Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
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Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Big fight coming up this weekend so how do people see it going. Santa Cruz saying in the build up that he's going to box more but I don't see this happening and that he'll revert to type once the bell rings. I cannot see him outboxing Frampton despite the size advantage as he technically just not as good. Hopefully we see a fight similar to the first which was a cracker.
I'm going to go for a Frampton win on all cards this time, winning by 3 or 4 rounds. 116-112.
I'm going to go for a Frampton win on all cards this time, winning by 3 or 4 rounds. 116-112.
Pedro147- Posts : 885
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
I smell controversy....
That said, there's some serious love for Framps that side of the pond. And the money men will see him as much more marketable than LSC. Some maybe it'll be ok.....
As you, I can't see LSC changing his spots. Whereas Framps will have that extra experience knowledge and confidence of how to box him. Going for 115-113 Jackal.
That said, there's some serious love for Framps that side of the pond. And the money men will see him as much more marketable than LSC. Some maybe it'll be ok.....
As you, I can't see LSC changing his spots. Whereas Framps will have that extra experience knowledge and confidence of how to box him. Going for 115-113 Jackal.
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
I picked Santa Cruz last time and was over the moon I got it wrong, however I'm picking him again to win this late - I really hope I'm wrong and Carl pulls off another super performance.
Cheers, Rodders
Cheers, Rodders
Rodney- Posts : 1974
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
I can see Frampton winning it late on with a knockdown, he will box a bit smarter and pick his shots which will tell late on and he will pick out a few big punches to put him down
marty2086- Posts : 11208
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
I don't see Frampo stopping him.........Like BJS he'll win it as comfortably and as risk free as he can.....Clever fighter.
Don't see what more LSC can do.......Frampton W12..
Don't see what more LSC can do.......Frampton W12..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40654
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Watching the clips of Frampton he seems to have a bit more snap in his punches so that's why I think he'll get a stoppage, work the body and take the wind out of LSC and it'll take its toll
marty2086- Posts : 11208
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
I liked Frampton at the price being offered in the first one. This time around I like Santa Cruz at the price being offered. I think hes is more likely to get the nod in the close rounds. And I think there will be quite a few close rounds.
catchweight- Posts : 4339
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
So many people think its cut and dry
For me its a 50-50
I thought the first fight was really close, I don't expect anything different in this one
Going with Frampton, more because I want him to win than anything else
For me its a 50-50
I thought the first fight was really close, I don't expect anything different in this one
Going with Frampton, more because I want him to win than anything else
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Very close fight the first one, had Carl winning by a couple at most. Boxed fantastically well.
I can also smell controversy here.
If its as close as before, standby for LSC to pick up a split nod thus creating a trilogy.
Wouldnt be surprised at all.
I hope now that Carl has adjusted to the weight, along with better preps, he can outbox LSC even more, show some more power and cruise to a UD.
You just dont know with this one, it literally could go either way, but man its great for the fans.
Really looking forward to it.
I can also smell controversy here.
If its as close as before, standby for LSC to pick up a split nod thus creating a trilogy.
Wouldnt be surprised at all.
I hope now that Carl has adjusted to the weight, along with better preps, he can outbox LSC even more, show some more power and cruise to a UD.
You just dont know with this one, it literally could go either way, but man its great for the fans.
Really looking forward to it.
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Its a superb night of boxing
Mikey vs Zlaticanin
Selby vs Barros
Frampton vs Cruz II
On the other card
Vargas vs Berchelt
Miura vs Roman
2017 has really kicked off in style
Mikey vs Zlaticanin
Selby vs Barros
Frampton vs Cruz II
On the other card
Vargas vs Berchelt
Miura vs Roman
2017 has really kicked off in style
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Either a late LSC stoppage,or close points win for Frampton. I think the latter.
AdamT- Posts : 6651
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
BoxingFan88 wrote:Its a superb night of boxing
Mikey vs Zlaticanin
Selby vs Barros
Frampton vs Cruz II
On the other card
Vargas vs Berchelt
Miura vs Roman
2017 has really kicked off in style
Who's covering it all?
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Should be a great fight, really want Carl to win.
Just found out who the officials will be on the night....JEEEEZ!!!!!
The Haymon Death Squad will be in full effect!!
