Grass court season
+15
MrInvisible
Mad for Chelsea
slashermcguirk
dummy_half
Belovedluckyboy
CaledonianCraig
lags72
Haddie-nuff
Born Slippy
banbrotam
naxroy
sirfredperry
Guest82
Henman Bill
Nathaniel Jacobs
19 posters
The v2 Forum :: Sport :: Tennis
Page 1 of 3
Page 1 of 3 • 1, 2, 3
Grass court season
Stuttgart kicked off today, bloke by the name of Roger Federer(rocking a new hair do) is playing.
Stan Wawrinka has added Paul Annacone to his coaching group, as he continues to search for improvements on grass. Will his morale be badly affected by the drubbing he received in Paris?
Will Andy Murray defend his Wimbledon championship?
Will the real Djokovic ever return?
Will Nadal do anything on grass?
Will a youngster steal the limelight?
Stan Wawrinka has added Paul Annacone to his coaching group, as he continues to search for improvements on grass. Will his morale be badly affected by the drubbing he received in Paris?
Will Andy Murray defend his Wimbledon championship?
Will the real Djokovic ever return?
Will Nadal do anything on grass?
Will a youngster steal the limelight?
Last edited by Nathaniel Jacobs on Mon 12 Jun 2017, 6:21 pm; edited 1 time in total
Nathaniel Jacobs- Posts : 1936
Join date : 2016-12-17
Re: Grass court season
This week Stuttgart and Hertogenbosch.
Next week Queens and Halle.
Eastbourne and Turkey (new tournament) 26th June - July 1st.
Wimbledon is July 3rd-July 16th. That's a week or two later than some years in the past. Play will need to stop for bad light about 5-10 minutes earlier than for past Wimbledons. Not a huge deal.
Next week Queens and Halle.
Eastbourne and Turkey (new tournament) 26th June - July 1st.
Wimbledon is July 3rd-July 16th. That's a week or two later than some years in the past. Play will need to stop for bad light about 5-10 minutes earlier than for past Wimbledons. Not a huge deal.
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
Stuttgart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_MercedesCup
Top Seeds: Federer, Dimitrov, Berdych
Tommy Haas has a wilcard and will play Federer if he wins his first match
Hertogenbosch
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/s-hertogenbosch/440/top-seeds
Top Seeds: Cilic, Zverev, Karlovic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_MercedesCup
Top Seeds: Federer, Dimitrov, Berdych
Tommy Haas has a wilcard and will play Federer if he wins his first match
Hertogenbosch
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/s-hertogenbosch/440/top-seeds
Top Seeds: Cilic, Zverev, Karlovic
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
Week of June 19th-25th
Queens
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Aegon_Championships
Top Seeds: Murray,Nadal, Stan, Raonic, Cilic, Tsonga, Dimitrov, Berdych
Wildcards for Evans and Edmund
Halle
https://www.gerryweber-open.de/en/tournament/players/singles/
Top Seeds: Federer, Thiem, Nishikori, Zverev, Monfils
Also notable: Gasquet, Kohlschreiber, Tommy Haas.
So it looks like Federer will play 2 events before Wimbledon,Nadal and Murray 1, and Djokovic and Nadal zero - as usual. I do wonder whether that could change this year after this early exit at the French Open as well as reduced matches throughout the clay season vs normal.
Queens
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Aegon_Championships
Top Seeds: Murray,
Wildcards for Evans and Edmund
Halle
https://www.gerryweber-open.de/en/tournament/players/singles/
Top Seeds: Federer, Thiem, Nishikori, Zverev, Monfils
Also notable: Gasquet, Kohlschreiber, Tommy Haas.
So it looks like Federer will play 2 events before Wimbledon,
Last edited by Henman Bill on Wed 14 Jun 2017, 8:08 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Updating after Nadal withdrawal from Queens)
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
Dan Evans injured his calf in a challenger over the weekend. I read on Twitter that he couldn't walk off the court, so I am guessing he is a doubt for Queens and possibly even Wimbledon.
Guest82- Posts : 1075
Join date : 2011-06-18
Re: Grass court season
Week of June 25th-July 1st
Eastbourne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Aegon_International_Eastbourne
Seeds: Djokovic, Monfils, Isner, Johnson, Muller, Querrey, Mischa Zverev, Gasquet.
Antalya, Turkey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Antalya_Open
Seeds: Thiem, Verdasco, Lorenzi, Khachanov, Troicki, Kilizan, Coric, Basilashvili.
