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ERCC Pool 3: Glasgow Warriors v Leinster Rugby, 21 October

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Post by George Carlin Tue 17 Oct 2017, 7:43 am

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Glasgow Warriors v Leinster Rugby
Saturday 21 October 2017
KO 19:45
Chateau Soapdodger, Glasgow

BT Sport / beIN Sports

Referee: Jerome Garces (France)
Assistant Referees: {tbc}
Citing Commissioner: {tbc}
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A. Head to Head

6 Played 6
1 Wins 5
5 Losses 1
0 Draws 0
117 Points 201

B. Euro Form

14/10/17 - Chiefs 24 - 15 Glasgow
2/4/17 - Saracens 38 - 13 Glasgow
21/1/17 - Tigers 0 - 43 Glasgow

14/10/17 - Leinster 24 - 17 Montpellier
23/4/17 - ASM Clermont 27 - 22 Leinster
1/4/17 - Leinster 32 - 17 Wasps

C. Teams

Glasgow Warriors 
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Post by BigGee Tue 17 Oct 2017, 9:03 am

The old cliché of 'the must win game' for Glasgow. Though not strictly true it would be very hard to imagine us winning away in both Montpellier and Dublin, so you would have to say we need to win this to progress.

In that though, nothing much has changed, as this was a game we were always going to have to win and it is undoubtedly winnable, Leinster as a side don't seem to have fired on all cylinders yet either and have also got their injury issues.

I would expect a few gentle changes to the side for this weekend. It has been strongly hinted that Hoggy will be back and it would not surprise me to see Sarto playing as well, he was the unlucky one to miss out last time. Niko's mistake may have played him off the bench though. The centre combos did not quite seem right either and Grigg did not have his best day ball in hand, maybe Johnson starts this time at 13.

Up front you would imagine Brown is out, so Turner will start and McArthur to bench. Otherwise, baring injuries, I don't see to many changes, maybe Fagerson to bench for a bit of x factor laster on in the game.


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Post by RDW Tue 17 Oct 2017, 9:07 am

I was wondering if we'll see Big Brian replace Swinson for extra grunt in the pack - Swinson has played most games this season too so it would freshen things up a bit.

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Post by RDW Tue 17 Oct 2017, 4:09 pm

Hogg is due to return

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/41656077

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Wed 18 Oct 2017, 12:50 pm

If the weather holds up this will be a cracker. There is a lot on the line here!

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Post by BigGee Wed 18 Oct 2017, 1:20 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:If the weather holds up this will be a cracker. There is a lot on the line here!

There is indeed. How many of your walking wounded are we likely to see back for this one?

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Wed 18 Oct 2017, 2:43 pm

BigGee wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:If the weather holds up this will be a cracker. There is a lot on the line here!

There is indeed. How many of your walking wounded are we likely to see back for this one?
There are reports of SOB, Sexton, Isa and Fardy being available for this weekend. Hopefully that's true, they're badly needed

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Post by Hazel Sapling Wed 18 Oct 2017, 3:59 pm

For a moment I thought Facundo Isa had signed for you!

What sort of team are Leinster expected to put out? Is Isa in the starting 15?

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Wed 18 Oct 2017, 4:33 pm

Hazel Sapling wrote:For a moment I thought Facundo Isa had signed for you!

What sort of team are Leinster expected to put out? Is Isa in the starting 15?
He has been starting at 12 this season and has been very good there but has spent most of this season injured.

With everyone available I'd like to see:
1. McGrath
2. Cronin
3. Furlong
4. Toner
5. Fardy
6. SOB
7. Van De Flier
8. Conan
9. McGrath
10. Sexton
11. Daly
12. Nacewa
13. Henshaw
14. Byrne
15. Carbery

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Post by Hazel Sapling Wed 18 Oct 2017, 9:52 pm

That pack is scary. The back row in particular. The backs are good but I would back Glasgow to have an advantage there.

What happened to the young 12 (Reid?)? Has he not kicked on?

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Post by Don Alfonso Wed 18 Oct 2017, 10:21 pm

Reid is 27. He's just not great.

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Post by rodders Thu 19 Oct 2017, 10:47 am

Reid is liability in defense.

