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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 12 Jan 2017, 2:18 pm

First topic message reminder :

I understand that some players haven't had a break for a while, but still, either it's a must-win game (with a bonus point) or it isn't.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Wed 10 May 2017, 10:30 am

wayne wrote:So basically, NOT even Newport RFC members were interested in the result of this exercise, just over a thousand were eligible to vote, and even with the chance to Postal Vote, Proxy Vote or attend on the night, only 429 could be bothered 351 voted Yes and 78 No.

So in reality the best  opportunity for survival of Regional Rugby in Gwent has been seized, let's now hope the rest of the County joins in.

Maybe their way way of abstaining since Newport RFC were shafted whatever the result. Also, the reporting on the matter leading up to the vote which leant heavily and unfairly on shareholders wasn't helpful. Been suggested on twitter that some felt pressured into voting yes and won't be supporting anymore. We'll see I spose.

Was also suggested on twitter that TB wanted to go, but they didn't want to let him in. You can't make it up mun.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Wed 10 May 2017, 12:00 pm

Stone Motif wrote:West, East, North by 2020.

I'm tending to agree at this moment in time until something persuades me otherwise.
With the East being based at new CAP, I spose.

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Post by geoff999rugby Wed 10 May 2017, 12:16 pm

Stone Motif wrote:West, East, North by 2020.

For that to happen wouldn't Scarlets and Ospreys have to join forces?

Cant see that happening

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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 May 2017, 3:36 pm

geoff999rugby wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:West, East, North by 2020.

For that to happen wouldn't Scarlets and Ospreys have to join forces?

Cant see that happening

Why?
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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 May 2017, 3:53 pm

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/sport/15276928.CHRIS_KIRWAN__No_room_for_excuses_now_that_Dragons_deal_has_the_green_light/

Good piece from Kirwan as per.
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Post by geoff999rugby Wed 10 May 2017, 6:14 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
geoff999rugby wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:West, East, North by 2020.

For that to happen wouldn't Scarlets and Ospreys have to join forces?

Cant see that happening

Why?

If I remember correctly there were great ructions in Swansea, Neath and Llanelli such that the 5 club breakdown that emerged was not the one we ended up with.
I seem to recall Llanelli were put in with one of the other two and raised merry hell.

Obviously there will be Welsh posters who will remember better than I do, but its seems it would just raise the old regional carve up animosity that occurred before

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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 May 2017, 6:17 pm

geoff999rugby wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
geoff999rugby wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:West, East, North by 2020.

For that to happen wouldn't Scarlets and Ospreys have to join forces?

Cant see that happening

Why?

If I remember correctly there were great ructions in Swansea, Neath and Llanelli such that the 5 club breakdown that emerged was not the one we ended up with.
I seem to recall Llanelli were put in with one of the other two and raised merry hell.

Obviously there will be Welsh posters who will remember better than I do, but its seems it would just raise the old regional carve up animosity that occurred before

Except this time, the Turks are skint and have no leverage with the WRU.
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Post by geoff999rugby Wed 10 May 2017, 7:39 pm

Interesting - they still wont like it though Smile

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Post by GavinDragon Wed 10 May 2017, 7:43 pm

3 years to make this work and avoid the biggest we told you so in Welsh rugby history.

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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 May 2017, 9:27 pm

geoff999rugby wrote:Interesting - they still wont like it though Smile

Market forces don't give a toss what Turks like.
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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 May 2017, 9:29 pm

GavinDragon wrote:3 years to make this work and avoid the biggest we told you so in Welsh rugby history.

Three years til we merge with Cardiff to form the East Wales super duper region
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Post by glamorganalun Wed 10 May 2017, 9:58 pm

Front Wayne so numbers only 35% of those eligible to vote , voted for the WRU take over hardly the the 75% for the motion to go through!

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Post by Stone Motif Wed 10 May 2017, 10:27 pm

glamorganalun wrote:Front Wayne so numbers only 35% of those eligible to vote , voted for the WRU take over hardly the the 75% for  the motion to go through!

It's 75% of those attending
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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu 11 May 2017, 6:21 am

GavinDragon wrote:3 years to make this work and avoid the biggest we told you so in Welsh rugby history.

We've had a few big ones already, over the years.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu 11 May 2017, 7:01 am

Stone Motif wrote:http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/sport/15276928.CHRIS_KIRWAN__No_room_for_excuses_now_that_Dragons_deal_has_the_green_light/

Good piece from Kirwan as per.

That myth again. I don't believe there are that many of these "folk" though. A few dozen possibly and is it true that compared to the Drags, Newport RFC had double the number of ST holders outside the walls prior to Dragonalism? Tells you something.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu 11 May 2017, 7:12 am

geoff999rugby wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:West, East, North by 2020.

For that to happen wouldn't Scarlets and Ospreys have to join forces?

Cant see that happening

Wouldn't "join forces" per se....
WRU takeover both. Announce that one aint working. Shut it down. Left with one, job done.
Something like that.

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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 8:31 am

Cardiff Dave wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/sport/15276928.CHRIS_KIRWAN__No_room_for_excuses_now_that_Dragons_deal_has_the_green_light/

Good piece from Kirwan as per.

That myth again. I don't believe there are that many of these "folk" though. A few dozen possibly and is it true that compared to the Drags, Newport RFC had double the number of ST holders outside the walls prior to Dragonalism? Tells you something.

Not really as it was 13 years ago.

I still think its a bit sad that middle aged men wont attend a game because the team have a word in their name they don't like or they don't like the colour.

Seems a very childish thing to get all worked up about.
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Post by Stone Motif Thu 11 May 2017, 9:27 am

munkian wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/sport/15276928.CHRIS_KIRWAN__No_room_for_excuses_now_that_Dragons_deal_has_the_green_light/

Good piece from Kirwan as per.

