Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[Soul Requiem]

First topic message reminder :

The far left is often dependent on where an individual themselves is on the political spectrum, for example Owen Jones may be seen as far left to someone who is centre right but to a centrist will be seen as merely left wing, personally have him down as part of the hard left.

I have him as left wing. Though is hard left not the same as far left because I dont have him as far left. I get tge views based on your own spectrum though. Which is why I hare labour supporters calling Starmer and others right wing.  Left of centre is not right wing.

I would say that hard left is within the standard left wing myself, thinking of someone like Tony Benn being hard left as opposed to Ed Milliband who was soft left, will say however that is possibly closer to far left than it is the centre.

[super_realist]

I just find the Glasgow accent hard to listen to, it's aggressive  and harsh, just as I don't like the Brummie accent because it makes the speaker sound simple , Dundee accent because it sounds horrible in every way (if you've never heard a Dundee accent, Google Liz McColgan) Northern Irish accent for similar reasons (Ian Paisley, Gerry Adams Arlene Foster) , Scouse accent, Cockney accent etc
They aren't pleasant to listen to at all.

With doing an annual trip to Carnoustie I’m fairly familiar with a Dundee accent yes. I struggle with Brummie accents and scouse can grate my gears at times. Speaking of Scouse do you have any predictions for Gerrard Currant Buns tonight. I think they’re due a setback/wake up. Hope for Scottish footballs sake they get a result tonight but I can see it going either way.

I'm hoping that The Huns get walloped tonight. Scottish teams don't belong in Europe, not even competition as tinpot as the Europa League.
I'd expect Galatasaray to beat them 9/10 times, but you never know. The fact there's not 50,000 knuckle dragging zombies in Castle Grayskull won't help Rangers though, nor will not having played any decent opposition for a few months. 3-1 to the Turks.

[JAS]

I just find the Glasgow accent hard to listen to, it's aggressive  and harsh, just as I don't like the Brummie accent because it makes the speaker sound simple , Dundee accent because it sounds horrible in every way (if you've never heard a Dundee accent, Google Liz McColgan) Northern Irish accent for similar reasons (Ian Paisley, Gerry Adams Arlene Foster) , Scouse accent, Cockney accent etc
They aren't pleasant to listen to at all.

With doing an annual trip to Carnoustie I’m fairly familiar with a Dundee accent yes. I struggle with Brummie accents and scouse can grate my gears at times. Speaking of Scouse do you have any predictions for Gerrard Currant Buns tonight. I think they’re due a setback/wake up. Hope for Scottish footballs sake they get a result tonight but I can see it going either way.

I'm hoping that The Huns get walloped tonight. Scottish teams don't belong in Europe, not even competition as tinpot as the Europa League.
I'd expect Galatasaray to beat them 9/10 times, but you never know. The fact there's not 50,000 knuckle dragging zombies in Castle Grayskull won't help Rangers though, nor will not having played any decent opposition for a few months. 3-1 to the Turks.

Yeah yea yeah says the guy who thought the National coefficient wouldn’t improve from 22 when the currant buns came back from the wilderness. It’s now 12 the Turks are 11th so a win tonight would see the Jocks leapfrog Turkey. They already have 2 teams in the CL next year after getting to 15th, getting to 11th would take the champions out of the banana skin qualifiers straight into the group stages.
Anyway, gut feeling I’m not super confident of tonight but I would question  “Not having played any decent teams”? You might want to check that? Braga? Topped Wolves group last season, Feyenoord, despatched in the group stages? Porto see Feyenoord. Leverkusen they eventually succumbed to. I don’t see Galatasaray as significantly better than those teams all of whom I’d call decent. So it’s 50/50 it really could go either way. Also, I know friendlies shouldn’t throw down any sort of marker but they did hump Lyon in Lyon in pre season

[super_realist]

No, they don't have two teams in the Champions League, they have two teams in CL Qualifying and Scottish teams have an atrocious record of qualifying for that.
One swallow doesn't make a summer and one outlying year doesnt mean all of a sudden Scottish football is good. The mighty footballing nations of  Denmark, Cyprus, Austria and Ukraine will also have 2CL qualification positions, big bloody deal. Only matters if you actually qualify.