Eastbourne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Aegon_International_Eastbourne
Seeds: Djokovic, Monfils, Isner, Johnson, Muller, Querrey, Mischa Zverev, Gasquet.
Antalya, Turkey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Antalya_Open
Seeds: Thiem, Verdasco, Lorenzi, Khachanov, Troicki, Kilizan, Coric, Basilashvili.
Last edited by Henman Bill on Wed 21 Jun 2017, 6:44 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Updated list of seeds for Eastbourne on 21st June after Djokovic confirmed entry)
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
Not sure if it would be wise for Djoko to skip the grass-court season (or should that be seadon - please correct your headline Nathaniel).
The Serb has few points to defend and we saw with Murray at the French how a couple of wins can galvanise a season.
I expect Fed to do well at Stuttgart and, I assume, Halle which should put him in a good position for Wimbledon.
The Serb has few points to defend and we saw with Murray at the French how a couple of wins can galvanise a season.
I expect Fed to do well at Stuttgart and, I assume, Halle which should put him in a good position for Wimbledon.
sirfredperry- Posts : 7023
Join date : 2011-02-14
Age : 74
Location : London
Re: Grass court season
Haas interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85AQdcouXdk
1.5 minute
His career is winding down.
He won in the doubles yesterday and is currently playing in the singles against Herbert, and won the first set.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85AQdcouXdk
1.5 minute
His career is winding down.
He won in the doubles yesterday and is currently playing in the singles against Herbert, and won the first set.
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
39 year old Tommy Haas wins 7-5 in hte third.
Looking at his record this year (calendar 2017), it's pretty consistent.
He is:
1-8 against top 60 players (including 0-4 against top 30 players)
4-0 against players ranked over 60 (including today's result)
Overall 5-8
He is playing like he ought to be ranked around 60, but his ranking is at 303, as he didn't play last year, so he is relying on wild cards.
So, Federer vs Haas next.
Looking at his record this year (calendar 2017), it's pretty consistent.
He is:
1-8 against top 60 players (including 0-4 against top 30 players)
4-0 against players ranked over 60 (including today's result)
Overall 5-8
He is playing like he ought to be ranked around 60, but his ranking is at 303, as he didn't play last year, so he is relying on wild cards.
So, Federer vs Haas next.
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
nadal wont enter Queens
no good news for his wimbledon chances
no good news for his wimbledon chances
naxroy- Posts : 622
Join date : 2011-06-28
Re: Grass court season
Rafa not playing Queens: He hardly extended himself at RG so he probably fancies a quick holiday. Still think he'll do well at Wimbledon. He's certainly due a decent SW19 year.
Fed v Haas today should be good.
Fed v Haas today should be good.
sirfredperry- Posts : 7023
Join date : 2011-02-14
Age : 74
Location : London
Re: Grass court season
seeing that he is more in risk in the first week, I think it would have been better for him to play some more on grass prior to that first week in wimbly
and if he wasnt streched to his limits in RG more reason to not make a break
I really fear its worse than a simple chosen vacation
and if he wasnt streched to his limits in RG more reason to not make a break
I really fear its worse than a simple chosen vacation
naxroy- Posts : 622
Join date : 2011-06-28
Re: Grass court season
naxroy wrote:seeing that he is more in risk in the first week, I think it would have been better for him to play some more on grass prior to that first week in wimbly
and if he wasnt streched to his limits in RG more reason to not make a break
I really fear its worse than a simple chosen vacation
I think he played a lot during the clay season - won pretty much everything too. Physically and mentally that is quite some effort, even if RG was easier than it could have been.
Might be a smart move to take all the rest he can get too. I'd think he has more chance of winning USO than Wimbledon so may be saving himself for hardcourts is a better move.
Guest82- Posts : 1075
Join date : 2011-06-18
Re: Grass court season
Rafa's post 2011grass court form is reminiscent to the pre-2015 clay court form of Murray
Hence, I've know idea, why anyone thinks he will win - unless it's cold but dry for two weeks
His form at RG, particularly the final was absolutely amazing and I have a lot of time for him, but he ain't going to be getting high bouncing slow balls at Wimby and it is those type of balls that enabled the brilliant cross court forehands and backhands he was hitting
Hence, I've know idea, why anyone thinks he will win - unless it's cold but dry for two weeks
His form at RG, particularly the final was absolutely amazing and I have a lot of time for him, but he ain't going to be getting high bouncing slow balls at Wimby and it is those type of balls that enabled the brilliant cross court forehands and backhands he was hitting
banbrotam- Posts : 3374
Join date : 2011-09-22
Age : 62
Location : Oakes, Huddersfield - West Yorkshire
Re: Grass court season
Yep, good win for the 39 year old against the youngster.
