Englands team in 5 years time

I done the same concept a few months back but now the sections started to pick up I thought I would do it again. Theres a few changes I want to make to my sides too. Well heres my predictions. (The cut off age is 28)

Test:

1) Joe Denly
2) Alistair Cook (C)
3) James Vince
4) Eoin Morgan
5) James Taylor
6) Craig Kieswetter (W-K)
7) Samit Patel
8) Stuart Broad
9) Tim Bresnan
10) Adil Rashid
11) Steve Finn

ODI:

1) Craig Kieswetter (W-K)
2) Alistair Cook (C)
3) James Vince
4) Eoin Morgan
5) James Hildreth
6) Jos Buttler
7) Samit Patel
8) Tom Smith
9) Stuart Broad
10) Tim Bresnan
11) Adil Rashid


T20:

1) Craig Kieswetter (W-K)
2) Tom Smith
3) James Hildreth
4) Eoin Morgan
5) Ravi Bopara
6) Jos Buttler
7) Samit Patel
8) Stuart Broad (C)
9) Chris Woakes
10) Adil Rashid
11) Ajmal Shahzad

What would be your line-ups?

Can't see Denly being in the test side.
How about Lyth or Hales.
Even Northeast or Taylor (who opened for the Lions recently)?

Also, 28's a bit of a young cut off point IMO. In 5 years Bell will only be 34, Trott and KP only 35, Anderson 33, Tremlett 34 and even Swann will only be 37, so a number of them might well still be around.

What your list does show, however, is that England has a lot of good young talent coming through at the moment. Hopefully some of them will go on to be great international cricketer.

Agreed definitely.

It's hard to make a call on the sides in the future as form changes, but I'd say Liam's are good calls and again not too dissimilar to what I'd come up with. Although I'd have been tempted to have admitted some of Hoggy's suggestions.

Hoggy_Bear wrote:Can't see Denly being in the test side.
How about Lyth or Hales.
Even Northeast or Taylor (who opened for the Lions recently)?

Also, 28's a bit of a young cut off point IMO. In 5 years Bell will only be 34, Trott and KP only 35, Anderson 33, Tremlett 34 and even Swann will only be 37, so a number of them might well still be around.

What your list does show, however, is that England has a lot of good young talent coming through at the moment. Hopefully some of them will go on to be great international cricketer.

I think Denly will improve as the years go on,lovely player to watch aswell. Hales is a good shout,completely forgot about him.

I had the cut off at 28 as a the average age that Cricketers retire from International Cricket is around 33/34 feel free to put players over 28 in your side though.

Reckon in 5 years we'll be able to choose from a pool of players (test and one-day) including:

Openers:
Cook
Lyth
Hales
Denly
Northeast
Kieswetter
Davies


Middle-order:
Trott
Bell
KP
Taylor
Hildreth
Bopara
Stokes
Patel

Keepers:
Prior
Davies
Kieswetter
Buttler
Bairstow

Seamers:
Anderson
Tremlett
Broad
Woakes
Bresnan
Finn
Shahzad
Harris
Topley
Dernbach
Roland-Jones
Meaker

Spinners:
Rashid
Briggs
Borthwick
Beer
Rafiq
Tredwell

Maybe a bit short on spinners (can't think of any more off the top of my head), but still, not too shabby.

Hoggy and all - even allowing for Surrey bias, you should definitely add Jason Roy to your list.

It certainly is looking like happy days for England cricket as for the first time in a long time, they have strength in depth. Its for this reason that they are starting to win alot of series.

Team 5 years ago today

Trescothick
Strauss
Cook
Pietersen
Collingwood
Bell
GJones -
Plunkett
Hoggard
Harmison
Panesar

ODIs for the month of June 5 years ago

Trescothick, Joyce, Strauss, Collingwood, Bell, Dalrymple, GJones, Chapple, Plunkett, Mahmood, Harmison, Pietersen, Bresnan, Louden, Solanki, Kabir Ali

You could say that half the Test team now would still be playing in 5 years time but the ODI team changes more rapidly. Maybe two or three will still be there.

