European Tour 2017 DP World Tour Championship

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Order restored Kwini!

Hah!
Looks like McGinley has been eliminated; kinda surprised he hasn't scrounged an invite to the Senior PGA in the US.

It'd only made sense if it was Bernard Gallacher in that foursome..

Just looking at the (revamped) ET Website and the list of entrants.
Some names that I am familiar with, on the reserve list. The number indicates their "alternate" number.
Just shows how quickly some people fall away. e.g. Y E Yang - PGA winner 2009.
14 - Eddie Pepperell
20 - Y E Yang
21 - Tom Lewis
46 - Richard Green
56 - Simon Khan
59 - Seve Benson
81 - Oliver Wilson

BMW PGA up to a SOF of 328 this year. It was below 300 last year.


So the subsidy is down to 14 (64 - 50). Which if we are going to continue to whinge about free points in WGC's seems like a pretty unacceptable situation.

I wonder if a fixed boost of maybe 5 to 10 points would be better?

How much would it cost Pelley to put his hand in his pocket and pay Jordan, Day, DJ and couple of others to turn up? If he wants to boost the ET then whey not pay for it?

I'm never wrong wrote:Just looking at the (revamped) ET Website and the list of entrants.
Some names that I am familiar with, on the reserve list. The number indicates their "alternate" number.
Just shows how quickly some people fall away. e.g. Y E Yang - PGA winner 2009.
14 - Eddie Pepperell
20 - Y E Yang
21 - Tom Lewis
46 - Richard Green
56 - Simon Khan
59 - Seve Benson
81 - Oliver Wilson

Simon Khan! Was it 3 years ago when he lost in the play off to Manassero? Thought this would be enough to get in the field given he is a past winner and I think has another runner up finish.

I'm never wrong

You should see what happened to the 2009 PGA runner up.

Ross Fisher? What's happened to him?
Did your bus come one year early, Mac?

raycastleunited wrote:Simon Khan! Was it 3 years ago when he lost in the play off to Manassero? Thought this would be enough to get in the field given he is a past winner and I think has another runner up finish.

Looking at Simon Khans status, he would have got in if he had finished in the top 127 of the Race to Dubai. If I'm reading the exemption list right, that would have got him into category 18, and then he would jump to category 9 (along with David Howell) for this tournament as a previous winner who finished high enough in the R2D list. I don't know what position and by how much he missed 127th spot on the R2D, as I can't seem to find last years results on the ET website.

Kwini

Didn't Woods finish runner up to yang?

McLaren wrote:Kwini

Didn't Woods finish runner up to yang?

Sorry Mac,
As this was on the ET thread I assumed you meant European Tour PGA and 2010 runner-up Anderson Hed.

Fisher seems to be on a bit of a better run of late, I wonder where he will finish this season?

Ross Fisher is an enigma to me, such a great ball striker but never seems to threaten. A trip to Bob Rotella would probably do him the world of good.

How the hell is Damien McGrane in the PGA field?!?!

Be_the_ball wrote:How the hell is Damien McGrane in the PGA field?!?!

National/regional order of merit

Watching a bit of the preview show and the pro-am. Shevchenko has a very tidy swing, doesn't look like an amateur

Have they done any changes at Wentworth lately, undoing some of the past brain farts? I recall a few years ago everybody hated it, especially after the changes Ernie Els (I think?) did.

raycastleunited wrote:Watching  a bit of the preview show and the pro-am. Shevchenko has a very tidy swing, doesn't look like an amateur

Think he's close to scratch. He also had plenty of time to practise in the later part of his career due to various injuries.

Especially when he was(n't) playing for Chelski.

pedro wrote:Have they done any changes at Wentworth lately, undoing some of the past brain farts? I recall a few years ago everybody hated it, especially after the changes Ernie Els (I think?) did.

Lee Westwood was on the box yesterday saying that they have removed a lot of the bunkers, and replaced/reseeded/flattened many (if not all) greens. Some Tour or recent ex Tour pros were involved.

I think it's been a major refit. Removed bunkers and lowered lips on many. Extraction system under greens so they will be firm whatever the weather - no problems this weekend anyway - meaning hit the fairways or go bounding through green if playing from the rough. We'll see!

The ET is celebrating their flagship event by launching a new and completely useless app and website. Well done. Thought you'd have learned from the PGATour. Never though I'd be following ET golf from the golfchannel website.

Is the ET website down, I can't get it. Looks like it's gone Pelley Up?

pedro wrote:The ET is celebrating their flagship event by launching a new and completely useless app and website. Well done. Thought you'd have learned from the PGATour. Never though I'd be following ET golf from the golfchannel website.

Just noticed there has been an update to the app Pedro in the last couple of days.

I'm not the only one then website is garbage.Lets hope the golf course is better

I agree the new website is sh*** but I do like one change they have made. On the leaderboard you can now list player names alphabetically based on first name so Alex Noren would appear before Shane Lowry; Fantasy League wise that's a big help.

Looks like Poulter will be going through qualifying for the US and Open.

Bunkergate - any thoughts have only seen a clip showing Grace getting a drop after he managed to get to the lining of the bunker-all a bit odd ?

I'm never wrong wrote:

pedro wrote:Have they done any changes at Wentworth lately, undoing some of the past brain farts? I recall a few years ago everybody hated it, especially after the changes Ernie Els (I think?) did.