Born Slippy- Posts : 4464
Join date : 2012-05-05
Re: Grass court season
If Rafa can arrange a few private practice matches against top 30 players on grass that should help compensate for missing Queens, which sounds like a smart decision to me.
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
Surprised Federer lost. Obviously the lack of match practice was not working in his favour but I thought the match would be close but he'd still have too much. I think that could be the first time Tommy Haas has won two matches in a row this season.
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
Three time Wimbledon champion Novak Djokovic looking like he's taking a wildcard for Eastbourne
Nathaniel Jacobs- Posts : 1936
Join date : 2016-12-17
Re: Grass court season
Henman Bill wrote:If Rafa can arrange a few private practice matches against top 30 players on grass that should help compensate for missing Queens, which sounds like a smart decision to me.
Not too sure that Rafa is too confident about the grass court season as he says in this report
https://rafaelnadalfans.com/
Haddie-nuff- Posts : 6936
Join date : 2011-02-27
Location : Returned to Spain
Re: Grass court season
Rafa almost always downplays his chances so that doesn't mean a lot.
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
mmmm not so sure on this occasion
![Cool](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_cool.gif)
Haddie-nuff- Posts : 6936
Join date : 2011-02-27
Location : Returned to Spain
Re: Grass court season
Had a funny feeling when Haas edged out Fed in 3 sets the other day that it was a brief 'moment-in-the-sun' for him ..... impressively rolling back the years to take advantage of a rusty Fed. Stopped in his tracks this afternoon though, with a loss in straights to Mischa Zverev.
As to Rafa's prospects for Wimbledon ..... methinks the signs really are very good.
As to Rafa's prospects for Wimbledon ..... methinks the signs really are very good.
lags72- Posts : 5018
Join date : 2011-11-07
Re: Grass court season
Top seeds Cilic, Zverev, Karlovic, Muller all get to the semis at Hertogenbosch.
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
lags72 wrote:Had a funny feeling when Haas edged out Fed in 3 sets the other day that it was a brief 'moment-in-the-sun' for him ..... impressively rolling back the years to take advantage of a rusty Fed. Stopped in his tracks this afternoon though, with a loss in straights to Mischa Zverev.
As to Rafa's prospects for Wimbledon ..... methinks the signs really are very good.
So it seems you have more faith in his knees than he does. so why is he not playing Queens which he loves ?
![Rolling Eyes](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Haddie-nuff- Posts : 6936
Join date : 2011-02-27
Location : Returned to Spain
Re: Grass court season
I obviously don't have a hot line to him H-n ..... but am just thinking he perhaps feels an extended break after the long clay swing, involving many matches (even if many were fairly swift affairs), will see him properly reinvigorated for a serious tilt at Wimbledon.
lags72- Posts : 5018
Join date : 2011-11-07
Re: Grass court season
Stuttgart QF
Lopez bt Berdych
Pouille bt Kohlschreiber
Mischa Zverev bt Haas
Paire bt Janowicz
Lopez bt Berdych
Pouille bt Kohlschreiber
Mischa Zverev bt Haas
Paire bt Janowicz
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
lags72 wrote:I obviously don't have a hot line to him H-n ..... but am just thinking he perhaps feels an extended break after the long clay swing, involving many matches (even if many were fairly swift affairs), will see him properly reinvigorated for a serious tilt at Wimbledon.
I have to disagree. Rafa will go into Wimbledon (a surface he has struggled on for five years) playing his first grass court match for two years. Hardly, grounds to say he'll have a serious tilt at Wimbledon.
CaledonianCraig- Posts : 20601
Join date : 2011-05-31
Age : 55
Location : Edinburgh
Re: Grass court season
Rafa has that curious Wimbledon record of 5 finals in a row then 4 early round defeats in a row.
Does he take a while to get into grass meaning he usually either loses early while still not adjusted, or gets to the final? Consistent with his record, but maybe I'm just trying to fit a story to the facts after the fact.
Or have his knees just not been the same since 2011? This could be a factor.
Does he take a while to get into grass meaning he usually either loses early while still not adjusted, or gets to the final? Consistent with his record, but maybe I'm just trying to fit a story to the facts after the fact.
Or have his knees just not been the same since 2011? This could be a factor.
