European Tour - 2019

New Year, Time for a New Thread.

EuroTour makes it 2019 Debut this week with the Abu Dhabi HSBC Classic Presented by EGA.  Next week is Dubai and the following week is the New Saudi Event

Guessing that the EGA Presentation got Abu Dhabi a promotion to a Rolex Series event.


DJ and BK are playing in Abu Dhabi.  So is Fleetwood, Stenson, Oosthuizen, RCB, Barnrat, Poulter, and Oleson

Despite the the Hired Guns from USA and Rolex Promotion, Abu Dhabi will have its lowest OWGR rating in 10 yrs.  Pelley can't be happy about that.

Gonzo throwing some shade at Simon Dyson, and not with his nose

https://twitter.com/gfcgolf/status/1085533400214237185

Saw that, bit harsh I thought.

What is a garbage dump doing on the Abu Dhabi golf course?

https://twitter.com/GolfDigest/status/1085594059702439938

ET reckons Lowry is the first golfer to shoot 62 or less whilst "having hit fewer than five fairways", since records have been kept anyway.
Bet it's happened a few times on the PGA Tour, eh Phil, Tiger?

Pie man has done very well there.Just shows all shapes can be great players.
Great effort

GPB wrote:What is a garbage dump doing on the Abu Dhabi golf course?

https://twitter.com/GolfDigest/status/1085594059702439938

Must be from directly under Simon Dysons hotel room window after he read Gonzos tweet.

Love the ET video about content committee. Eddie P has mastered the David Brent look to camera.

Call it a stepping stone, but its videos are first class.

beninho wrote:Love the ET video about content committee. Eddie P has mastered the David Brent look to camera.

Call it a stepping stone, but its videos are first class.

Certainly 100x better than the awful "golf-boyz".

Monty's Python

Keeping up with the apibarnrats was a classic.

Just seen an interesting occurence (for me) in the Abu Dhabi Championship. Ian Poulter in a bit of trouble on the 16th. Eventually got near the green but his route was interfered with by some sort of TV/Satellite mast. Poulter asked for referee ruling. Refereee gave him relief + club length. This was presumably being watched by someone from ET and more senior referee turns up and says mast was moveable and tells Poulter to put his ball back. Mast placed on ground and Poulter makes triple bogey. Interesting that one referee (obviously more senior) can overrrule another. Wondered what would have happened if Poulter had played a shot after getting relief but before other referee turned up?

I'm never wrong wrote:Just seen an interesting occurence (for me) in the Abu Dhabi Championship. Ian Poulter in a bit of trouble on the 16th. Eventually got near the green but his route was interfered with by some sort of TV/Satellite mast. Poulter asked for referee ruling. Refereee gave him relief + club length. This was presumably being watched by someone from ET and more senior referee turns up and says mast was moveable and tells Poulter to put his ball back. Mast placed on ground and Poulter makes triple bogey. Interesting that one referee (obviously more senior) can overrrule another. Wondered what would have happened if Poulter had played a shot after getting relief but before other referee turned up?

Right or wrong, the referee's on-course decision is always correct, so players can't be penalised for an error by the referee. So if he hurried up and played, then he would have been in the clear even when the senior guy turned up.

Good that Poults rescued a birdie at the last, and great that Lowry strung together four great shots when he needed them most. (Probably not enough).

Huge win for Shane Lowry. I don't think I've ever seen a player make more 2's on par-3s than Shane did this week. He had nine birdies on the par-3's thru 3 rounds, and added 2 more today. He bogeyed one par-3 for the week, but that's still 10-under on the 16 par-3's. 2.375 stroke average on them for the week. Amazing.

https://twitter.com/VC606/status/1086248348628201473?s=19

Yeah, great iron play there Robo.

Monty in at 1 under.

BdeC wiping out the opposition with some excellent golf. Tournament record I believe. Supers pick for the Masters comes second.

Think that’s 5 wins from 9 events for BcD, Woodsesque type numbers, today’s win in particular very dominant. Nice to see someone go about the game in a different way, be interesting to see how he goes in the majors this year.

Interesting year in the majors coming. Rose in imperious form, Bryson De Mad Scientist, Koepka, Rizla Johnson etc. Even the likes of Wallace as a dark horse.

The days of Rev Gordon Spieth domination seem ever such a long time ago.

super_realist wrote:Interesting year in the majors coming. Rose in imperious form, Bryson De Mad Scientist, Koepka, Rizla Johnson etc. Even the likes of Wallace as a dark horse.

The days of Rev Gordon Spieth domination seem ever such a long time ago.

No mention of your man Tiger?

pedro wrote:

super_realist wrote:Interesting year in the majors coming. Rose in imperious form, Bryson De Mad Scientist, Koepka, Rizla Johnson etc. Even the likes of Wallace as a dark horse.

The days of Rev Gordon Spieth domination seem ever such a long time ago.

No mention of your man Tiger?

