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Post by emack2 Tue 27 Feb 2018, 5:35 pm

What are the IRB ratings after last weekends games?

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Post by NeilyBroon Tue 27 Feb 2018, 5:51 pm

Scotland leapfrog Wales and SA to 5th

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Post by SecretFly Tue 27 Feb 2018, 6:00 pm

https://www.worldrugby.org/rankings/mru?lang=en

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Post by Guest Tue 27 Feb 2018, 7:25 pm

How many points did England lose for losing to the 7th ranked team? You’d expect their points to drop through the floor.

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Post by NeilyBroon Tue 27 Feb 2018, 7:32 pm

As it was away from home the teams are more level based on handicap.
I don't imagine it will have been huge

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Post by Scottrf Tue 27 Feb 2018, 7:33 pm

ebop wrote:How many points did England lose for losing to the 7th ranked team? You’d expect their points to drop through the floor.

1.47

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Post by Guest Tue 27 Feb 2018, 7:52 pm

Thanks Scottrf. I don’t follow the rankings closely but that seems a reasonable drop when at the pointy end of the table.

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Post by poissonrouge Tue 27 Feb 2018, 8:53 pm

There is a thread devoted to IRB rankings already (Stuck to the top) - has all the info you need including the likely changes depending on next game rounds.
PS. England dropped 1.49 pts - would have been 2 pts if they were at home.
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Post by Rugby Fan Tue 27 Feb 2018, 11:13 pm

This is an old site but still does the job of calculating changes in ranking points

http://www.lassen.co.nz/pagmisc.php

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Post by quinsforever Tue 27 Feb 2018, 11:17 pm

so how much is the home advantage worth generally? or specifically, how many points would england need to be ahead of ireland in irb rankings to lose and still remain ahead after the last 6n match (assuming their points havent changed in the round 4 game which is obviously not true).

purely mathematically interested.

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Post by rugby4cast Wed 28 Feb 2018, 2:20 am

Home advantage is worth an extra 3 ranking points for the purposes of the calculation.

Here's a few hypothetical scenarios for the next few rounds. If you want any more run just give me a shout.

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Post by quinsforever Wed 28 Feb 2018, 11:52 am

thank you! appreciate that.

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Post by robbo277 Wed 28 Feb 2018, 1:35 pm

From those scenarios, I'd say the World Rankings are doing their job.

If England beat France and Ireland and Ireland beat Scotland then you can say we're probably the best team in Europe and the second best team in the world, with 5 home wins and 3 away wins over a 2 year cycle (Ireland would have 5 and 2).

If Ireland get the Grand Slam they deserve to be second, they'll have a 5 and 3 vs our 4 and 2/3 (depending on the France result).

If Scotland carry on making waves and upset Ireland away (having beat England and Australia at home in the last few months) then they'll be worth a place in the top 4. Their record would be 5 home wins and 2 away over 2 Six Nations.

Wales can pick up a few points by beating France, but with losses to England and Ireland this year to go with losses to England, Scotland and France last year they are rightly ranked behind the other 3.

However the Six Nations finishes, we're all some way behind New Zealand, which is also valid. Australia and South Africa don't get gimme games against the NH anymore though.

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Post by rugby4cast Wed 07 Mar 2018, 11:22 am

Here's some potential scenarios from this weekend and their ranking implications


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