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
lags72 wrote:I obviously don't have a hot line to him H-n ..... but am just thinking he perhaps feels an extended break after the long clay swing, involving many matches (even if many were fairly swift affairs), will see him properly reinvigorated for a serious tilt at Wimbledon.
Then lags you have not read the article I posted he is concerned that whilst he loves to play grass it affects his knees .. why risk it
Haddie-nuff- Posts : 6936
Join date : 2011-02-27
Location : Returned to Spain
Re: Grass court season
Quite interesting to compare Rafa's Wimbledon results when he did not play (DNP) at Queens (italics) with the years he did (bold).
The evidence suggests Rafa does better at Wimbledon in the years when he plays Queens. He has never even once skipped Queens and even reached the QF at Wimbledon.
(I believe most of the years he DNP Queens was because he played no grass warm up tournament. If anyone knows of any other grass tournaments he played between FO and Wimbledon other than Queens let me know and I can update.)
2005 Queens DNP Wimbledon R2
2006 Queens QF Wimbledon F
2007 Queens QF Wimbledon F
2008 Queens W Wimbledon W
2009 Queens DNP Wimbledon DNP
2010 Queens QF Wimbledon W
2011 Queens QF Wimbledon F
2012 Queens DNP Wimbledon R2
2013 Queens DNP Wimbledon R1
2014 Queens DNP Wimbledon R4
2015 Queens R1 Wimbledon R2
2016 Queens DNP Wimbledon DNP
I think it's reasonable at the moment to say that Rafa is slightly behind in the favourites list, perhaps 4th or 5th. With a good draw and no-one hitting a hot streak against him, he does have a chance of winning, but you fancy he would also need to avoid the other big 4 finding their mojo.
The evidence suggests Rafa does better at Wimbledon in the years when he plays Queens. He has never even once skipped Queens and even reached the QF at Wimbledon.
(I believe most of the years he DNP Queens was because he played no grass warm up tournament. If anyone knows of any other grass tournaments he played between FO and Wimbledon other than Queens let me know and I can update.)
2005 Queens DNP Wimbledon R2
2006 Queens QF Wimbledon F
2007 Queens QF Wimbledon F
2008 Queens W Wimbledon W
2009 Queens DNP Wimbledon DNP
2010 Queens QF Wimbledon W
2011 Queens QF Wimbledon F
2012 Queens DNP Wimbledon R2
2013 Queens DNP Wimbledon R1
2014 Queens DNP Wimbledon R4
2015 Queens R1 Wimbledon R2
2016 Queens DNP Wimbledon DNP
I think it's reasonable at the moment to say that Rafa is slightly behind in the favourites list, perhaps 4th or 5th. With a good draw and no-one hitting a hot streak against him, he does have a chance of winning, but you fancy he would also need to avoid the other big 4 finding their mojo.
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
Rafa played at Halle instead of Queens in 2012 (reached QF, lost to Kohlschreiber, and 2014 lost to Brown in first match). In 2013 he didn't play any warm up event before Wimbledon. In 2015 he played and won at Stuggart(beatingvTroicki) before playing (and lost) in first match at Queens to Diogo.
I don't think it's a matter of him playing at Queens or not, it's a matter of how his knees hold up. He's resting now and then will start practicing on grass next week in Mallorca (at the WTA Mallorca Open venue), unlike in the past where he couldn't practice back home as they didn't have a grass court back then. After that, he may play an exho, at Boodles perhaps; so he's giving himself time to adapt to the grass surface. I think it's a good arrangement this way, than to rush to Queens without proper rest and training, and then lose in R1 or R2.
I don't think it's a matter of him playing at Queens or not, it's a matter of how his knees hold up. He's resting now and then will start practicing on grass next week in Mallorca (at the WTA Mallorca Open venue), unlike in the past where he couldn't practice back home as they didn't have a grass court back then. After that, he may play an exho, at Boodles perhaps; so he's giving himself time to adapt to the grass surface. I think it's a good arrangement this way, than to rush to Queens without proper rest and training, and then lose in R1 or R2.
Belovedluckyboy- Posts : 1389
Join date : 2015-01-30
Re: Grass court season
Well you and I read his FB somewhat differently it seems
Haddie-nuff- Posts : 6936
Join date : 2011-02-27
Location : Returned to Spain
Re: Grass court season
Is the grass court game more demanding on the knees? Uneven bounce and low bounce skidding balls? Also a bit of moisture and the surface can become slippery. Also when there is a variable wear on the court - especially around the baseline - you get areas of grass and areas of dirt. Everything points to more use of the knees in body adjustment.