In five years time Flower will have probably gone and we might even have two different coaches for the different formats. We will definitely have a different selection panel. We still won't have won the World Cup.

test

1)Alex Wakely
2)Alistair Cook (C)
3)Luke Wells
4)Kp
5)Ian Bell
6)Eoin Morgan
7)Craig Kieswetter (WK)
8)Stuart Broad
9)Chris Tremlett
10)Tom Wright (new derbyshire 17 year old left arm spinner)
11)James Anderson

ODI
1)Andrew Gale
2)Craig Kiewsetter (WK)
3)Kp (C)
4)James Vince
5)Luke Wells
6)Ravi Bopara
7)Eoin Morgan
8)Stephen Parry
9)Steven Finn
10)Jack Brooks
11)Stuart Broad

t20
1)Alex Hales
2)Phil Mustard (WK) (C)
3)Ravi Bopara
4)Luke Wells
5)Eoin Morgan
6)Luke Wright
7)Adil Rashid
8)Stuart Broad
9)Nathan Buck
10)Steven Finn
11)Chris Woakes

How about young Gregory at Somerset? I've heard good things about him, anyone more in the know care to comment?

from what i have seen of him he dosent look great, but i havent seen a lot of him

Test

Alistair Cook (c)
James Taylor
Jonathan Trott
Ravi Bopara
Eoin Morgan
Samit Patel
Craig Kieswetter (w)
Stuart Broad
Chris Woakes/Adil Rashid (depending on pitch)
Reece Topley
Steven Finn

ODI

Alistair Cook (c)
Craig Kieswetter (w)
James Taylor
Ravi Bopara
Eoin Morgan
Jos Buttler
Samit Patel
Chris Woakes
Adil Rashid
Stuart Broad
Reece Topley

T20

Jason Roy
Craig Kieswetter (w)
James Taylor
Eoin Morgan
Jos Buttler
Samit Patel
???
Chris Woakes
Stuart Broad (c)
Adil Rashid
Reece Topley

A couple of thoughts:

I don't rate Denly that highly technically. I'd love to be wrong but I can't see him being successful at international level. Hales and especially Lyth are probably better options.

A name no one has mentioned is Dawid Malan of middlesex. He's played some tremendous innings for them over the last couple of years and I think he could be very special, he just seems to have that extra time which all true greats have. His record is average but on a hunch I'd be very very surprised if he doesn't play for England at some point.

James Taylor is probably the next in line for the middle-order, but at the moment there is a while to go until anyone retires (not unusual to see players playing well into their mid-30s).

I don't think Bopara is upto it mentally.

Ben Stokes is a good little player, wouldn't be surprised to see him do well.

Overall England have plenty of batting talent in the wings.

Seam-bowling is similar: Topley, Harris, Roland-Jones, Finn, Bresnan, Shahzad all very young and already very good. Not convinced about Meaker, think he needs to gain a lot of strength as at the moment it's kinda 1 quick ball in 4. Unconvinced Dernbach will cut it at test level but I said the same thing about Bresnan and he proved me wrong in Aus.

Spin-bowling is a worry as things stand: I am very unconvinced about Rashid. For a leg-spinner to do well he needs to be very good. I don't think Rashid's leg-break is good enough. I could be wrong. I quite liked the look of Borthwick when I first saw him, but not sure how things stand now. Beer may be ok for ODIs but won't take wickets in test matches. Tredwell is very average but will do a job if necessary. Panesar is still youngish? Of course Swann could go on for a while. Briggs looks promising. Not sure how much else there is. Apart from Warne, most spinners mature quite late so someone like Borthwick if given 4 years may become good (or even Rashid). But certainly this is where the reserves are weakest...

Danny Briggs, James Vince + Chris Wood from Hampshire, i think they can make the step up

Fists of Fury wrote:How about young Gregory at Somerset? I've heard good things about him, anyone more in the know care to comment?

unlikely, could maybe develop well with county experience and maybe play once or twice but, i expected him to go like Trego, flirt with the lions but never go the distance

i agree with hodge