By the way, the SPL is 13th, not 12th

Bottom line is that Celtic and Rangers are very much small fry and I also said they haven't played anyone decent in the last few months. All they did was get spanked by Leverkusen.

[McLaren]

Serious question...do you struggle with working class Scottishness, particularly West of Scotland accents and find them chavvy and cringeworthy?

I know this was aimed at Super but for me it is a yes.




Super

The Turkish league is a terrible standard. Galatasaray would not beat rangers 9/10 times.

[super_realist]

It's ranked higher than the SPL and Turkish teams reach the Champions League far more often than teams from the SPL. Turkey also has some good players in the league, far better than here.
We will find out soon.

[JAS]

The reason Denmark, Cyprus, Austria & Ukraine have 2 teams is that they’ve been top 15 in Country rankings one of them will lose a slot next season.

Nobody has really played anyone of note yet this season as the seeded teams only come in tonight so a bit of a bizarre point really.

Also to go from 22nd to 12th/13th takes more than one swallow. Didn’t Celtic beat Lazio home & away last year? I’ve made this point several times and you always have a blind spot about it, Scotland did have a Top 10 country coefficient before Rangers imploded. The coefficient calculations are done over a 5 year period, this is only Rangers 3rd season properly back (forgetting the Pedro debacle) so it’s highly likely they’ll establish themselves somewhere between 9th & 14th because that is the long term trend. If the Old firm weren’t there then yeah, we’d struggle to be in the top 30

Let’s just see what happens, Galatasaray are decent but in spite of how you might want to sell it Rangers have beaten higher ranked teams than Galatasaray in the last couple of seasons.

[super_realist]

The reason Denmark, Cyprus, Austria & Ukraine have 2 teams is that they’ve been top 15 in Country rankings one of them will lose a slot next season.

Nobody has really played anyone of note yet this season as the seeded teams only come in tonight so a bit of a bizarre point really.

Also to go from 22nd to 12th/13th takes more than one swallow. Didn’t Celtic beat Lazio home & away last year? I’ve made this point several times and you always have a blind spot about it, Scotland did have a Top 10 country coefficient before Rangers imploded. The coefficient calculations are done over a 5 year period, this is only Rangers 3rd season properly back (forgetting the Pedro debacle) so it’s highly likely they’ll establish themselves somewhere between 9th & 14th because that is the long term trend. If the Old firm weren’t there then yeah, we’d struggle to be in the top 30

Let’s just see what happens, Galatasaray are decent but in spite of how you might want to sell it Rangers have beaten higher ranked teams than Galatasaray in the last couple of seasons.

I meant that Rangers haven't played anyone decent domestically so they haven't been challenged in months. This is one of the reasons that Scotland is so bad because they get to qualifying and they have no practice of playing decent teams.

You also keep ignoring that Scotlands league was ranked outside the Top 10-12 BEFORE Rangers got relegated for cheating.

The swallow to which I was referring was last year as in one good year doesnt mean you're suddenly a decent league again.

[super_realist]

Are you sneaking along to the Renaissance for a wee beau peep today Mac?

[McLaren]

No, I know a member and thought I might get to go along but didn't hear anything. Hopefully they set it up a bit differently to last year when it was basically target golf due to very soft greens.

[super_realist]

I've heard they have made some changes Mac, trouble with these new courses like Kingsbarns, Castle Stuart, Archerfield, Dumbarnie etc is they are set up more for aesthetic appeal rather than course difficulty.
Not sure where I'd put a Scottish Open, I did like Loch Lomond but Gleneagles could be another good venue.

[JAS]

Are you sneaking along to the Renaissance for a wee beau peep today Mac?

Looks cracking to be fair, one of them you just can’t get on unless you know somebody...or has it opened up a bit?