Just found out who the officials will be on the night....JEEEEZ!!!!!
The Haymon Death Squad will be in full effect!!
Dylan1979- Posts : 224
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
TopHat24/7 wrote:BoxingFan88 wrote:Its a superb night of boxing
Mikey vs Zlaticanin
Selby vs Barros
Frampton vs Cruz II
On the other card
Vargas vs Berchelt
Miura vs Roman
2017 has really kicked off in style
Who's covering it all?
Sky
Mikey vs Zlaticanin
Selby vs Barros
Frampton vs Cruz II
Boxnation
Vargas vs Berchelt
Miura vs Roman
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Big money showdown with Lee Selby in an outdoor arena in Ireland on the line here for Carl
I don't think Santa Cruz Selby would be difficult to make either
I don't think Santa Cruz Selby would be difficult to make either
Herman Jaeger- Posts : 3532
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
It's amazing how this fight is on regular sky yet people are force to watch Haye vs Bellew on PPV . How does that work.
mobilemaster8- Posts : 4302
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Have you not heard MM, Haye/Bellew is THE grudge fight since the beginning of time, never before seen since David and Goliath stepped into the ring all them years ago
Derbymanc- Posts : 4008
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Couldn't believe it when i saw this was on sky. Huge fight between 2 world class operators with a great undercard (also full of world class operators).
lfc91- Posts : 1498
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
mobilemaster8 wrote:It's amazing how this fight is on regular sky yet people are force to watch Haye vs Bellew on PPV . How does that work.
Small fighters aren't as marketable and never have been..
Haye and Bellew are bigger personalities....
Most importantly Hearn knows there are plenty of dunkin donuts about..
Won't buy Haye v Bellew...Not sure I'll buy Wlad either...Mismatch in my opinion.
But these shows aren't aimed at fans like me.
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40654
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Marketability plays a part, certainly, but I think (allowing exceptions like pac may) the current ppv model, is pizza, beer, bag of popcorn with your mates for an evening's entertainment. Vegas o'clock doesn't sit with that.
milkyboy- Posts : 7761
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Kovalev vs Ward was a huge fight, but I've been looking forward to this more. I guess it's because I'm a huge Jackal fan. However I am a fan of Lsc style of fighting too.
The first fight was brilliant and I think this will be equally as good. It's a great clash of styles.
If Santa Cruz does win a close fight, the consolation is, we most likely see it again.
The first fight was brilliant and I think this will be equally as good. It's a great clash of styles.
If Santa Cruz does win a close fight, the consolation is, we most likely see it again.
AdamT- Posts : 6651
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:mobilemaster8 wrote:It's amazing how this fight is on regular sky yet people are force to watch Haye vs Bellew on PPV . How does that work.
Small fighters aren't as marketable and never have been..
Haye and Bellew are bigger personalities....
Most importantly Hearn knows there are plenty of dunkin donuts about..
Won't buy Haye v Bellew...Not sure I'll buy Wlad either...Mismatch in my opinion.
But these shows aren't aimed at fans like me.
Can see your point Truss.
Wont be watching Haye either - although I'm in Bremen on the 4th for one night so if there is a pub about ill try and watch - defo not paying.
Wont be paying for Wlad either - will probably go somewhere for it have a few and come back.
Seen on Sky this morning its increased to 90.000 a post war record. Blah Blah Blah.
Standard Hearn
mobilemaster8- Posts : 4302
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Worth it just for the look on Carl Froch's face though....
TopHat24/7- Posts : 17008
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
TopHat24/7 wrote:Worth it just for the look on Carl Froch's face though....
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mobilemaster8- Posts : 4302
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Anybody a rough idea of wat time Frampton and LSC will start? These Vegas shows are alarm setters for me these days!
EX7EY- Posts : 531
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
No idea mate but can only assume it will be a late one with a time difference of a mammoth 8 hours!!
Like the east coast shows as 5 hours usually means ring walks around 0230-0330 - Vegas fights tend to be more towards the 0430-0500 mark which is a mighty long night if your having a session and have jobs to do Sunday ie. Take the missus out for lunch
Saying that, i think the Hopkins vs Calzaghe fight started around 20:00 local which would have been around 0400?
Like the east coast shows as 5 hours usually means ring walks around 0230-0330 - Vegas fights tend to be more towards the 0430-0500 mark which is a mighty long night if your having a session and have jobs to do Sunday ie. Take the missus out for lunch
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Saying that, i think the Hopkins vs Calzaghe fight started around 20:00 local which would have been around 0400?
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
EX7EY wrote:Anybody a rough idea of wat time Frampton and LSC will start? These Vegas shows are alarm setters for me these days!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/what-time-carl-frampton-vs-9702741
Seems about right - coverage starts on Sky at 01:00 - Main card starts at 0300 on Showtime which will show Garcia then the main.
Both to be in the ring ready to rumble around 0400.
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
I am hoping for an absolute classic with 12 rounds of war, however while i think it will be a decent fight i think Frampton will win comfortably either by wide decision or late stoppage. He is slightly better in ever department and even seemed to carry the greater power in the first fight while appearing fairly untroubled by LSC's best shots. Frampton is too good and has a great boxing brain that enables him to make adjustments during a fight that other fighters cant live with.
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
hogey wrote:I am hoping for an absolute classic with 12 rounds of war, however while i think it will be a decent fight i think Frampton will win comfortably either by wide decision or late stoppage. He is slightly better in ever department and even seemed to carry the greater power in the first fight while appearing fairly untroubled by LSC's best shots. Frampton is too good and has a great boxing brain that enables him to make adjustments during a fight that other fighters cant live with.
Rewatched his last few fights - LSC was a cracker, watched it live on air and was fantastic.
Also watched the Gonzaelz scrap, great fight - he was a tough cookie - sad to see that he passed away shortly after.
mobilemaster8- Posts : 4302
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Selby fight is off as Barros did not make weight. Disgraceful
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
That's a shame for Selby what must he be feeling like right now
Still a good card though
Still a good card though
Herman Jaeger- Posts : 3532
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
He just spoke at the weigh in after Lennon Jnr announced it. Said he felt like crying and sorry for the Welsh contingent that travelled over. Still a good card but I think if a fighter like Baros wastes his opponents, promoters and the fans time then he should have his licence revoked. How can you not get in shape for a world title fight with months of preparation? Disgrace
Steffan- Posts : 7856
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Absolutely devastated
Was the reason the weight? I didn't think they even weighed in
How far off was he?
Couldn't they go ahead at all they said license restrictions?
Man Selby needs to get back with hearn he is so inactive now
Clearly this isn't his fault but it's gonna be another 6 months...
Was the reason the weight? I didn't think they even weighed in
How far off was he?
Couldn't they go ahead at all they said license restrictions?
Man Selby needs to get back with hearn he is so inactive now
Clearly this isn't his fault but it's gonna be another 6 months...
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Steffan wrote:He just spoke at the weigh in after Lennon Jnr announced it. Said he felt like crying and sorry for the Welsh contingent that travelled over. Still a good card but I think if a fighter like Baros wastes his opponents, promoters and the fans time then he should have his licence revoked. How can you not get in shape for a world title fight with months of preparation? Disgrace
This post would be all well and good...Except as we all know... If Selby hadn't of made weight you'd be pointing at Fielding and Smith v Ward and moaning about double standards should anybody be talking about revoking Selby's licence..
The guy messed up...History shows it happens..Whilst I'm sorry for Team Selby and for the imposition of his followers...I'm not disappointed as I find him a bit of a stinker..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40654
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
BoxingFan88 wrote:Absolutely devastated
Was the reason the weight? I didn't think they even weighed in
How far off was he?
Couldn't they go ahead at all they said license restrictions?
Man Selby needs to get back with hearn he is so inactive now
Clearly this isn't his fault but it's gonna be another 6 months...
Blood tests results were inconclusive and he wasnt cleared to fight according to reports
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
That's the main thing sorted thenTRUSSMAN66 wrote:Whilst I'm sorry for Team Selby and for the imposition of his followers...I'm not disappointed as I find him a bit of a stinker..
I'd be the one disappointed if you were a Yank without a "Me...Me...Me" attitude
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Re: Frampton vs Santa Cruz Preview
Barros has been diagnosed as having hepatitis. Selby probably dodged a bullet
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