Can't see him winning a major. Can you?

super_realist wrote:

pedro wrote:

super_realist wrote:Interesting year in the majors coming. Rose in imperious form, Bryson De Mad Scientist, Koepka, Rizla Johnson etc. Even the likes of Wallace as a dark horse.

The days of Rev Gordon Spieth domination seem ever such a long time ago.

No mention of your man Tiger?

Can't see him winning a major. Can you?

6th and 2nd in the last twomajors of 2018? Winner of the TC? I’d say his chances are as good as many others inside the top20, and better than your dark horse Matt Wallace.

Rev Gordon Spieth? Again, really? I thought you might have moved on. Silly me.

Once mentioned in a religious website for propaganda reasons, labeled a Bible thumper for the rest of your life.

Rev Gordon Spieth?  Again, really?  I thought you might have moved on.  Silly me.

Once mentioned in a religious website for propaganda reasons, labeled a Bible thumper for the rest of your life.

Too late. Spieth should have taken Mark Twains advice: It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

GPB wrote:Rev Gordon Spieth?  Again, really?  I thought you might have moved on.  Silly me.

Once mentioned in a religious website for propaganda reasons, labeled a Bible thumper for the rest of your life.

He is a bible thumper, he goes to bloody bible study class for goodness sake. Shame he doesn't read the bits about the bible condoning slavery, r***, incest, genocide, human sacrifice etc.

I'm never wrong wrote:BdeC wiping out the opposition with some excellent golf. Tournament record I believe. Supers pick for the Masters comes second.

More like sending the opposition to sleep. Undoubted talent but...The whole 1:40 to hit a bloody wedge (while factoring in things like air density ffs!!), I don’t get why after the big fanfare about rules changes, specifically in this case in relation to the the 40 Sec rule...why BdC didn’t actually finish OVER par!!

JAS wrote:

I'm never wrong wrote:BdeC wiping out the opposition with some excellent golf. Tournament record I believe. Supers pick for the Masters comes second.

More like sending the opposition to sleep. Undoubted talent but...The whole 1:40 to hit a bloody wedge (while factoring in things like air density ffs!!), I don’t get why after the big fanfare about rules changes, specifically in this case in relation to the the 40 Sec rule...why BdC didn’t actually finish OVER par!!

They won't penalise him - he's not Asian.

Saudia Arabia, yea or nay?

McLaren wrote:Saudia Arabia, yea or nay?

Well if the majority are happy or don’t care that we flog arms to them then why shouldn’t a financially struggling and hungry golf tour tap into the desert dollar oasis?? I realise that doesn’t answer the question at all.

You could say at a stretch that sporting sanctions eventually contributed to toppling apartheid but did it really?

The other side of the debate is that you shouldn’t mix sport and politics, why should sportsmen get involved.

In Saudi Arabia’s case, IF they are genuinely intentioned to move toward being a more open and inclusive society and IF they are giving assurances that they’ve stopped funding ISIS and bombing Yemen then fine, nothing wrong with encouraging them. That however is a very very big IF.

I'm opposed to golf tournaments in countries ingrained in religious bigotry, with dodgy human right records, draconian punishments for minor offences, institutionalised racism and who fund and participate in civil wars around the world. But enough about the US, I still think the Phoenix Open will go ahead.

super_realist wrote:
He is a bible thumper, he goes to bloody bible study class for goodness sake. Shame he doesn't read the bits about the bible condoning slavery, r***, incest, genocide, human sacrifice etc.

When I asked for a citation, all you could provide is Religious propaganda sites.

Like this

https://www.beliefnet.com/entertainment/sports/5-christian-golfers-playing-at-the-masters.aspx?p=2

He reportedly attends the PGA Tour Bible study meetings. He also created the Jordan Spieth Family Foundation focuses on special needs youth, junior golf, and military support.

Ahem...."Reportedly"...

and this site

https://www.christiantoday.com/article/christian-champion-golfer-jordan-spieth-earns-raves-for-his-devotion-to-christ/66837.htm

"He goes to Bible study with us on the Tour here," Watson said, according to the blog God Reports.

Can't you see that these are Christian Propaganda sites?

pedro wrote:I'm opposed to golf tournaments in countries ingrained in religious bigotry, with dodgy human right records, draconian punishments for minor offences, institutionalised racism and who fund and participate in civil wars around the world. But enough about the US, I still think the Phoenix Open will go ahead.

Yes, we could be a more civilized country like England

https://nypost.com/video/wooden-planks-become-weapons-in-nasty-neighbor-fight/

GPB wrote:

pedro wrote:I'm opposed to golf tournaments in countries ingrained in religious bigotry, with dodgy human right records, draconian punishments for minor offences, institutionalised racism and who fund and participate in civil wars around the world. But enough about the US, I still think the Phoenix Open will go ahead.

Yes, we could be a more civilized country like England

https://nypost.com/video/wooden-planks-become-weapons-in-nasty-neighbor-fight/

Exactly. In America it would have ended in a gun fight..