Leinster have some serious talent right now though, there is a real youthfulness about their team.
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Post by Pot Hale Thu 19 Oct 2017, 10:15 pm

I’m liking O’Loughlin in midfield more than Reid.
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Post by BigGee Fri 20 Oct 2017, 8:54 am

Looks like the weather may well have a say in this game, rain and wind forecast all afternoon in Glasgow.

Not the conditions Glasgow would have preferred, but it won't make it easy for either side.

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Post by RDW Fri 20 Oct 2017, 8:58 am

BigGee wrote:Looks like the weather may well have a say in this game, rain and wind forecast all afternoon in Glasgow.

Not the conditions Glasgow would have preferred, but it won't make it easy for either side.

BBC has it dry with light rain starting at 9pm, getting heavier throughout the night.

Being Glasgow though anything could happen and it will probably change several times between now and kickoff!

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Post by Stewie15 Fri 20 Oct 2017, 9:21 am

Apparently this is the Leinster team:

1. Cian Healy
2. Sean Cronin
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. Scott Fardy
5. Devin Toner
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Josh Van Der Flier
8. Jack Conan
9. Luke McGrath
10. Jonathan Sexton
11. Barry Daly
12. Noel Reid
13. Robbie Henshaw
14. Fergus McFadden
15. Joey Carbery

16. James Tracy
17. Jack McGrath
18. Michael Bent
19. James Ryan
20. Dan Leavy
21. Jamison Gibson-Park
22. Ross Byrne
23. Adam Byrne

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Post by BigGee Fri 20 Oct 2017, 9:27 am

Stewie15 wrote:Apparently this is the Leinster team:

1. Cian Healy
2. Sean Cronin
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. Scott Fardy
5. Devin Toner
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Josh Van Der Flier
8. Jack Conan
9. Luke McGrath
10. Jonathan Sexton
11. Barry Daly
12. Noel Reid
13. Robbie Henshaw
14. Fergus McFadden
15. Joey Carbery

16. James Tracy
17. Jack McGrath
18. Michael Bent
19. James Ryan
20. Dan Leavy
21. Jamison Gibson-Park
22. Ross Byrne
23. Adam Byrne

Looks weak!!

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Post by RDW Fri 20 Oct 2017, 9:32 am

To be fair, other than Sexton, Henshaw and perhaps Carbery you couldn't say that the backline was overly deadly, with the wingers not nearly as good as Glasgow's options.

Glasgow are going to have a real examination in the set piece though and (as always) that is likely where the game will be won and lost.

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Post by BigGee Fri 20 Oct 2017, 12:05 pm

Glasgow team out.

Hoggy back and Sarto in for Jones

Fraser Brown out injured as predicted.

15. Stuart Hogg (100) (31)

14. Tommy Seymour (105) (27)

13. Sam Johnson (30) (9)

12. Peter Horne (122) (20)

11. Leonardo Sarto (12) (8)

10. Finn Russell (69) (20)

9. Ali Price (48) (11)



1. Jamie Bhatti (13) (1)

2. George Turner (6) (1)

3. Zander Fagerson (56) (14)

4. Tim Swinson (104) (26)

5. Jonny Gray (75) (22)

6. Ryan Wilson (C) (133) (32)

7. Callum Gibbins (5) (1)

8. Adam Ashe (45) (7)



Replacements:



16. Pat MacArthur (159) (35)

17. Alex Allan (56) (15)

18. D’Arcy Rae (30) (3)

19. Scott Cummings (23) (2)

20. Rob Harley (167) (34)

21. Henry Pyrgos (132) (28)

22. Nick Grigg (27) (5)

23. Lee Jones (60) (26)



Unavailable players: Brian Alainu’uese (knee), Bobby Beattie (illness), Fraser Brown (knee), Alex Dunbar (knee), Chris Fusaro (head), Rory Hughes (shoulder), Oli Kebble (foot), Paddy Kelly (ankle), Kiran MacDonald (thigh), Ratu Tagive (achilles), Richie Vernon (achilles), Samuela Vunisa (knee).

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Post by Stewie15 Fri 20 Oct 2017, 12:08 pm

Stewie15 wrote:Apparently this is the Leinster team:

1. Cian Healy
2. Sean Cronin
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. Scott Fardy
5. Devin Toner
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Josh Van Der Flier
8. Jack Conan
9. Luke McGrath
10. Jonathan Sexton
11. Barry Daly
12. Noel Reid
13. Robbie Henshaw
14. Fergus McFadden
15. Joey Carbery

16. James Tracy
17. Jack McGrath
18. Michael Bent
19. James Ryan
20. Dan Leavy
21. Jamison Gibson-Park
22. Ross Byrne
23. Adam Byrne

1 away - Dave Kearney on the bench for Adam Byrne

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Fri 20 Oct 2017, 2:15 pm

BigGee wrote:Looks like the weather may well have a say in this game, rain and wind forecast all afternoon in Glasgow.

Not the conditions Glasgow would have preferred, but it won't make it easy for either side.
Glasgow should pray for good weather, they could really go after that Leinster backline

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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Fri 20 Oct 2017, 6:34 pm

Looks dry for game time so don't know what all the weather schieze is about Shocked This is not Galway you know ! Rolling Eyes
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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 20 Oct 2017, 8:12 pm

Great to see Hoggy back in action. Nice easy return to action to restore his confidence....

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Post by Engine#4 Sat 21 Oct 2017, 11:22 am

Leinster need another centre back from injury. Reid at 12 is worrying. Himself and Carberry are weak links defensively. Not much fear of the wingers. Mcfadden is better than he is given credit for and Daly is allegedly the quickest player in the country.

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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sat 21 Oct 2017, 11:45 am

Interesting to see how Sam Johnston goes at o/s centre. Really good rugby player and vastly underated imho.
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Post by jimbopip Sat 21 Oct 2017, 12:07 pm

He'll have his hands full with Henshaw. Our back three is superb, with Lee Jones waiting to come on too. Very Happy
We need 5 points though, and an Exeter win. That would make me happy.

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Post by RDW Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:18 pm

Anyone got a link?

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:21 pm

Glasgow lucky there, I thought Hogg was off-side

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:24 pm

That was never a late hit, would have been pissed if Sexton had milked that.

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Post by Tramptastic Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:26 pm

does anyone have a link they can mail me? much appreciated!

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Post by RDW Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:31 pm

Tramptastic wrote:does anyone have a link they can mail me? much appreciated!

Sent!

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Post by eirebilly Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:32 pm

Very hard and punishing game here. Great to see Hogg back thumbsup
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Post by cakeordeath Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:36 pm

Just ignoring high tackles now, Sexton tacked Cummings round the face

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:42 pm

Constant high tackles

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Post by eirebilly Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:46 pm

Ok the weather is not great but there is an astonishing amount of handling errors in this game.
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Post by cakeordeath Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:46 pm

Not a bad game so far, really surprised at how the Glasgow scrum is holding up

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:51 pm

And just as I say that we get destroyed

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Post by eirebilly Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:53 pm

Good signs for Leinster and Ireland that Cian Healy is back to form.
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Post by RDW Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:54 pm

Bad time to lose a try

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 21 Oct 2017, 1:57 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Bad time to lose a try

It had a certain inevitability about it

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:04 pm

Not enough strength up front for Glasgow.

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Post by RDW Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:12 pm

Glasgow once again bring ruthlessly targeted in the maul at this level!

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:13 pm

The usual non late hits from Glasgow. Looks like Leinster have decided to adopt Glasgow’s motto - Whatever It Takes - and respond in kind.

A few more handbags in the second half and a card for someone I’m going to guess.
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Post by cakeordeath Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:15 pm

Game over. Leinster have our number

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:16 pm

Those Sexton wraparounds are soooo predictable.
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Post by Pot Hale Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:21 pm

And they have on back. This game ain’t over yet.
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Post by RDW Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:23 pm

Impressive try from Glasgow - went through a lot of phases there and gradually worked their way up the pitch.

Game on?

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Post by eirebilly Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:29 pm

Easy missed tackle from Sexton but excellent commitment to track back, make the tackle and force the knock on.
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Post by eirebilly Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:33 pm

I swear that Sexton will dislocate his shoulder one day. The way he throws his arms in the air appealing for everything must take its toll one day...
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Post by Engine#4 Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:46 pm

Consistently getting tackled without he ball week in week out takes its toll too.

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