight hahaha. He talks a lot Khan doesn't he.
EX7EY- Posts : 531
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Brook can't outbox the kid. Nobody can!!
AdamT- Posts : 6651
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AdamT wrote:Brook can't outbox the kid. Nobody can!!
But they can KO him though hahaha. I think this ends with Khan eating a fat slice of humble pie, and if he does lose it's time to retire.
EX7EY- Posts : 531
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I think that Brook can both outbox him and stop him, Khan could be in for a rude awakening.
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Hammersmith harrier wrote:I think that Brook can both outbox him and stop him, Khan could be in for a rude awakening.
Me too! Bad fight for Khan. He gets off to the usual decent start, then Brook finds his range around the 3rd or 4th round. Don't think it will pass the halfway stage.
AdamT- Posts : 6651
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Dont think Brook can outbox him at all. Think he can time him very well and stop him.
If Khan sticks to his gameplan (which lasts about 4 rounds before he ruins it with bravado and mistakes), he will frustrate Brook for a while.
If Khan avoids a shot, he wins a shutout. He wont avoid a shot, will get lazy, get caught coming in AKA Garcia, and lose.
If Khan sticks to his gameplan (which lasts about 4 rounds before he ruins it with bravado and mistakes), he will frustrate Brook for a while.
If Khan avoids a shot, he wins a shutout. He wont avoid a shot, will get lazy, get caught coming in AKA Garcia, and lose.
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Timing beats speed, aside from handspeed I don't see any advantage Khan has.
Hammersmith harrier- Posts : 12060
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I watched the Canelo fight again. Canelo was beating Khan by boxing after the second round. As Hammer has said, timing really does beat speed. Khan is pretty reckless when he comes forward. His best bet is to try and fight like a counter puncher and always stay on the outside. He hasn't the discipline to do that for more than a few rounds. Brook will ko him sooner or later.
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Brook will knock Khan out.
hazharrison- Posts : 7540
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It really does make me laugh how Khan has said he will use the Brook fight as a tune up for a big fight. He's got delusions of grandeur in a serious way. He has put himself in the elite fighter bracket, alongside Mayweather and Pacquaio. It's hilarious.
EX7EY- Posts : 531
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Yes Yes Yes
If Brook gets past Spence that is.... which means Khan is probably banking on him not doing that
If Brook gets past Spence that is.... which means Khan is probably banking on him not doing that
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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BoxingFan88 wrote:Yes Yes Yes
If Brook gets past Spence that is.... which means Khan is probably banking on him not doing that
Pretty sure Brook won't fight Spence now. He'll drop the belt for the easier, more lucrative fight.
Guest82- Posts : 1075
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Big loss of respect if Brook drops his belt
Herman Jaeger- Posts : 3532
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Think he'll have to. He's not going to pass on massive money to fight his long time rival on PPV in a stadium.
To be fair, I don't really blame him either.
I think he called Khans bluff a bit as Khan said any fight would have to be Welter. I think he would have fought at light middle for anyone bar Khan.
To be fair, I don't really blame him either.
I think he called Khans bluff a bit as Khan said any fight would have to be Welter. I think he would have fought at light middle for anyone bar Khan.
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Guest82 wrote:Think he'll have to. He's not going to pass on massive money to fight his long time rival on PPV in a stadium.
To be fair, I don't really blame him either.
I think he called Khans bluff a bit as Khan said any fight would have to be Welter. I think he would have fought at light middle for anyone bar Khan.
Id blame him. He always bangs on about big fights and creating legacy.
Only legacy he has so far is having his face snapped in two by Golovkin and beating Frankie Gavin plus the wars with Carson.
One good win on his record.
He needs a Spence, Thurman, Garcia. Who is Khan these days? Way passed his best, best days at LWW.
Brook by KO but should look to the top ten guys and unifications first
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Yeah loss of respect from me got to say because Spence is the one we all want to see not as though Spence has just turned up either this will look like a cop out
Herman Jaeger- Posts : 3532
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I think the fight everyone wants to see is Khan actually.
Hammersmith harrier- Posts : 12060
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A guy who got pole axed in his last fight vs an upcoming unbeaten fighter who many are calling a future superstar..
ok hammer whatever you say..
ok hammer whatever you say..
Herman Jaeger- Posts : 3532
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I don't even think it's up for debate, the fight that the buying public want to see is Khan, in the grand scheme of things nobody has heard of Spence.
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Herman Jaeger wrote:A guy who got pole axed in his last fight vs an upcoming unbeaten fighter who many are calling a future superstar..
ok hammer whatever you say..
He's right though. Spence is a better fighter than both imo, but Khan and Brook are seen as rivals. It will sell massively over here. Khan has a pretty big following and I imagine that Brooks valiant effort vs GGG will have gained him some new fans. It's a very big fight and I think a great clash of styles.