GPB wrote:

pedro wrote:I'm opposed to golf tournaments in countries ingrained in religious bigotry, with dodgy human right records, draconian punishments for minor offences, institutionalised racism and who fund and participate in civil wars around the world. But enough about the US, I still think the Phoenix Open will go ahead.

Yes, we could be a more civilized country like England

https://nypost.com/video/wooden-planks-become-weapons-in-nasty-neighbor-fight/

Ha ha, you can't help yourself can you? Do you just wake up every morning and shout USA USA USA?

Statistically England (UK) is MUCH more civilised than the USA.

super_realist wrote:

Statistically England (UK) is MUCH more civilised than the USA.

Maybe compared to alabama or something but not ones of the more liberal states.

How do you define "civilised"?

Guess Super couldn't find any non-propaganda sites saying Spieth is a Bible thumper.

GPB wrote:Guess Super couldn't find any non-propaganda sites saying Spieth is a Bible thumper.

It's widely reported he goes to bible class, and need I mention that he believes god is more important than science?

If you want me to stop mentioning it, perhaps you should stop responding to my mention. Half the reason I do it is because you have sand in your vagina every time I mention it.

McLaren wrote:

super_realist wrote:

Statistically England (UK) is MUCH more civilised than the USA.

Maybe compared to alabama or something but not ones of the more liberal states.

Lower crime, lower murder, lower prison population, better employment law, better holiday entitlement, safer roads, better public transport, better state education, widely available healthcare...……...

McLaren wrote:

super_realist wrote:

Statistically England (UK) is MUCH more civilised than the USA.

Maybe compared to alabama or something but not ones of the more liberal states.

Mac,
There are no liberal States, just some (ours included, fortunately) less conservative than others.

super_realist wrote:

GPB wrote:Guess Super couldn't find any non-propaganda sites saying Spieth is a Bible thumper.

It's widely reported he goes to bible class, and need I mention that he believes god is more important than science?

If you want me to stop mentioning it, perhaps you should stop responding to my mention. Half the reason I do it is because you have sand in your vagina every time I mention it.

Well that is a good reason to be a troll! A Tyrant can always find pretext for his tyranny!

What does it say about you that you believe religious propaganda sites?

Guess the crucifixes around Sergio and Rory don't bother you.

GPB wrote:

super_realist wrote:

GPB wrote:Guess Super couldn't find any non-propaganda sites saying Spieth is a Bible thumper.

It's widely reported he goes to bible class, and need I mention that he believes god is more important than science?

If you want me to stop mentioning it, perhaps you should stop responding to my mention. Half the reason I do it is because you have sand in your vagina every time I mention it.

Well that is a good reason to be a troll!  A Tyrant can always find pretext for his tyranny!

What does it say about you that you believe religious propaganda sites?

Guess the crucifixes around Sergio and Rory don't bother you.  

I've never seen anything that Rory or Sergio are religious, although I'm happy enough to ridicule them if they are. Crucifixes aren't necessarily a sign of religiosity. Attending a bible class and saying god comes before science definitely is.

Does Rory have a crucifix? I thought he flirted with saying he was British and not Irish at one point?

He was cross

I see Lady Putt is on-line at the moment: Did you know Alfie Plant LP? He's had a great start in Saudi, and of course he needs it, plus three more fine rounds.

kwinigolfer wrote:I see Lady Putt is on-line at the moment: Did you know Alfie Plant LP? He's had a great start in Saudi, and of course he needs it, plus three more fine rounds.

No, didn’t know Alfie although LordPutt thinks he remembers him as a young whippersnapper when he used to work at Sundridge Park, but remember he retired from there 12 years ago! A good front (back) nine from him, pity about the rest

LadyPutt wrote:

kwinigolfer wrote:I see Lady Putt is on-line at the moment: Did you know Alfie Plant LP? He's had a great start in Saudi, and of course he needs it, plus three more fine rounds.

No, didn’t know Alfie although LordPutt thinks he remembers him as a young whippersnapper when he used to work at Sundridge Park, but remember he retired from there 12 years ago! A good front (back) nine from him, pity about the rest

Just wondered, a friend of mine plays there (as part of their "artisan" deal), knows him pretty well apparently, but he needs some pro success to build on his amateur promise.

Re. the Saudi tournament: Is it good or bad to miss the cut?

I thought I would come over and check in with my European friends to get a pulse on their thoughts RE the controversies surrounding the Saudi Arabia event.

Maybe some opinions on dismembering and dissolving a journalist in acid... Or maybe thoughts on bundling women up in bags and stoning them to death... Or maybe thoughts if the ET should have postponed this event... Or maybe thoughts should these players taking the money to play in light of the recent controversies...  

But instead, I come in and find a heated debate on the horrific prospects that Jordan Spieth may or may not be attending a Bible class.  And in the same thread I read "statistically the UK is more civilized".

ROTFLMAO... I didn't know I was coming in for a comedy routine... Carry on please... This is awesome...