Lee Westwood was on the box yesterday saying that they have removed a lot of the bunkers, and replaced/reseeded/flattened many (if not all) greens. Some Tour or recent ex Tour pros were involved.

Poulter was also glowing in his praise of the revisions. I believe Els was involved again, and McGinley too.

Major work on the greens. They have installed the sub-air system under the greens like at Augusta, completely relaid them with a different grass (bent not poa? Like Dustin I'm not into grass ), and recontoured them too.

Nice bit of symmetry from the Molinari brothers. Franny leading the way at -7, Edoardo missing the cut by some margin at +7.

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:Nice bit of symmetry from the Molinari brothers. Franny leading the way at -7, Edoardo missing the cut by some margin at +7.

Guess who chose the wrong one in the Fantasy game?

What's worse today?
Luke Donald's horrendous round?
The European Tour website?
As princedrac so rightly said earlier, "Until a year or so ago the European Tour website was a jewel among all golf tour websites. Why go backwards?"

Great graphics and presentation on the new site, but what's the point if the leaderboard doesn't function properly and the site is unnavigable? Who the hell thought that was a good idea?

At least Luke Donald shows glimps of the old version..

The new ET website / app is the classic thing of an inept management without digital visions, priorities or strong opinions who got entangled in an underperforming, overpaid PR agency. (Ironically it's probably Pelleys friends..) The result is a muddy product where form got the upper hand over functionality. I've seen too many examples of this in the past and the result is simply that visitors / users don't come back. A shame really.

I used to like Grace but have just added him to my sh!t list:
http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golf-central-blog/grace-contending-bmw-pga-after-ridiculous-drop

Yet still another proof the rules of golf need a revamp.

pedro wrote:At least Luke Donald shows glimps of the old version..

The new ET website / app is the classic thing of an inept management without digital visions, priorities or strong opinions who got entangled in an underperforming, overpaid PR agency. (Ironically it's probably Pelleys friends..) The result is a muddy product where form got the upper hand over functionality. I've seen too many examples of this in the past and the result is simply that visitors / users don't come back. A shame really.

Turns out that the European Tour are rumoured to have outsourced their new website development to the same outfit that BA used . . . . . . . . .

I'm hoping Grace doesn't win this week. Thought his relief in the bunker was disGRACEful, especially as he admitted that he had used this rule before to gain an advantage.

How good is this from Noren and Lowry!

Wonderful shot into #18 from Noren.
EAGLE! Course record tied.

4putt,
Not Grace's fault if he's given a dodgy ruling. Didn't see it, but he reckoned Harrington had one similar on Friday. Which doesn't make it right, of course.

Putts going in from everywhere . . . . .

I agree on the ET website - it's an abomination! What on earth was wrong with the old one? I can't find anything easily with the new layout and the leaderboard at the top of the page is always showing the wrong scores

Wonderful round and result for Alex Noren, but what an anti-climax, as if all the air went out of everyone's balloon at the same time.

kwinigolfer wrote:but what an anti-climax

. Glad you thought so too, Kwini. Went a bit flat at the end.

Didn't realise until this week that Francesco M is working with Dave Alred- performance coach, not technical - interesting development. Worked for Luke, and appears he needs a bit more.

I know the respective roles of "Cup" Captains and Vice Captains are largely ridiculed on here, but good to see Bjorn has named Robbie Karlsson as his first VC for next year's Ryder Cup.
Have long thought Karlsson should be brought in to the RC fold; will David Howell be next?

Jamie Donaldson noses into the Ordea lead - where's he been?

No Swedes in the Top 15 - kinda strange.

Kwini, ironically both Karlsson (DQ) and Howell (Rtd) are out of the Nordea Masters. If I could access the ET website I could probably find out why. Maybe they read your post.

Great win by Paratore. Let's hope he doesn't go the way of Manassero by listening to commentators (you know who you are Mark Roe) who bleat on about how he needs to add distance to his drives etc etc and then ruins his game. He seems like the real deal to me and the speed at which he plays is a breath of fresh air!

pedro wrote:Kwini, ironically both Karlsson (DQ) and Howell (Rtd) are out of the Nordea Masters. If I could access the ET website I could probably find out why. Maybe they read your post.

In the case of Howell it would have been for sad family reasons.

JAS wrote:

pedro wrote:Kwini, ironically both Karlsson (DQ) and Howell (Rtd) are out of the Nordea Masters. If I could access the ET website I could probably find out why. Maybe they read your post.

In the case of Howell it would have been for sad family reasons.

I thought it was reported that Howell WD'ed due to a back injury?

Irish Open field filling up nicely with Matsuyama joining Rahm, Rory and Rosey . . . . . . .

kwinigolfer wrote:Irish Open field filling up nicely with Matsuyama joining Rahm, Rory and Rosey . . . . . . .

When using this wording I assume that's why Shane Lowry couldn't be included in the sentence..

Filling up nicely:
Rory, Rahm, Rose, Rafa, Hideki, Hatton, Pieters, Poults, Fleetwood, Fitzpatrick, Westwood, Wood, etc, etc - at least a dozen more Top 100 golfers.

And, beneath all that icing, Lowry.