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Post by Afro Mon 26 Mar 2018, 11:29 am

First topic message reminder :

Welcome  to the Miky Challenge League




This Week's Fixtures

Week 6
Brisbane Roar  v Perth Morning Glory
Melbourne Victory  v Newcastle Jets
Melbourne City  v Western Sydney Wanderers
Sydney FC  v Central Coast Mariners
Adelaide United  v Wellington Phoenix





This Week's Key Deadlines

- 2 new Lawyers drawn on Tuesday
- Injuries drawn Wednesday
- 2 releases per week max
- Tactics due Friday




Links

https://www.twitch.tv/hero606v2

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VM9eIonYMyXCXpQOBjAJylh3wihazcw8RKtLLHiD8HI/htmlview#gid=1996389080

Team_________Manager
Adelaide United_________Hero
Brisbane Roar_________Miky
Central Coast Mariners_________Olly
Melbourne City_________Twist
Melbourne Victory_________Afro
Newcastle Jets_________Nadz
Perth Glory_________Marky
Sid Knee CF_________Nando
Wellington Phoenix_________Bam
WS Wanderers_________Tino
Match_________Transfer_________Other
Fixtures/Results_________Lawyers_________Rules
Table_________Foreigns_________Youth Rules
Injuries_________Releases_________Press Conferences
Tactics_________Confirmation_________
_________Loans_________


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Post by Fernando Wed 25 Apr 2018, 4:17 pm

Im currently

------------------Handanovic
Valencia -- Soktratis -- Miranda -- Alaba
------------Modric --- Martinez
----Lozano -------Fekir -------Perisic
----------------Aduriz

Mainly Lozano,Fekir & Aduriz to upgrade

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Post by Marky Wed 25 Apr 2018, 4:21 pm

The 4-2-4 worked so well for me last week, that like any two bit manager who stumbles across a winning formula, I'm not changing the shape despite the opposition being completely different Laugh

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Post by Hero Wed 25 Apr 2018, 10:57 pm

About to stream Nando v Twist x

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Post by Hero Wed 25 Apr 2018, 11:59 pm

Nando v Twist
http://www.twitch.tv/hero606v2/v/254470277?sr=a&t=0s

Afro v Hero
http://www.twitch.tv/hero606v2/v/254481504?sr=a&t=0s

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Post by Marky Thu 26 Apr 2018, 6:44 am

Tactics in. Picked Svilar over Ulreich for bants.

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Post by Hero Thu 26 Apr 2018, 10:52 am

Afro, let me know once you've watched our game so we can discuss it.

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Post by Marky Thu 26 Apr 2018, 12:21 pm

I wouldn't like to be the guy facing Tino this week now he's signed Mo Salah Laugh

Wait...

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Post by Brooksey79 Thu 26 Apr 2018, 12:34 pm

I've no depth to my squad at all though and Inaki is injured so my 4-2-4 plans have taken a hit

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Post by Afro Thu 26 Apr 2018, 1:03 pm

Hero wrote:Afro, let me know once you've watched our game so we can discuss it.

Yeah watched it this morning first thing. I'm in despair!!! Laugh
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Post by Marky Thu 26 Apr 2018, 1:05 pm

Least it wasn't another 0-0 Wink

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Post by Afro Thu 26 Apr 2018, 1:08 pm

Marky wrote:Least it wasn't another 0-0 Wink

That was my first thought tbh. I genuinely think I would have been even more upset if it had been 0-0.

I have one more thought on what I can do differently. Failing that I'll be out of ideas
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Post by Hero Thu 26 Apr 2018, 1:34 pm

Afro wrote:
Hero wrote:Afro, let me know once you've watched our game so we can discuss it.

Yeah watched it this morning first thing. I'm in despair!!! Laugh

You were unlucky, hit the bar, fair few decent efforts, think it could have easily been a few goals more for both of us and Carrasco should have buried it at the end. Was at least a decent game and there was a lot more intent there from your side.
That Werner goal though Yahoo

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Post by Afro Thu 26 Apr 2018, 1:42 pm

Hero wrote:
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Hero wrote:Afro, let me know once you've watched our game so we can discuss it.

Yeah watched it this morning first thing. I'm in despair!!! Laugh

You were unlucky, hit the bar, fair few decent efforts, think it could have easily been a few goals more for both of us and Carrasco should have buried it at the end. Was at least a decent game and there was a lot more intent there from your side.
That Werner goal though Yahoo

Good goal, although my guys were clearly ignoring the "Pressure" instruction as they just backed off. Felt the game was even overall, but you took a chance and yet again I didn't.