Guest- Guest
Re: Grass court season
Well precisely and that is what he basically refers to in the article I posted..It is more demanding and in view of the very successful clay court season he has had I'm not sure I blame him for being overly cautious if that's the case.
Haddie-nuff- Posts : 6936
Join date : 2011-02-27
Location : Returned to Spain
Re: Grass court season
Rafa mentioned in the said article, that if he's healthy and has the right preparation and feeling healthy during Wimbledon, he will probably have his chances of playing well there. So, the important thing is he is healthy (that includes his knees in good conditions of course). He's cautious not to stress his knees any further after the clay season his has, so I think it's wise if him not to rush to play at Queens, but to let himself rest and then starts training on grass.
Belovedluckyboy- Posts : 1389
Join date : 2015-01-30
Re: Grass court season
With that much I agree.. it would be really unwise to risk damaging his knees again.. but whatever he does not seem confident that he will have a repeat performance of his clay successes. It would be sad to see him go out early again at Wimbledon and hardly a confidence boost for him. So it remains to be seen if he feels he is genuinely healthy enough and what he considers the risk factor to be
Haddie-nuff- Posts : 6936
Join date : 2011-02-27
Location : Returned to Spain
Re: Grass court season
Jo Konta could well win Nottingham. She's through to the semis and will meet an unseeded player today.
Edgbaston women's tournament, which - shamefully - gave Sharapova a WC, is now not featuring Sharapova nor a host of others, all missing for various reasons.
Dan Evans and delpo are out of Queen's, with the former in danger of missing Wimbledon.
Later: Konta through to final after straight-sets win. F Lopez makes the Stuttgart final.
Edgbaston women's tournament, which - shamefully - gave Sharapova a WC, is now not featuring Sharapova nor a host of others, all missing for various reasons.
Dan Evans and delpo are out of Queen's, with the former in danger of missing Wimbledon.
Later: Konta through to final after straight-sets win. F Lopez makes the Stuttgart final.
sirfredperry- Posts : 7023
Join date : 2011-02-14
Age : 74
Location : London
Re: Grass court season
Murray will take on Bedene in the first round of Queen's. Tough draw after that, with Andy meeting, possibly, Querrey, J-W T and Cilic.
Fed's got a kinder draw at Halle and should get some wins after exiting to Haas this week.
Fed's got a kinder draw at Halle and should get some wins after exiting to Haas this week.
sirfredperry- Posts : 7023
Join date : 2011-02-14
Age : 74
Location : London
Re: Grass court season
Belovedluckyboy wrote:Rafa played at Halle instead of Queens in 2012 (reached QF, lost to Kohlschreiber, and 2014 lost to Brown in first match). In 2013 he didn't play any warm up event before Wimbledon. In 2015 he played and won at Stuggart(beatingvTroicki) before playing (and lost) in first match at Queens to Diogo.
Thanks blb, so there is a strong correlation between playing Queens and doing well at Wimbledon, but, adding the other tournaments, little correlation between whether he does better having played any warm up tournament. That possibly points to the Queens correlation being coincidental. Unless there is something specific about Queens that helps him prepare better, which is possible, but somewhat fanciful.
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
Correlation doesn't imply causation. An alternate view is simply that after 2011 the cumulative effect of knee damage and surgery limited his capabilities on grass. In 2005 he was still a callow youth on non-clay surface. 2004: AO through to USO: 3R A A 2R. 2005 AO through to USO: 4R W 2R 3R. This theorem also better explains the 2015 result when he did play at Queens.Henman Bill wrote:The evidence suggests Rafa does better at Wimbledon in the years when he plays Queens. ...
2005 Queens DNP Wimbledon R2
2006 Queens QF Wimbledon F
2007 Queens QF Wimbledon F
2008 Queens W Wimbledon W
2009 Queens DNP Wimbledon DNP
2010 Queens QF Wimbledon W
2011 Queens QF Wimbledon F
2012 Queens DNP Wimbledon R2
2013 Queens DNP Wimbledon R1
2014 Queens DNP Wimbledon R4
2015 Queens R1 Wimbledon R2
2016 Queens DNP Wimbledon DNP
Guest- Guest
Re: Grass court season
I agree that correlation doesn't imply causation (in fact I think this should be taught in schools as it is such a common mistake in life), there could be another reason for the connection such as choosing not to play Queens in years when he was physically not in good condition or already lacking in confidence, in which case both the Queens results/DNPs and the Wimbledon results could be explained by such underlying reasons equally, rather than one causing the other.