That myth again. I don't believe there are that many of these "folk" though. A few dozen possibly and is it true that compared to the Drags, Newport RFC had double the number of ST holders outside the walls prior to Dragonalism? Tells you something.

Not really as it was 13 years ago.

I still think its a bit sad that middle aged men wont attend a game because the team have a word in their name they don't like or they don't like the colour.

Seems a very childish thing to get all worked up about.

I agree. But equally silly when that silliness is used to dismiss very valid concerns about the way pro rugby has been run in our neck of the woods.
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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 10:02 am

Me and around 4 or 5 others on the North Terrace will be renewing ST anyway, including our mate from London who comes to the odd game.

If it is just 'Dragons' I'd really like a better logo - needs a big rebrand - the tail thing is awful.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 11 May 2017, 11:01 am

munkian wrote:Me and around 4 or 5 others on the North Terrace will be renewing ST anyway, including our mate from London who comes to the odd game.

If it is just 'Dragons' I'd really like a better logo - needs a big rebrand - the tail thing is awful.

Hear hear.

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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 11:05 am

Can we nick the Turk's logo ?
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 11 May 2017, 11:11 am

Will they look at jersey colours as well?

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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 11:23 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Will they look at jersey colours as well?

I'd want a new kit supplier entirely.
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Post by RiscaGame Thu 11 May 2017, 11:26 am

I have a feeling that nothing will change in the way of colour, sponsor and tail logo.

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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 11:36 am

RiscaGame wrote:I have a feeling that nothing will change in the way of colour, sponsor and tail logo.

I guess there are more pressing matters but this could draw new/old fans back.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 11 May 2017, 11:53 am

I just think a mainly black shirt isn't particularly distinctive.

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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 11:58 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I just think a mainly black shirt isn't particularly distinctive.

Especially as the Ospreys have something pretty much identical.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 11 May 2017, 11:59 am

And Edinburgh's is black and red.

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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 12:00 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:And Edinburgh's is black and red.

Very true.

Not a fan of blue though Wink
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Post by RiscaGame Thu 11 May 2017, 12:56 pm

Going to have to be green for a Dragon haha.

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Post by Guest Thu 11 May 2017, 1:36 pm

Hoops. I've always been a fan of hooped jerseys.

Western Stormers Blue and white hoops was my favourite back in the day.

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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 1:39 pm

Blue and black hoops maybe ? Old school monmouth colours Wink
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Post by Guest Thu 11 May 2017, 1:40 pm

This was my favourite Dragons jersey/colours. Worn my my favourite player here too! After this jersey it all went a bit boring.

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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 1:47 pm

Thats nasty.

Always liked this one myself, doesnt fit anymore though Whistle

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Post by Guest Thu 11 May 2017, 1:52 pm

Nasty?! I loved it. See, I find the one you like not so nice!

Hard to please everyone!

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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 1:55 pm

Griff wrote:Nasty?! I loved it. See, I find the one you like not so nice!

Hard to please everyone!

Decent Dragon's shirts are few and far between.

Bring back the dildo one !
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 11 May 2017, 2:09 pm

I don't see what's wrong with polka dots. Set a trend.

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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 2:12 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I don't see what's wrong with polka dots. Set a trend.

You sure Stade haven't done that already ?
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 11 May 2017, 2:14 pm

Yeah probably.

A new jersey is the least of our worries, but if the ownership and the name is changing, they might want to tweak the shirt a bit too.

I'd be happy for our away shirt of the last few seasons become our home shirt.

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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 2:18 pm

But but but...its blue ?
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 11 May 2017, 2:20 pm

It's not Blues blue, though, is it? It's more Stormers blue. OK

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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 2:29 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:It's not Blues blue, though, is it? It's more Stormers blue. OK

We should nick the blue and black hoops before the WRU rebrands them.
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Post by RiscaGame Thu 11 May 2017, 3:05 pm

Oh heck. Blue and Black hoops would definitely get the natives restless. We were already "copying Cardiff" with a completely different Blue.

I can't see the one shirt as it is blocked in work, but I think Munkian's was my favourite one until our current one came out. That said I didn't mind the one for the 15/16 season either, before they changed it to match the supporters' one.

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Post by TightHEAD Thu 11 May 2017, 3:05 pm

Never realized the logo was a dragons bottom. how ironic! Laugh
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Post by munkian Thu 11 May 2017, 3:06 pm

I have a golden yellow version away shirt that's nice too - not so 'shiny cycling top like' and has a collar.
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Post by TightHEAD Thu 11 May 2017, 3:16 pm

Things of beauty!

http://www.oldrugbyshirts.com/en/teams/n/newport-gwent-dragons/shirts-t93.html
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Post by Stone Motif Thu 11 May 2017, 5:58 pm

TightHEAD wrote:Never realized the logo was a dragons bottom. how ironic! Laugh

Mock not the barbed c6ck of Satan, mortal.
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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu 11 May 2017, 8:36 pm

munkian wrote:
Griff wrote:Nasty?! I loved it. See, I find the one you like not so nice!

Hard to please everyone!

Decent Dragon's shirts are few and far between.

Bring back the dildo one !

Would be appropriate, I spose.


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Post by GavinDragon Thu 11 May 2017, 9:44 pm

Shirt designs are already locked in for next season. Home colours will remain the same, although I imagine we will have just the tail logo, much like the away kit does now.

My favourite is this year's blue, Gwent blue, although I did like the blue and black one from a couple of years back.

I suppose branding could (and I don't know anything, just supposing) be up for grabs moving forward....depends on our new owners.

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Post by munkian Fri 12 May 2017, 7:40 am

Wonder if the WRU logo will be there actually ?
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