Roll on next week versus Olly!
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Post by BamBam Thu 26 Apr 2018, 2:07 pm

Has Miky got his tactics in yet? I want to see how my custom tactics go down! If its not tonight I won't be able to watch till Sunday so I'm being even more of a keen bean than usual

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Post by Hero Thu 26 Apr 2018, 3:01 pm

Miky, Olly and Tino's are the tactics I'm awaiting upon

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Post by Holymiky Thu 26 Apr 2018, 3:03 pm

I'll get some in in a bit.

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Post by Holymiky Thu 26 Apr 2018, 3:03 pm

Considering Nando destroyed my midfield i have to rethink it.

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Post by Hero Thu 26 Apr 2018, 3:13 pm

Question for the masses...

Manager A has made their 2 signings for the week.
Manager B makes an offer involving a pot of cash to Manager A.
Manager A instead asks Manager B if he could instead use that cash to buy a player from foreigns to include in offer. Manager B has the foreigns available to do this.

Would this be frowned upon?

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Post by BamBam Thu 26 Apr 2018, 3:19 pm

I'd view it the same as Tino buying two youth players off Twist 4 mins after Twist signed them last season - think we all disapproved

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Post by Afro Thu 26 Apr 2018, 3:31 pm

Hero wrote:Question for the masses...

Manager A has made their 2 signings for the week.
Manager B makes an offer involving a pot of cash to Manager A.
Manager A instead asks Manager B if he could instead use that cash to buy a player from foreigns to include in offer. Manager B has the foreigns available to do this.

Would this be frowned upon?

Yes. It is circumventing the 2 player limit in TPs. Had it in the past and the transfers were reversed
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Post by Hero Thu 26 Apr 2018, 3:38 pm

Okay no probs.

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Post by BamBam Thu 26 Apr 2018, 3:38 pm

Tell Nads to come up with a better offer

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Post by Hero Thu 26 Apr 2018, 3:40 pm

BamBam wrote:Tell Nads to come up with a better offer

The offer ain't bad in fairness. Is it Fridays or Tuesday foreigns reset nowadays?

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Post by BamBam Thu 26 Apr 2018, 3:45 pm

Tuesday

I can't wait to see how much you fleece him for based on the last offer you rejected Laugh

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Post by Hero Thu 26 Apr 2018, 3:49 pm

If he buys a player who I want, plays him this week and then transfers him is that then allowed being that I've already played this week?

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Post by BamBam Thu 26 Apr 2018, 3:53 pm

Don't see why not, no different to any other domestic deal I guess.

He could have bought the player without any of us knowing you wanted him as part of the deal and sold him to you next week and we would have been none the wiser

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Post by Hero Thu 26 Apr 2018, 3:54 pm

Just don't want to do it and then someone then take issue with it.

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Post by Fernando Thu 26 Apr 2018, 4:01 pm

\\\me and Trebs weren't allowed to do it even though i suggested similar

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Post by Fernando Thu 26 Apr 2018, 4:02 pm

Also in other news Fekir & one of Javi Martinez/Benatia can go

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Post by Afro Thu 26 Apr 2018, 4:12 pm

I think anyone buying a player from the TPs on the knowledge that they are doing so to sell on to another team is getting around the TP limit. Why don't you just wait until Tuesday?
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Post by BamBam Thu 26 Apr 2018, 4:24 pm

Afro wrote:I think anyone buying a player from the TPs on the knowledge that they are doing so to sell on to another team is getting around the TP limit. Why don't you just wait until Tuesday?

Also true. I imagine Hero wants to bring in 3 players from TPs next week with the fortune he's going to get from Nads

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Post by Hero Thu 26 Apr 2018, 4:35 pm

Fine to wait till then!

Cash wise the player I want is worth the amount Nadz was offering to me so I suggested instead he bought the player.
So to confirm is there any issue with Nadz buying the player now, playing him this week and then transferring him to me on Tuesday.
Or would people prefer him to just give me the cash and I make the purchase on Tuesday.

And on a separate note which someone's pointed out to me...
I put forward the rule that any team's bench can only have a maximum of 1 keeper on it. It's not happened yet but a loophole could be exploited where a manager can fill his bench with 4 keepers or more and that then makes the CPU chose the remaining outfield subs to come on as it never seems to pick keepers.

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Post by Hero Thu 26 Apr 2018, 4:36 pm

Oh Nadz has gone ahead and bought the player now anyways....