[super_realist]

Are you sneaking along to the Renaissance for a wee beau peep today Mac?

Looks cracking to be fair, one of them you just can’t get on unless you know somebody...or has it opened up a bit?

Still very exclusive Jas, I get onto Archerfield now and again through contacts but this is even more expensive and exclusive.

It's a weird area, I can't quite work out how there can be that many wealthy people all wanting to live on the estate, there's at least 50 multi million pound properties there.

[McLaren]

Jas

They offer a one time £250 deal. Saw posters for it last year at the Scottish open. Probably better to find a member.

[navyblueshorts]

...Regarding “senile old” Navy, just because Trump says it doesn’t mean there isn’t an element of truth in it. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The Democrats had a huge field to choose from as well as lessons learnt from 2016 and quite frankly their choice of candidate smacks of uninspired, one more heave fear. I also, like Soul think Buttingieg should have been better supported.

If Trump says something, you almost know for certain it isn't true - if his mouth's open, he's lying. Yep, Biden is getting old, but personally, I think a job like this needs some serious experience. Just perhaps, when Biden pauses, he's, you know, actually thinking.
Buttigieg is for the future. Going young, for young's sake, is stupid - look at Cameron when the Tories thought that doing a blue Blair was a good idea. Assuming Biden wins (big 'if'), think Harris likely to be the next President.

[navyblueshorts]

I wonder whether all those lefties who were so keen on seeing Cummings be sacked or resign will do the same for rule breaking Corbyn. I doubt it.

This says more about you, than them, I think. Your assumptions about 'lefties' aren't worthy of you.

[super_realist]

I wonder whether all those lefties who were so keen on seeing Cummings be sacked or resign will do the same for rule breaking Corbyn. I doubt it.

This says more about you, than them, I think. Your assumptions about 'lefties' aren't worthy of you.

Eh? If you rember rightly the left (especially) were rabidly frothing in regards to Cumming, but have been curiously quiet when their own comrades do the same (or worse). Its a lack of consistency which points to the fact that rather than be upset with the action, its merely a stick to hit the right with. Beninho admitted as much before.

[Soul Requiem]

...Regarding “senile old” Navy, just because Trump says it doesn’t mean there isn’t an element of truth in it. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The Democrats had a huge field to choose from as well as lessons learnt from 2016 and quite frankly their choice of candidate smacks of uninspired, one more heave fear. I also, like Soul think Buttingieg should have been better supported.

If Trump says something, you almost know for certain it isn't true - if his mouth's open, he's lying. Yep, Biden is getting old, but personally, I think a job like this needs some serious experience. Just perhaps, when Biden pauses, he's, you know, actually thinking.
Buttigieg is for the future. Going young, for young's sake, is stupid - look at Cameron when the Tories thought that doing a blue Blair was a good idea. Assuming Biden wins (big 'if'), think Harris likely to be the next President.

Assuming something to be false just because Trump agrees with it doesn't make it so Navy as you well know, all the evidence suggests that Biden doesn't have all mental faculties any more, it's obvious if you look beyond it being Trump saying it.

In fairness to Cameron come the next election the Tories will have been in power for 14 years so he didn't do too bad a job.

[JAS]

I wonder whether all those lefties who were so keen on seeing Cummings be sacked or resign will do the same for rule breaking Corbyn. I doubt it.

This says more about you, than them, I think. Your assumptions about 'lefties' aren't worthy of you.

Eh? If you rember rightly the left (especially) were rabidly frothing in regards to Cumming, but have been curiously quiet when their own comrades do the same (or worse). Its a lack of consistency which points to the fact that rather than be upset with the action, its merely a stick to hit the right with. Beninho admitted as much before.

Yep he’s a dick, having said that he’s already apologised and ok with the fine...meanwhile we’re still waiting on the first ounce of apology from the Dom or his boss. Also, incase you hadn’t noticed, Corbyn went back to being a nobody in April. So I’m picking up a hint of desperation in the brick throwing at lefties from somebody who asserts they’re not right wing :-p

[super_realist]

I just would like consistency. I believe all of the high profile politicians and medical people deserve the same amount of disdain, but the left seem to reserve special ire for people from the right who do it, but positively encourage the doomsday cult and Marxist BLM to do the same. Seems odd behaviour to me.

[JAS]

...Regarding “senile old” Navy, just because Trump says it doesn’t mean there isn’t an element of truth in it. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The Democrats had a huge field to choose from as well as lessons learnt from 2016 and quite frankly their choice of candidate smacks of uninspired, one more heave fear. I also, like Soul think Buttingieg should have been better supported.

If Trump says something, you almost know for certain it isn't true - if his mouth's open, he's lying. Yep, Biden is getting old, but personally, I think a job like this needs some serious experience. Just perhaps, when Biden pauses, he's, you know, actually thinking.
Buttigieg is for the future. Going young, for young's sake, is stupid - look at Cameron when the Tories thought that doing a blue Blair was a good idea. Assuming Biden wins (big 'if'), think Harris likely to be the next President.

Yeah I get most of the logic behind that, although I didn’t think Cameron was a bad choice either at the time or taking a retrospective look now. They made made a right Horlicks of choosing leaders during the Blair years and thevye resumed that post Cameron. Don’t get me wrong I didn’t like him (obviously) but he really did do a decent job from a Conservative perspective.

[JAS]

I just would like consistency. I believe all of the high profile politicians and medical people deserve the same amount of disdain, but the left seem to reserve special ire for people from the right who do it, but positively encourage the doomsday cult and Marxist BLM to do the same. Seems odd behaviour to me.

Im left leaning and openly saying he’s been a dick, Christ what more do you want??

[Soul Requiem]

I just would like consistency. I believe all of the high profile politicians and medical people deserve the same amount of disdain, but the left seem to reserve special ire for people from the right who do it, but positively encourage the doomsday cult and Marxist BLM to do the same. Seems odd behaviour to me.

Im left leaning and openly saying he’s been a dick, Christ what more do you want??

I think though JAS you're a bit more balanced on these things than other posters.

[super_realist]

I just would like consistency. I believe all of the high profile politicians and medical people deserve the same amount of disdain, but the left seem to reserve special ire for people from the right who do it, but positively encourage the doomsday cult and Marxist BLM to do the same. Seems odd behaviour to me.

Im left leaning and openly saying he’s been a dick, Christ what more do you want??

To be fair Jas you have always said he's a dick which of course he is.
I was talking about the synthetic outrage from the left in general rather than pointing at individuals.

[McLaren]

Hopefully Corbyn is now so irrelevant that it doesn't matter that he failed to follow the covid guidelines.


Super

You talk of left and right, are you now coming to the realisation that you are easily centre right if not a little right of that?

[McLaren]

Harry and Meghan call to end 'structural racism'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54372900

[super_realist]

Hopefully Corbyn is now so irrelevant that it doesn't matter that he failed to follow the covid guidelines.


Super

You talk of left and right, are you now coming to the realisation that you are easily centre right if not a little right of that?

Wait a minute Mac, it was only yesterday you were telling us that prominent people can do what they like, it's their message that's important, now you're telling me that because he is less prominent then people won't notice his transgression?

[super_realist]

Harry and Meghan call to end 'structural racism'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54372900

They don't even know the meaning of that.

[navyblueshorts]

I wonder whether all those lefties who were so keen on seeing Cummings be sacked or resign will do the same for rule breaking Corbyn. I doubt it.

This says more about you, than them, I think. Your assumptions about 'lefties' aren't worthy of you.

Eh? If you rember rightly the left (especially) were rabidly frothing in regards to Cumming, but have been curiously quiet when their own comrades do the same (or worse). Its a lack of consistency which points to the fact that rather than be upset with the action, its merely a stick to hit the right with. Beninho admitted as much before.

It's your automatic assumption that 'lefties' won't condemn Corbyn that grates. Yes, I remember the Cummings saga well, but I only saw the Corbyn reported transgression this morning and he isn't part of/an adviser to the Cabinet (and therefore, responsible for any part of UKG messaging on Covid), so would expect there to be less 'froth'. That said, he's a bumhole and just confirms that he was utterly unsuited to any real responsibility.

[super_realist]

Well have you seen any who have? There was a virtual riot when anyone who isn't left did it.

[navyblueshorts]

...Regarding “senile old” Navy, just because Trump says it doesn’t mean there isn’t an element of truth in it. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The Democrats had a huge field to choose from as well as lessons learnt from 2016 and quite frankly their choice of candidate smacks of uninspired, one more heave fear. I also, like Soul think Buttingieg should have been better supported.

If Trump says something, you almost know for certain it isn't true - if his mouth's open, he's lying. Yep, Biden is getting old, but personally, I think a job like this needs some serious experience. Just perhaps, when Biden pauses, he's, you know, actually thinking.
Buttigieg is for the future. Going young, for young's sake, is stupid - look at Cameron when the Tories thought that doing a blue Blair was a good idea. Assuming Biden wins (big 'if'), think Harris likely to be the next President.

Assuming something to be false just because Trump agrees with it doesn't make it so Navy as you well know, all the evidence suggests that Biden doesn't have all mental faculties any more, it's obvious if you look beyond it being Trump saying it.

In fairness to Cameron come the next election the Tories will have been in power for 14 years so he didn't do too bad a job.

You're correct re. Trump - even he utters the odd thing that's actually true. On Biden, 'all the evidence' says nothing of the sort. Sure, he isn't what he might have been as a, say, 50-year old, but guess what? He's in his 70s. My memory isn't what it was now I'm in my 50s. I would assume and hope that, were Biden to win, he'd be considered in his approach and appoint a good Cabinet. You'd rather a hotshot moron how shoots from the hip and makes all sorts of cobblers of things?

[super_realist]

Whoever wins the election we could well see The President die in office as they're both coffin dodgers in poor health.

[navyblueshorts]

Harry and Meghan call to end 'structural racism'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54372900

Sorry? Did they say something? Moving on...

[Soul Requiem]

You're correct re. Trump - even he utters the odd thing that's actually true. On Biden, 'all the evidence' says nothing of the sort. Sure, he isn't what he might have been as a, say, 50-year old, but guess what? He's in his 70s. My memory isn't what it was now I'm in my 50s. I would assume and hope that, were Biden to win, he'd be considered in his approach and appoint a good Cabinet. You'd rather a hotshot moron how shoots from the hip and makes all sorts of cobblers of things?

Where did I suggest anything of the sort?

I'd rather a President with all his/her faculties intact.

[Soul Requiem]

Harry and Meghan call to end 'structural racism'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54372900

Are we supposed to give a toss what Harry thinks on the matter considering his chequered past regards to such things?

[navyblueshorts]

You're correct re. Trump - even he utters the odd thing that's actually true. On Biden, 'all the evidence' says nothing of the sort. Sure, he isn't what he might have been as a, say, 50-year old, but guess what? He's in his 70s. My memory isn't what it was now I'm in my 50s. I would assume and hope that, were Biden to win, he'd be considered in his approach and appoint a good Cabinet. You'd rather a hotshot moron how shoots from the hip and makes all sorts of cobblers of things?

Where did I suggest anything of the sort?

I'd rather a President with all his/her faculties intact.

You didn't, to be fair and, yes, you'd prefer someone w/ all faculties intact, but are you seriously buying into the Trumpian line? On the basis of FA actual real evidence? Good grief.

[Soul Requiem]

You're correct re. Trump - even he utters the odd thing that's actually true. On Biden, 'all the evidence' says nothing of the sort. Sure, he isn't what he might have been as a, say, 50-year old, but guess what? He's in his 70s. My memory isn't what it was now I'm in my 50s. I would assume and hope that, were Biden to win, he'd be considered in his approach and appoint a good Cabinet. You'd rather a hotshot moron how shoots from the hip and makes all sorts of cobblers of things?

Where did I suggest anything of the sort?

I'd rather a President with all his/her faculties intact.

You didn't, to be fair and, yes, you'd prefer someone w/ all faculties intact, but are you seriously buying into the Trumpian line? On the basis of FA actual real evidence? Good grief.

That's false equivalence Navy. I had my up my own mind about Biden long before Trump made any such comments, his inability to string a sentence together during the primaries was an eye opener.

[McLaren]

Hopefully Corbyn is now so irrelevant that it doesn't matter that he failed to follow the covid guidelines.


Super

You talk of left and right, are you now coming to the realisation that you are easily centre right if not a little right of that?

Wait a minute Mac, it was only yesterday you were telling us that prominent people can do what they like, it's their message that's important, now you're telling me that because he is less prominent then people won't notice his transgression?

No, my hope is that he has so little influence on mainstream politics that it doesn't matter what the consequences are for him.

[JAS]

You're correct re. Trump - even he utters the odd thing that's actually true. On Biden, 'all the evidence' says nothing of the sort. Sure, he isn't what he might have been as a, say, 50-year old, but guess what? He's in his 70s. My memory isn't what it was now I'm in my 50s. I would assume and hope that, were Biden to win, he'd be considered in his approach and appoint a good Cabinet. You'd rather a hotshot moron how shoots from the hip and makes all sorts of cobblers of things?

Where did I suggest anything of the sort?

I'd rather a President with all his/her faculties intact.

You didn't, to be fair and, yes, you'd prefer someone w/ all faculties intact, but are you seriously buying into the Trumpian line? On the basis of FA actual real evidence? Good grief.

That's false equivalence Navy. I had my up my own mind about Biden long before Trump made any such comments, his inability to string a sentence together during the primaries was an eye opener.

I suppose the thing is it’s NOT a “who can piss highest up the wall contest” although Trump would probably like to make it so. If Biden surrounds himself with competent staffers and ministers (or whatever yanks call them) and delegates he’ll be ok. Trumps got far too big an ego to delegate anything other than blame. He is the worst kind of leader imaginable. How can a government function properly with such a high turnover of personnel. Bidens age isn’t ideal but he can bring on the next set of Democrats when he gets in.

[Soul Requiem]

I'll be interested to see what the reaction will be in America when Kamala Harris becomes President via the backdoor when Biden inevitably steps down.

[super_realist]

I'll be interested to see what the reaction will be in America when Kamala Harris becomes President via the backdoor when Biden inevitably steps down.

When he dies more like, does anyone think he can last another 4 years? No chance

[JAS]

I'll be interested to see what the reaction will be in America when Kamala Harris becomes President via the backdoor when Biden inevitably steps down.

When he dies more like, does anyone think he can last another 4 years? No chance

.

Hang on a minute, he’s old but not coffin dodging old, ok he won’t be pumpin interns a la Clinton (I don’t think) but equally I don’t think he’ll die in the job either.

It will be interesting to see how Harris develops as a 2024 or 28 contender. Equally it’ll be fascinating to see how a post Trump Republican Party reinvents itself/airbrushes out the past 4 years.

[navyblueshorts]

You're correct re. Trump - even he utters the odd thing that's actually true. On Biden, 'all the evidence' says nothing of the sort. Sure, he isn't what he might have been as a, say, 50-year old, but guess what? He's in his 70s. My memory isn't what it was now I'm in my 50s. I would assume and hope that, were Biden to win, he'd be considered in his approach and appoint a good Cabinet. You'd rather a hotshot moron how shoots from the hip and makes all sorts of cobblers of things?

Where did I suggest anything of the sort?

I'd rather a President with all his/her faculties intact.

You didn't, to be fair and, yes, you'd prefer someone w/ all faculties intact, but are you seriously buying into the Trumpian line? On the basis of FA actual real evidence? Good grief.

That's false equivalence Navy. I had my up my own mind about Biden long before Trump made any such comments, his inability to string a sentence together during the primaries was an eye opener.

Fair enough .

[super_realist]

Hes a month off 78 now which is pretty old and that is actually the life expectancy of a US male and he will be 81/82 after any first term he might conceivably win. That's pretty old for someone who already looks pretty frail and infirm.

[navyblueshorts]

You're correct re. Trump - even he utters the odd thing that's actually true. On Biden, 'all the evidence' says nothing of the sort. Sure, he isn't what he might have been as a, say, 50-year old, but guess what? He's in his 70s. My memory isn't what it was now I'm in my 50s. I would assume and hope that, were Biden to win, he'd be considered in his approach and appoint a good Cabinet. You'd rather a hotshot moron how shoots from the hip and makes all sorts of cobblers of things?

Where did I suggest anything of the sort?

I'd rather a President with all his/her faculties intact.

You didn't, to be fair and, yes, you'd prefer someone w/ all faculties intact, but are you seriously buying into the Trumpian line? On the basis of FA actual real evidence? Good grief.

That's false equivalence Navy. I had my up my own mind about Biden long before Trump made any such comments, his inability to string a sentence together during the primaries was an eye opener.

I suppose the thing is it’s NOT a “who can piss highest up the wall contest” although Trump would probably like to make it so. If Biden surrounds himself with competent staffers and ministers (or whatever yanks call them) and delegates he’ll be ok. Trumps got far too big an ego to delegate anything other than blame. He is the worst kind of leader imaginable. How can a government function properly with such a high turnover of personnel. Bidens age isn’t ideal but he can bring on the next set of Democrats when he gets in.

This. Trump couldn't even get that right. Those who actually were competent initially wouldn't roll over for him, so he sacked them or they walked.

[navyblueshorts]

Hes a month off 78 now which is pretty old and actually the life expectancy of a US male and will be 81 after any first term he might win. That's pretty old for someone who already looks pretty frail and infirm.

He'll have the best health care access. I wouldn't necessarily bet on it, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he decided to make it clear early on that he'll be a one-term President regardless. He could even win and then step down formally and let Harris take over. Basically, it's about stopping Trump.

[super_realist]

Hes a month off 78 now which is pretty old and actually the life expectancy of a US male and will be 81 after any first term he might win. That's pretty old for someone who already looks pretty frail and infirm.

He'll have the best health care access. I wouldn't necessarily bet on it, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he decided to make it clear early on that he'll be a one-term President regardless. He could even win and then step down formally and let Harris take over. Basically, it's about stopping Trump.

Health care doesn't keep you alive indefinitely.  He looks terrible, his face looks like Niki Lauda and he doesn't seem too sharp at all. Looks like he's about to go downhill very quickly.

[navyblueshorts]

I'll be interested to see what the reaction will be in America when Kamala Harris becomes President via the backdoor when Biden inevitably steps down.

When he dies more like, does anyone think he can last another 4 years? No chance

Good grief! He's not unwell. He's not even overweight.

[navyblueshorts]

Hes a month off 78 now which is pretty old and actually the life expectancy of a US male and will be 81 after any first term he might win. That's pretty old for someone who already looks pretty frail and infirm.

He'll have the best health care access. I wouldn't necessarily bet on it, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he decided to make it clear early on that he'll be a one-term President regardless. He could even win and then step down formally and let Harris take over. Basically, it's about stopping Trump.

Health care doesn't keep you alive indefinitely.  He looks terrible, his face looks like Niki Lauda and he doesn't seem too sharp at all. Looks like he's about to go downhill very quickly.

If you say so. I bow to your greater insight.

[McLaren]

Didn't realise Biden was 78, Bill Clinton is only 74.

[super_realist]

Didn't realise Biden was 78, Bill Clinton is only 74.

Yeah because Biden looks so young Mac.

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