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ERCC Pool 3: Glasgow Warriors v Leinster Rugby, 21 October

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Post by George Carlin Tue 17 Oct 2017, 7:43 am

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Glasgow Warriors v Leinster Rugby
Saturday 21 October 2017
KO 19:45
Chateau Soapdodger, Glasgow

BT Sport / beIN Sports

Referee: Jerome Garces (France)
Assistant Referees: {tbc}
Citing Commissioner: {tbc}
TMO: {tbc}

A. Head to Head

6 Played 6
1 Wins 5
5 Losses 1
0 Draws 0
117 Points 201

B. Euro Form

14/10/17 - Chiefs 24 - 15 Glasgow
2/4/17 - Saracens 38 - 13 Glasgow
21/1/17 - Tigers 0 - 43 Glasgow

14/10/17 - Leinster 24 - 17 Montpellier
23/4/17 - ASM Clermont 27 - 22 Leinster
1/4/17 - Leinster 32 - 17 Wasps

C. Teams

Glasgow Warriors 
{tbc}

Leinster Rugby
{tbc}
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Post by eirebilly Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:49 pm

I am not denying he gets targeted Engine#4. He takes a lot of hits and fronts up every match. One of the things I admire a lot about him. I just think he is overly dramatic with his appealing for foul play.
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Post by Pot Hale Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:54 pm

Jeez. Poor Gibbons - that looks nasty.
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Post by eirebilly Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:55 pm

The TBP in for Leinster now. Well played by them and they are well in control of this pool.

Looks a bit glum for Glasgow now.
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Post by Pot Hale Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:55 pm

Noel Reid with a little mazy run gets the TBP.

Yes!
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Post by jimbopip Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:57 pm

Top marks to the Ladyboys, especially Furlong, you deserve it today. No arguments there.

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 21 Oct 2017, 2:57 pm

eirebilly wrote:I swear that Sexton will dislocate his shoulder one day. The way he throws his arms in the air appealing for everything must take its toll one day...

Hogg learning from him....
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Post by Pot Hale Sat 21 Oct 2017, 3:01 pm

Excellent away win for Leinster.

Commiserations Glasgow.
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Post by eirebilly Sat 21 Oct 2017, 3:01 pm

Well played Leinster, they are some team. I thought it was way too early for Leo Cullen to lead this side 18 months ago but he is doing an excellent job.

10 from a possible 10 from the first two games means Leinster will almost certainly come out of this group thumbsup
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Post by RDW Sat 21 Oct 2017, 3:03 pm

Damaging game for Glasgow, both in terms of the result and the number of injuries.

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 21 Oct 2017, 3:09 pm

Why was Fagerson still on the field for Leinster 4th try? Basically gifted Leinster the TBP.

Not enough muscle from Glasgow up front and not enough pace out wide.

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Post by RDW Sat 21 Oct 2017, 3:12 pm

VinceWLB wrote:Why was Fagerson still on the field for Leinster 4th try? Basically gifted Leinster the TBP.

Not enough muscle from Glasgow up front and not enough pace out wide.


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Hogg, Seymour and Sarto aren't exactly slow!

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 21 Oct 2017, 3:16 pm

ach well, congratulations Leinster. Just too good for us.

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 21 Oct 2017, 3:17 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:Why was Fagerson still on the field for Leinster 4th try? Basically gifted Leinster the TBP.

Not enough muscle from Glasgow up front and not enough pace out wide.


Headscratch

Hogg, Seymour and Sarto aren't exactly slow!

Apart from Hogg, none of them have blistering pace and that's what you need when you have your forwards getting bossed around as was the case today. Also, couldn't help but feel Horne isn't up to this level.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 21 Oct 2017, 3:25 pm

Actually thought that Horne played very well today.
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Post by BigGee Sat 21 Oct 2017, 5:56 pm

Another really frustrating game from Glasgow, Leinster are far to good a team to give a decent lead into a strong wind and expect to run it down in the second half.

We lost that game in the two minutes before half time when we went to sleep and gave away a scrum penalty and then a line out drive from way out to score their try. Up to that point our set piece had looked solid enough. We were never really in the game after that to be honest.

Leinster played a much smarter game and took their chances, we did not, for the second week running and that is why we won't be going through and you can't say that we deserve to either.

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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sat 21 Oct 2017, 11:55 pm

Crap from start to finish! Depressing really ! Not moving on at all.
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Post by George Carlin Sun 22 Oct 2017, 7:06 am

Didn't watch it as it was on too late but well done to Leinster.

Looked like a bit of a horror show from our perspective. We really need to shore up our tight five or we aren't going to be challenging for much this season.
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Post by RDW Sun 22 Oct 2017, 9:15 am

Apparently one Irish journalist said of Glasgow “It’s like trying to get your kids to concentrate on their homework!” and that is pretty accurate just now!

Glasgow look even more fast and loose under Rennie (stop sniggering in the back) than they were under Townsend, but the problem is they are lacking the end product. It's the old cliche that you have to earn the right to go forward, and Glasgow just aren't doing that ( not helped by the pack being humbled in both games).

Glasgow go for the miracle play every time and it just isn't working, and there are far too many knock ons and errors as a result.

Will Rennie alter his tactics for the next big games, or is it more of a problem in execution than game plan?

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Post by eirebilly Sun 22 Oct 2017, 9:29 am

RDW,

Rennie, like Cotter, like to bring as much pace into the game as possible. Rennie needs time to get the players to believe in the tactics and game plan. The base is there and I believe that Glasgow will get better and better.
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Post by RDW Sun 22 Oct 2017, 9:34 am

eirebilly - don't get me wrong I'm.all up for playing at pace but Glasgow are doing it with no solid foundation. That works against weaker teams but has been shown up at the highest level.

Problem is Glasgow have athletic but lightweight forwards and are lacking physicality up front. On one hand that means they're playing the right game plan, but you still need to fulfill the basics as a pack such as set piece and maul defence.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 22 Oct 2017, 9:38 am

That's why I said Rennie needs more time to get the Glasgow players believing in his system and game plan. The natural attacking game was already with Glasgow but they need that bit of time. One of my favourite teams to watch thumbsup
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