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Two fighters coming off a loss doesn't deserve to be ppv neither of them ever proved they're number one in any division boxing seems like it's just sheer oportunism these days the fighters and their teams conmen
And worse fans condoning dropping of belts
And worse fans condoning dropping of belts
Herman Jaeger- Posts : 3532
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Herman Jaeger wrote:Two fighters coming off a loss doesn't deserve to be ppv neither of them ever proved they're number one in any division boxing seems like it's just sheer oportunism these days the fighters and their teams conmen
Conor McGregor came off a huge loss and was still the money fight in mma. It's the way it is.
They were coming off two losses to bigger men. They can sell that as their excuse to lose. People in the Uk want to see these two men fight. That includes me. There is also some genuine heat in this one and a l lot of trash talk over the years. It is a chance to see two talented fighters from the same country settle a score.
AdamT- Posts : 6651
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Just a bit convenient for my liking it's happening now when Spence is mandatory and no way in hell does Khan deserve a ppv wasn't even a close fight his last
Herman Jaeger- Posts : 3532
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According to Khan he was winning the fight and a lucky punch. I have to say that isn't what I saw.
AdamT- Posts : 6651
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I think this fight is happening because Khan is ready to cash in. Brook would have taken it before any other fight at any stage of his career. Just good luck for him that Spence is his mandatory.
Although, I think he only said he would carry on at Welter to get the Khan fight. I expect he will move up afterwards.
Although, I think he only said he would carry on at Welter to get the Khan fight. I expect he will move up afterwards.
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Kell not so special one if he ducks Spence
Let's give him the Khan fight first then see what he does
Let's give him the Khan fight first then see what he does
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Herman Jaeger wrote:Two fighters coming off a loss doesn't deserve to be ppv neither of them ever proved they're number one in any division boxing seems like it's just sheer oportunism these days the fighters and their teams conmen
And worse fans condoning dropping of belts
I think this is the issue, belts are now meaningless nowadays as there's so many of them. People couldn't tell you what belts Mayweather had just that he was the man to beat and the best in the division.
For example, yesterday Vitali Klitschko was named ‘Eternal World Heavyweight Champion’ by the WBC. It's obviously a novelty but again just devalues belts even further.
http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/vitali-klitschko-named-eternal-world-heavyweight-champion-by-the-wbc/
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Eternal lol
With all these belts it just makes it easier for the conmen to flourish and navigate their way round the difficult fights so the fans don't get to see the fights they want this is the way the game's going hence why 2016 was such a poor year in terms of top quality fights
With all these belts it just makes it easier for the conmen to flourish and navigate their way round the difficult fights so the fans don't get to see the fights they want this is the way the game's going hence why 2016 was such a poor year in terms of top quality fights
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Herman Jaeger wrote:Two fighters coming off a loss doesn't deserve to be ppv neither of them ever proved they're number one in any division boxing seems like it's just sheer oportunism these days the fighters and their teams conmen
And worse fans condoning dropping of belts
Bang on the money for me mate!
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The game's too much of a cynical money making set up now at the highest level and we as fans are consistently not getting the fights we want to see they got it down to a fine art now champions get away with far too many easy defences these days
Herman Jaeger- Posts : 3532
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Aren't we jumping the gun a bit though surely Khan won't take the Brook fight now I can't see him taking that fight now could be wrong though
Herman Jaeger- Posts : 3532
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I would blame Brook
He has been saying "I have to fight mandatories", which is fair enough I have defended him
But then when a mandatory worth facing turns up and he doesn't take it, then its a laughable joke
He can fight Khan in the Summer and fight Spence in the Spring
He has been saying "I have to fight mandatories", which is fair enough I have defended him
But then when a mandatory worth facing turns up and he doesn't take it, then its a laughable joke
He can fight Khan in the Summer and fight Spence in the Spring
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Brook is a b level fighter. After Spence embarrasses him, he'll be better of heading into retirement
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Jermaine2015 wrote:Brook is a b level fighter. After Spence embarrasses him, he'll be better of heading into retirement
Your anti-British wind ups don't tend to be too effective on the boxing board. The People here tend to support the fighter rather than the nation the fighter is from, so people are not always going to be offended when you don't rate any guy that happens to be from the UK.
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'Anti-British'? Yeah whatever floats your boat...I'd watch the brilliant Carl Frampton any day of the week.djlovesyou wrote:Jermaine2015 wrote:Brook is a b level fighter. After Spence embarrasses him, he'll be better of heading into retirement
Your anti-British wind ups don't tend to be too effective on the boxing board. The People here tend to support the fighter rather than the nation the fighter is from, so people are not always going to be offended when you don't rate any guy that happens to be from the UK.
These bums like Brook and Quigg I've got no time for. Face their whole careers padding up their records fighting bums...Brook has faced two top tier fighters out of 37 fights...
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Jermaine2015 wrote:'Anti-British'? Yeah whatever floats your boat...I'd watch the brilliant Carl Frampton any day of the week.djlovesyou wrote:Jermaine2015 wrote:Brook is a b level fighter. After Spence embarrasses him, he'll be better of heading into retirement
Your anti-British wind ups don't tend to be too effective on the boxing board. The People here tend to support the fighter rather than the nation the fighter is from, so people are not always going to be offended when you don't rate any guy that happens to be from the UK.
These bums like Brook and Quigg I've got no time for. Face their whole careers padding up their records fighting bums...Brook has faced two top tier fighters out of 37 fights...
Brook is a bum?
Based on what exactly?
He passes the eye test, which is all we have to go on
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Aside from beating Porter, his signature victory is against a journeyman called Carson Jones...BoxingFan88 wrote:Jermaine2015 wrote:'Anti-British'? Yeah whatever floats your boat...I'd watch the brilliant Carl Frampton any day of the week.djlovesyou wrote:Jermaine2015 wrote:Brook is a b level fighter. After Spence embarrasses him, he'll be better of heading into retirement
Your anti-British wind ups don't tend to be too effective on the boxing board. The People here tend to support the fighter rather than the nation the fighter is from, so people are not always going to be offended when you don't rate any guy that happens to be from the UK.
These bums like Brook and Quigg I've got no time for. Face their whole careers padding up their records fighting bums...Brook has faced two top tier fighters out of 37 fights...
Brook is a bum?
Based on what exactly?
He passes the eye test, which is all we have to go on
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Jermaine2015 wrote:Aside from beating Porter, his signature victory is against a journeyman called Carson Jones...BoxingFan88 wrote:Jermaine2015 wrote:'Anti-British'? Yeah whatever floats your boat...I'd watch the brilliant Carl Frampton any day of the week.djlovesyou wrote:Jermaine2015 wrote:Brook is a b level fighter. After Spence embarrasses him, he'll be better of heading into retirement
Your anti-British wind ups don't tend to be too effective on the boxing board. The People here tend to support the fighter rather than the nation the fighter is from, so people are not always going to be offended when you don't rate any guy that happens to be from the UK.
These bums like Brook and Quigg I've got no time for. Face their whole careers padding up their records fighting bums...Brook has faced two top tier fighters out of 37 fights...
Brook is a bum?
Based on what exactly?
He passes the eye test, which is all we have to go on
Ok, so we completely disregard his best victory and judge him on everything else? I see your posts often, nothing but a WUM.
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Disregarding the fight with Golovkin, 36 wins for Brook at his own weight class. Shawn Porter the only top 10 ranked fighter. Brook's record is padded up fighting bums and bin men.
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Regardless, he went out to the US and took the belt off an unbeaten champion. You can't just dismiss that in order to validate your argument. I have been a critic of Brooks opposition since becoming champion but he showed balls in fighting GGG and despite the result he showed skills. Not to mention a seriously good chin. Some of the shots he took would have had half the middle weight division seeing stars but Brook took them and came back for more. He has now stated that it is big fights only and I actually beleive him, so I'm prepared to judge him on what he does now rather than continue to whine about his current record and call him a bum. All fighters have padded out records nowadays, if he takes 4 or 5 big fights before he calls it a day and gets some good wins under his belt theres no way he could be called a bum.
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See I thought Porter beat Thurman, so that's how good Porter is
He also smacked Broner around, even though he got slapped with a rehydration clause
Spence vs Porter or Pacquiao vs Porter are fights I want to see
Brook is arguably #1 at Welterweight
He also smacked Broner around, even though he got slapped with a rehydration clause
Spence vs Porter or Pacquiao vs Porter are fights I want to see
Brook is arguably #1 at Welterweight
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Brook as a World Champion gives him some pulling power when negotiating a fight.
Brook beating a name (Khan) and selling out a stadium shows him as a big draw financially and gives him far more pulling power when negotiating fights.
For Brook to get the big names and a favourable purse for them he needs the Khan fight (and win) more than the title....
Brook beating a name (Khan) and selling out a stadium shows him as a big draw financially and gives him far more pulling power when negotiating fights.
For Brook to get the big names and a favourable purse for them he needs the Khan fight (and win) more than the title....
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BoxingFan88 wrote:See I thought Porter beat Thurman, so that's how good Porter is
He also smacked Broner around, even though he got slapped with a rehydration clause
Spence vs Porter or Pacquiao vs Porter are fights I want to see
Brook is arguably #1 at Welterweight
Spence is the best Welter until Floyd comes back!
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He's not beaten anyone nor is even a belt holder, the hype around Spence is a bit much.
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AdamT wrote:BoxingFan88 wrote:See I thought Porter beat Thurman, so that's how good Porter is
He also smacked Broner around, even though he got slapped with a rehydration clause
Spence vs Porter or Pacquiao vs Porter are fights I want to see
Brook is arguably #1 at Welterweight
Spence is the best Welter until Floyd comes back!
Haha
We will see
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Brook should fight Spence next for sure.
Khan is an easy fight for Brook, better money but Spence is the bigger test, plus he's the mando.
If Brook does take the Spence option, then his camp MUST insist on VADA testing, not USADA. Haymon has USADA in his pocket, take a close look at Spence, his last two fights compared to all his previous fights....physically he looks TRANSFORMED!!
Khan is an easy fight for Brook, better money but Spence is the bigger test, plus he's the mando.
If Brook does take the Spence option, then his camp MUST insist on VADA testing, not USADA. Haymon has USADA in his pocket, take a close look at Spence, his last two fights compared to all his previous fights....physically he looks TRANSFORMED!!
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