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Post by Marky Thu 26 Apr 2018, 4:44 pm

I hope he keeps him Laugh

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Post by Hero Thu 26 Apr 2018, 4:55 pm

Marky wrote:I hope he keeps him Laugh

Laugh
TBF he made the suggestion of Nainggolan in the 1st place.

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Post by nadeem2099 Thu 26 Apr 2018, 5:54 pm

I'm gonna see how well Nainggolan does in this week's match first. If he plays good then I'm in with a dilemma Whistle Laugh
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Post by Hero Thu 26 Apr 2018, 10:51 pm

I happily lose one of next week's foreigns if people wish being that Nadz went ahead and got Nainggolan now rather than do the cash and I then purchased on Tuesday.

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Post by Holymiky Thu 26 Apr 2018, 11:29 pm

I dont think he should be traded next week either as I've already received a PM expressing a dislike if it were to happen.

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Post by TwisT Thu 26 Apr 2018, 11:36 pm

Top of the league and no one wants to try and do domestic deals with me. Laugh

Hope you are all good lads and keeping well

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Post by Hero Thu 26 Apr 2018, 11:43 pm

I couldn't have been more upfront over it and I'm happy to renage on one of my foreigns next week to put it through. Others have in the past been underhand in doing similar and there's actually no rule ever been put in place to stop it despite it happening previously.

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Post by Afro Fri 27 Apr 2018, 12:23 am

I think the risk is it being seen as getting around the TP limit. The second risk is that someone else may have been planning to buy him Tuesday (not me btw as he was on my list but I don’t have the cash) and you have effectively taken him of the market and reserved him.

Spirit of the game should be that no one should use their TPs to the benefit of someone else.

I deliberately tested the water quite hard with Nadz earlier and it is quite clear he is keeping hold of Nainggolan in order to trade him and get Asensio of you.

Fair enough, I think you are genuinely not trying to find loopholes and If you give up 1 of your 2 TPS then this counters the first problem. Bur not the second. I think this probably happened because Nadz jumped the gun, and you would have just waited until Tuesday after discussing it on here.
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Post by Afro Fri 27 Apr 2018, 12:28 am

But I also don’t think there can be a deal where you get Nainggolan this week when others have had deals reversed for doing the same thing
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Post by Hero Fri 27 Apr 2018, 12:30 am

What I've suggested to Miky is that Nadz can either keep Nainggolan for a month and not trade him or the transfer is cancelled and we go back to the original deal of cash involved.
Being that once the market opened on Tuesday at midnight no-one else would have had 40m in their bank unless they went mental on releases I could them acquire him before anyone got lawyers.

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Post by Holymiky Fri 27 Apr 2018, 12:32 am

Regarding the Nainggolan transfer...

I'm going to set a rule here to keep things clear.

Nadz you have the option to revert the Nainggolan deal if you are planning to trade him within the league over the next month (28 days from the 26th April). This will mean the same for any player going forward. If you and Hero still want to do the deal and then Hero buys Nainggolan on Tuesday as planned then that is fine but anything other than that is not being allowed.

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Post by Afro Fri 27 Apr 2018, 12:37 am

I think that is fair all round. Ok!

Incidentally I could release just Aouar and have the cash for Nainggolan...
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Post by Hero Fri 27 Apr 2018, 12:40 am

Being as I'm being upfront though I'd trust you not to then try to steal a march on me with information that I was going to get the player at that time and you'd previously not have thought to do such a thing.

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Post by Afro Fri 27 Apr 2018, 12:43 am

Damn you playing the moral card Laugh

No I wouldn’t. You already know I hate releasing and writing off 25% of a players value.

My interest in Asensio is genuine though, so please
Negotiate. I could use my cash to help get you up to what you need for Nainggolan
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Post by BamBam Fri 27 Apr 2018, 7:36 am

Holymiky wrote:Regarding the Nainggolan transfer...

I'm going to set a rule here to keep things clear.

Nadz you have the option to revert the Nainggolan deal if you are planning to trade him within the league over the next month (28 days from the 26th April). This will mean the same for any player going forward. If you and Hero still want to do the deal and then Hero buys Nainggolan on Tuesday as planned then that is fine but anything other than that is not being allowed.

A month is too long imo. I was close to trading Higuain to Afro after about 10 days but it definitely wasn't the intention when I signed him

2 weeks seems fairer to me

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Post by BamBam Fri 27 Apr 2018, 7:37 am

All this for Nads wet dream of a knock off real Madrid ffs

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Post by Hero Fri 27 Apr 2018, 8:11 am

Here's your game Bam btw x

http://www.twitch.tv/hero606v2/v/254857073?sr=a&t=0s

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