Or alternatively it may all be coincidence, as your other theory works equally well.
Or alternatively it may all be coincidence, as your other theory works equally well.
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
Tight matches at Stuttgart, any one of the four semi finalists could have won the title. Tight matches with 7-5 7-6 sets and deciding sets.
Lopez beat Mischa Zverev
Pouille beat Benoit Paire
Pouille beat Lopez
Lopez beat Mischa Zverev
Pouille beat Benoit Paire
Pouille beat Lopez
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
Similar story at Hertogenbosch with closely matched semi finalists.
Karlovic bt Cilic
Muller bt Zverev
Muller bt Karlovic 7-6 7-6 - no break points in the match and Muller only lost 7 points on serve in the whole match!
Karlovic bt Cilic
Muller bt Zverev
Muller bt Karlovic 7-6 7-6 - no break points in the match and Muller only lost 7 points on serve in the whole match!
Henman Bill- Posts : 5265
Join date : 2011-12-04
Re: Grass court season
Henman Bill wrote:Similar story at Hertogenbosch with closely matched semi finalists.
Karlovic bt Cilic
Muller bt Zverev
Muller bt Karlovic 7-6 7-6 - no break points in the match and Muller only lost 7 points on serve in the whole match!
Should have been down the bookies for that scoreline
![Very Happy](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png)
dummy_half- Posts : 6442
Join date : 2011-03-11
Age : 52
Location : East Hertfordshire
Re: Grass court season
Murray and Federer in action today. Murray has a tough draw at Queen's. Pity from a GB point of view that Edmund went out yesterday.
sirfredperry- Posts : 7023
Join date : 2011-02-14
Age : 74
Location : London
Re: Grass court season
it will be very interesting to see how Nadal does at Wimbledon this year. He won the French open with such ease and will be so much better rested this time around. Its hard to know why he has struggled so much at Wimbledon since 2012 given how good his record was up until that point.
I have a feeling we will see a better and more confident Nadal this time around (if he can get through the early round unscathed). You would have to think if he could somehow get to round 4 or QF his confidence will rise and he will become a real threat.
For me Federer is the favourite with Murray a close 2nd. Nadal is the only other player I can see threatening. There has been talk of Novak entering Eastbourne but I wonder is he better off sitting Wimbledon out to recharge his batteries. There is no chance he is going to win Wimbledon this year and I reckon he knows that too. I think Federer made the right decision to skip the French and I think Novak might be wise to do likewise at Wimbledon. Pains me to say that as a fan but taking another beating at Wimbledon is not going to do him and his confidence any good
I have a feeling we will see a better and more confident Nadal this time around (if he can get through the early round unscathed). You would have to think if he could somehow get to round 4 or QF his confidence will rise and he will become a real threat.
For me Federer is the favourite with Murray a close 2nd. Nadal is the only other player I can see threatening. There has been talk of Novak entering Eastbourne but I wonder is he better off sitting Wimbledon out to recharge his batteries. There is no chance he is going to win Wimbledon this year and I reckon he knows that too. I think Federer made the right decision to skip the French and I think Novak might be wise to do likewise at Wimbledon. Pains me to say that as a fan but taking another beating at Wimbledon is not going to do him and his confidence any good
slashermcguirk- Posts : 1380
Join date : 2011-05-31
Re: Grass court season
Lovely gesture by Andy Murray. He is to donate his prize money at Queen's to those affected by the Grenfell Tower Disaster.
CaledonianCraig- Posts : 20601
Join date : 2011-05-31
Age : 55
Location : Edinburgh
Re: Grass court season
That is a nice touch by Murray. Hats off to him!
slashermcguirk- Posts : 1380
Join date : 2011-05-31
Re: Grass court season
![clap](/users/3014/26/22/82/smiles/1710857839.gif)
Haddie-nuff- Posts : 6936
Join date : 2011-02-27
Location : Returned to Spain
Page 1 of 3 • 1, 2, 3
![-](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif)
» Grass court season
» Grass Court season
» The Grass-court Season - the run up to Wimbledon 2019
» Summer 2018 Grass Court Season
» Grass Court Season Running up to Wimbledon 2023
» Grass Court season
» The Grass-court Season - the run up to Wimbledon 2019
» Summer 2018 Grass Court Season
» Grass Court Season Running up to Wimbledon 2023
The v2 Forum :: Sport :: Tennis
Page 1 of 3
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum