TNA Slammiversary Spoilers

TNA Slammiversary celebrates nine years since the company's birth. Tonight the founder of the company challenges Kurt Angle once and for all for his Olympic Gold Medal - plus number one contendership for the World Title is on the line. Other matches include Samoa Joe vs. Crimson, AJ Styles vs. Bully Ray and for the World Heavyweight Title, The Icon Sting defends against number one contender Mr Anderson.


Slammiversary opens with a video package focussing on the core matches tonight. We see what's happened so far in the Anderson/Sting story. We see how Ken Anderson has been mocking The Icon and disrespecting what Sting stands for. We see footage of Karen Angle getting injured before Jeff Jarrett's battle with Kurt Angle tonight. We're reminded of the bizarre transformation in Angelina Love, we see how far AJ Styles and Bully Ray have come in their rivalry and soon we come Live into the Impact Zone in Orlando, Florida.
Mike Tenay and Taz bring us in on commentary as we get set for our first bout of the night.


British Invasion vs. James Storm & Alex Shelley (c)
TNA World Tag Team Championships
Robert Roode joins commentary and first tells us that his rehab's going well and he'll be back in action in just a couple of weeks. Alex Shelley's MotorCity Machine Guns' partner is currently injured and so Shelley's taken Roode's place in this Tag Title defence for Beer Money here tonight. James Storm and Alex Shelley begin the match well, showing how they can tag off one anothers backs and work together to double team dropkick the British Invasion to the canvas. Storm and Shelley tag well against Magnus and then Williams and the two of them seem to be very much on the same page in this contest. Remember, this past week on Impact Wrestling Shelley and Storm accidently collided and this led to a loss. In the match at hand they look great, but eventually Douglas Williams gets the better of Shelley and he tags in Magnus as the British Invasion then have a spell on top, halfing the ring thus taking Shelley from his corner. Williams and Magnus show what they are capable of and they ground Alex Shelley, picking up many Two-counts and dominating Shelley throughout quite some several minutes of the match. Williams attempts the Rolling Chaos, but Shelley counters and James Storm pound the turnbuckle to get the fans to support Shelley over or the tag. Storm comes in like a house on fire and takes on both Magnus and Williams. Storm gets a DDT on Williams and gets Two on the cover. Magnus tries to get involved, but Storm does well to force Williams right on top of his own partner on the outside. Storm then splits the ropes to set up Alex Shelley and and the Gun goes suicide dive through the ropes, right onto the British Invasion at ringside. Back in the ring Shelley and Storm work well to further dominate the British Invasion. Storm taunts "BEER!" and at commentary Roode follows up with "MONEY!" and th contest goes on with Alex Shelley perfoming a Warrior's Way right through the chest of Douglas Williams. The contest goes on, but chemistry issues surface between Storm and Shelley because Storm accidently spits beer into his partner's face. Alex Shelley then accidently follows with a kick to James Storm. This is bad for 'Gun Money' because the British Invasion get the upper hand and almost beat them. In the end though Storm and Shelley work together well and Shelley sets Storm up for the Last Call Super-kick and that's all she wrote.
Winners and Still TNA World Tag Team Champions: Beer Money (Storm and Shelley).

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We're shown two seperate video's of Jeff Jarrett and Kurt Angle entering the venue earlier tonight.

Backstage Impact Wrestling interviewer Jeremey Borash talks to the Big Bad Booty Daddy Scott Steiner and Scotty tells Borash that tonight he's going to beat the DNA out of TNA and squash the giant Matt Morgan.

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Scott Steiner vs. Matt Morgan
It's well documented that Steiner and Morgan have come to hate each other and this match-up goes as many would expect. The two exchange holds first off and Morgan soon grounds Steiner before setting up for dominating Steiner around ringside. Morgan targets Steiner's lower back, ramming it into the ring apron before getting him back in the ring and setting up for his slam dunk type move into the corner. Steiner low-blows Matt Morgan without the referee seeing and he turns tha match on it's head. Steiner performs a nice belly to belly to get only Two on the cover as the match goes on. Steiner is often using his experience to gain any upper hand he can and he grounds Matt Morgan with a Steiner-line clothesline before covering and then letting go to perform his push-ups. This is classic Scott Steiner, dominating the match and making sure his opponent knows who he's in the ring with. Steiner corners Morgan to lay into him with knifeedge chops. Morgan finally gets some momentum, big booting Scotty down and now the fans feed Morgan some energy. Morgan then splashes Steiner in the corner before nailling him with a side-wlak slam and getting Two on the cover. Morgan performs a sit-down slam and gets Two again. Morgan gets frustrated at not being able to put Steiner away and this leads to a loss of focus and Steiner gets himself back in the match. The contest goes back and forth with both men almost winning the match with near falls, but Steiner gets teh Steiner Recliner on Morgan. The Blueprint Matt Morgan struggles, but eventually he impressively stands up out of the move and Steiner counters with a victory roll! One, Two - oh and that was close. The two exchange again and Morgan finally hits the Carbon Footprint and this one's over.
Winner: Matt Morgan.

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Backstage Jeremey Borash talks to Jeff Jarrett and The King Of The Mountain says that he's taken everything from Kurt Angle and tonight it's the final straw. He says that on Impact this week he'll be the one that's standing on a podium much like Angle was in 1996. Jeff will be on the podium and Kurt Angle will be awarding him with the Olympic Gold Medal. Jarrett states that this win tonight is dedicated to his wife Karen Jarrett.
We're shown a video package that tells the recent history of the X-Division Title. Abyss, Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan have dubbed the Belt as the X-Treme Title, proclaiming that the X-Division is dead. Superstars such as Kazarian and Brian Kendrick beg to differ and tonight a Triple Threat match for the X-Division Title is on the line.

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Kazarian vs. Brian Kendrick vs. Abyss (c)
X-Division Championship
It's dubbed the X-Treme Title, but X-Division is it's name and Kaz and Kendrick want to take it back for their no-limits colleagues here tonight. Kazarian starts off well against Abyss, but The Monster decks him in the ring. Brian Kendrick then steps to Abyss, taunting him first and then he follows up with a series of quick dropkicks. Abyss is resilient though and he press slams Kendrick right onto Kaz on the outside. The comms discuss what this Belt means to the wrestler's of the X-Division and they tell that given that this Title is a foundation of Impact Wrestling, there is no understanding as to why guys like Eric Bischoff would want rid of the concept. The match goes on in and out of the ring and eventually Kaz and Kendrick do well to double team Abyss one after the other in the middle of the ring, but Abyss counters Kendrick with a Black Hole Slam anyway and Kazarian is left to get big booted down by The Monster. Abyss is back in the driver's seat, choking Kazarian in the corner before open palm chopping him right on the chest. Brian Kendrick tries to get back in the match, but Abyss befalls him to ringside with a huge headbutt. Abyss focusses on Kaz, wearring him down even though The Monster himself is bleeding from his chin. Abyss is overpowering Kazarian, twisting his head upon his shoulders in the middle of the ring. Kaz tries to valiantly fight back, but Abyss corners him and sets him up to take him down hard with a huge Shock Treatment backbreaker. Abyss then goes for a Vader-bomb like splash, but Kaz moves and this leads Brian Kendrick to come in and mount some offence on Abyss. Kendrick is full of energy as he missile dropkicks Abyss from off the top rope. He kicks and punches with all his might before coming off the top rope to DDT Abyss down. Kendrick goes hard at it, but soon Abyss swats him down as if he were a fly. Kazarian gets back into the contest and the pattern is there with Abyss just taking his two oppoenents in turns here. Kendrick and Kazarian eventually become a lot for Abyss to handle, double teaming him and even double-pinning him on occaison. Eventually Kaz and Kendrick befall Abyss out of the ring and they then battle one another with Kaz almost nailling the Flux Capacitor out the corner, but Kendrick counters and here's some great X-Division action. Abyss is smart though and as Kendrick gets some momentum, The Monster snatches him out of the ring and he takes advantage of Kendricks prior Shinning Wizard and Abyss retains the X-Division Gold.
Winner and Still X-Division Champion: Abyss.


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We're shown a video package focussing on the rivalry between Crimson and Samoa Joe. Crimson is on a winning streak, but Samoa Joe wants to stop the run and make sure Crimson doesn't overtake Joe's winning streak from many years prior.


Samoa Joe vs. Crimson
Crimson sprints down to the ring upon his entrance and he goes straight at Samoa Joe. The comms discuss how this is already like a continuation of the two wrestler's bar fight that occured this past week. Crimson gets on top early, countering Joe's suicide dive before getting him back in the ring and drilling knees into Joe's head before getting a Two on the cover. Crimson targets Joe's head, trying to imobilize him, but Joe comes back to target the knee and Crimson is now down trying to get himself back in the match. The Impact Zone is split with who they cheer as wee see Samoa Joe go on to take it to Crimson's knee, even performing an inovative spine-buster like move on the knee rather than the lower back. Crimson often has to reach for the ropes as Joe gains cofidence by Crimson's scrambling. Joe applies the spinning toe-hold twice over, but Crimson clutches Joe's head in a headscissor hold. Joe gets the ropes and the contest continues, intriguing, will Crimson be able to keep his winning streak in tact here? Not according to Joe who performs an amazing over the head German suplex followed by a huge clothesline and then Samoa Joe gets Two on the cover. Joe dominates again, targetting the knee again with a single-leg crab, but Crimson gets to the ropes. Samoa Joe is on point, he's a seasoned wrestler and he won't take any rudey poo from anybody. The match goes on as both wrestler's get tired but Crimson comes at Joe with an explosive spear! What a move and both men are down. Back and forth the match goes and Joe almost clutches Crimson up for a Muscle Buster, but Crimson counters with the Red Sky and that's it, Joe's down for the count, Crimson remains undefeated.
Winner: Crimson.


After the match Samoa Joe lends Crimson his hand to shake as a mark of respect, but he has some words to say to him. Crimson may have won tonight, but Joe will undoubtedly want more.

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Backstage JB talks to Angelina Love and Winter. Angelina Love has a shot at her sixth Champioship up next. She and Winter look focussed.

Angelina Love w/ Winter vs. Mickie James (c)

Two of the most athletically gifted women in the business go at it with Angelina using Mickie's own hair against her, tossing the Champ across the ring. This is a different Angelina Love than what we are used to. She's vicious and whatever spell or whatever time period she thinks she's in, thanks to Winter, Angelina is a strong favorite to beat Mickie here because James truly doesn't know what she's up against. Winter is to be watched at ringside as Mickie performs a nice headscissors out of the corner. This is what Mickie has to do, she has to stick to her game and win by her style. Tough to do though as Angelina distracts the referee and Winter drags Mickie to land splat at ringside. Angelina dominates Mickie back in the ring, but Mickie is gritty in her fightback. Every time Mickie gets the upper hand though, Angelina resourcefully throws Mickie to ringside for a Winter storm. This time though Love follows out on her own and looks to slam Mickie into the stairs, but James reverses and Angelina takes a lot of punishment with the impact. Winter sees to her girl as Mickie gets back into the ring. The contest continues back in the squared circle and Mickie James gains control of the match, Thesz Pressing Love from off the top rope. Winter gets involved as much as he can, but the ref doesn't do much and another major distraction from Winter leads to a Botox Injection nailling the Knockouts Champion. Angelina's in control and goes for the cover, but Mickie has the bottom rope. Winter tries to push her arm off, but finally the referee sees Winter's antics and these antics continue to the end with Winter even holding Angelina's arm on a cover one time. Mickie is resiliant though and in the end she successfully retains her Title.

Winner and Still Knockouts Champion: Mickie James.

Winter and Angelina Love are both furious after the match and they choke James with a waist belt to leave her choking in the middle of the ring. Mickie's still the Champ, but it's Winter and Angelina who walk away on their own accord.

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Backstage Bully Ray tells Jeremey Borash that he will be the Last Man Stand tonight because he's going to beat AJ Styles within an inch of his life.

A video package shows how Bully Ray has come about since being a Dudley Boy and since he joined Immortal, Bully Ray's targetted AJ Styles as a sacrificial lamb to his bullying antics. Bully Ray has put Styles through a lot of pain, but maybe Styles will surprise him tonight. Last Man Standing coming up next!

Bully Ray vs. AJ Styles

Last Man Standing match

There's a lot of trash talking as the opening bell rings and the contest catches fire as AJ starts off well, but Bully Ray corner's Styles and the two exchange back and forth. AJ unleashes new moves in his repetoire, nailling Ray with headbutts. Bully Ray decks Styles and puts all his weight on him with a huge elbow. Ray continues on top, back body dropping Styles all the way across the ring before train-rushing him with all his weight in the corner. The referee often counts every time that a wrestler is down and soon the match spills to ringside with Bully Ray in total control. Bully Ray grabs himself the steel steps and he uses them to his advantage, slamming Styles off the sides of the steel. Ray tips the steps onto Styles and stands on them with all his weight on AJ. The fans boo Ray as he takes it to AJ all the way around ringside. AJ claws himself back into the ring, but Bully Ray slams open palm slaps into the centre of Styles chest. AJ valiantly asks for another one and Ray obliges with a huge slap again. AJ asks for more, tieing himself to the top rope and asking for another and Ray does it, smashing Styles chest with another open slap. Styles then asks for a punch right on the jaw and Bully Ray hits him and AJ folds up like a legless boxer, going down swinging. Styles gets up and innvites Ray in for another, but he goes back at Bully Ray with punches and slaps of his own before nailling Ray with a standing side-volley before going to the apron and springboarding back in the ring with a huge flying forearm to Bully Ray's face. Ray gets up at the count of Six and goes top rope, but AJ hits him with the Pele. This leads to AJ going top rope with Ray, but as Styles tries a Frankensteiner, Bully Ray counters with a huge sit-down powerbomb! The match soon spills to ringside where Bully Ray brings out a thick metal chain, but he misses on whipping AJ and Styles takes the chain to wrap it round his fist and smash it into Ray's face. Bully Ray is busted violently open and Styles goes at him to get him back in the ring and perform a springboard 450 splash from off the apron. Ray gets up at Nine and Styles then launches him out of the ring right onto the steel steps at ringside. Styles follows up impressively taking it to Ray, proving that he is a crazy Redneck. The contest goes back and forth from here, Styles failling with a Styles Clash as Ray takes over and takes Styles all the way up the stage. He attempts his powerbomb from from off the stage, but Styles counters with two Pele's before Bully Ray tumbles from off the stage and AJ runs to srpint off the stage and clobber Ray down, but he still gets up at Nine. Styles finds himself a table and a steel chair and he whacks at Bully Ray to set him up on the wood. Styles climbs to the stage, no way can he do this? He's going to do worse, Styles climbs the scaffolding of the stage and goes way up high to land a huge diving elbow from way up high, all the way through Bully Ray! Styles tries getting up and he holds Ray's leg at the same time, but Ray boots him through the side of the stage! AJ goes head first through the stage panel and Bully Ray manages to get to his feet before Ten wheras Styles is out. Bully Ray's won this.

Winner: Bully Ray.

Both men get medical attention as they're both hurt. Bully Ray made it to his feet for the win, but he fell straight after. What a match, perfect for Slammiversary. Huge respect to these two awesome athletes.

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Backstage Mr Anderson tells JB that actions speak louder than words and tonight, Anderson is going to show us how to beat Sting. Anderson is mean to Borash and the fans boo in the background.

We're shown a video package that highlights how Mr Anderson has been an a**hole to the Stinger over the past month. Sting has the in-ring experience here, but as Anderson says, "Nice Guys Finish Last." Will The Icon be able to withstand the a**holes challenge tonight?

Upon Anderson's entrance he tells that tonight there will be a new World Champion and he'll hail from Green Bay, Wisconsin. As Anderson continues we see the Stinger creep up behind him and yell "Anderson!" right at his challenger and The Icon dominates Anderson all the way to the ring where the bell finally rings.

Mr Anderson vs. Sting (c)

TNA Heavyweight Championship of the World

Sting's got somewhat of a new look here as the comms reflect on his backstage attack on Anderson this pact week on Impact Wrestling. Sting's in a mainly red singlet with black scorpions. His face-paint is very messy and we can see that he's sporting a mustache/goattee like paint design. The referee lets the match go as Sting dominates Ken Anderson into the audience and Sting's bringing the level of violence he brought to Thursday night, he's brought it to Slammiversary. Sting ask the fans to move out of the way as he beats and batters Anderson all the way to the top of the Impact Zone. Sting finally drags Anderson back down to the bottom, throwing him into the wall before eventually getting him back out to ringside. Sting "Wooooo!"'s out to the fans and they're very much behing The Icon. Anderson uses this opportunity to get back into the match and he target's Sting's arm, wrapping it around the steel post before getting him in the middle of the ring, applying an arm-bar and wearring the Champion down. Anderson goes constantly at the arm and as much as Sting tries to fight back, Anderson gains confidence, mocking The Icon and even tries performing the Stinger Splash, but misses. Sting's weak as he can't capitalize and Anderson decks Sting in the middle of the ring for Two on the cover. Anderson trash-talks throughout, putting a key lock on Sting. The crowd "Whoooo!" to get Sting back into the match and it works. Discuss punch followed by chops lead to a series of clotheslines by Sting and he then back body drops Anderson across the ring. Stiger Splash connects and Sting then takes out the leg, attempting the Scorpion Deathlock, but wait Eric Bischoff comes down the ramp and causes a distraction. This leads to Anderson coming back into the match and performing a standing Green Bay Plunge on th Champion. One, Two - wow, that was close. The match goes back and forth with both men coming closer and closer to a Three-count. Anderson sets for a Mic-check but Sting counters, but Anderson goes for it again and nails it. That has to be it, the Champ is out of it; One, Two - ohhh and Sting kicks out! Sting kicks out! Eric Bischoff can't believe it. Sting gets back into the match, nailling a Stinger Splash before a devastating Scorpion Deathdrop! The referee counts, but Bischoff interrupts the count, banging the canvas himself. Sting thinks he's got Three, but the referee tells him that he didn't. Sting continues the match, picks up Anderson - but what the hell, a low-blow - right in front of the referee?! What on earth?! Anderson hits the Mic-check and gets Three!

Winner and New TNA World Heavyweight Champion: Mr Anderson.



After the match Sting exits devastated as Kenny celebrates. Eric Bischoff has a big smile on his face and not only is there a Bischoff interuption on the finish, but there's also a blatant low-blow, that the ref did nothing about. Sting got screwed tonight.

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Via satellite Karen Jarrett joins the comms to state that Kurt Angle should be behind bars because it wasn't a fall that she suffered, it was a push! Karen says that when Jeff Jarrett wins tonight, she's going to take her ex-husband's Olympic Gold Medal, wear it around her neck and do to "big daddy" what she does best.

A video package chronicals the storied rivalry between Kurt Angle, his ex Karen and her new husband Jeff Jarrett. So far the Jarrett's have taken everything from Kurt, but Angle's pride and joy is wrestling. He made is name in 1996 by winning the Olympic Gold Medal with a broken freakin neck, that very same medal is on the line tonight.

Jeff Jarrett vs. Kurt Angle

Number one contendership/Kurt's Olympic Gold Medal on the line

Jarrett backtracks in the early stage as Taz describes wrestling Angle as toying with a stick of dynamite. You have to be careful, you can't make any mistakes because if you do, that dynamite will go boom in your face and Angle shows exactly what Taz means, exploding on Jarrett and dominating the match early. Angle clubs the back of Double J and we watch on as Jarrett gets back into the match, back body dropping Kurt over the top rope and Angle crashes into the steel raillings at ringside. Angle's left shoulder connected hard with the steel and Jarrett capitalizes, sending Angle shoulder-first right into the steel steps. Angle was on top in the opening stages of this match, but Jarrett totally dominates his nemesis back in the ring. The fans boo as Mike Tenay talks about what this means to Jarrett, dedicating what he's said will be a victory to his wife Karen Jarrett. The contest goes on and both men go for a cross-body and crash hard as the referee makes the Ten-count. Angle and Jarrett get up at Five and Jeff then grounds Angle in the middle of the ring with a textbook sleeper hold. Angle elbows out of it quickly and sends Jarrett from corner to corner before popping off an excellent German suplex. Both men are down again, they get up at Seven and exchange punches back and forth before Angle batters Jarrett down with two back elbows before grounding him hard with an excellent belly to belly. The contest goes back and forth with near falls and two attempted Ankle locks, but Jarrett always sees it coming and he gets Two on the count after a nice DDT on Angle. Jarrett attempts the Stroke but gets Angle Slammed for his efforts. Kurt hooks the far leg, One, Two - high stakes match and Jarrett kicks out. Angle attempts a moonsault, but it's way too soon and he misses and Jarrett rolls out of the way. Stroke coming, nailled by Jeff Jarrett - but Angle kicks out! Jarrett sets up for a tombstone-type piledriver, but after a topsey turvey back and forth, Angle drops Jarrett into the Ankle Lock! Jarrett struggles and rolls out of it, sending Kurt into the referee. The ref is down and Jarrett exits the ring to grab a guitar from underneath. He takes it into the ring and smashes it over the skull of Kurt Angle. Senior referee Earl Hebner comes down to the ring and he counts; One, Two - Kurt kicks out! Jarrett pleas and argues with the ref, but after shoving Hebner, Earl shoves him right into a trifecta of German suplexes. The match goes on, Angle placing Jarrett on the top turnbuckle soon he sprints up to throw him right over himself, crashing to the middle of the ring. Jarrett kicks out as the match goes on and Kurt pulls down the straps for the Ankle Lock. He get get it hooked and instead he rushes at Jarrett in the corner to miss and slam hard into the ring-post. Jarrett follows up with a Stroke from off the middle rope, but Angle kicks out! Jarrett then puts an Ankle Lock on Kurt and he grapevines it in the middle of the ring. There's so much on the line here as the crowd chant "USA! USA!" and it does the trick as Angle rolls through to grapevine Jarrett's leg into an Ankle Lock and after some struggle Jarrett taps with both hands.

Winner and new Number One contender to the TNA World Title: Kurt Angle.

After so much back and forth, the final battle between Jeff Jarrett and Kurt Angle lived up to the billing and replays show how Jarrett did all he could to take Kurt's Gold Medal. Angle was never going to let it go, kicking out after a guitar shot and then a middle-rope Stroke and finally he overcame his own move to become number one contender to the TNA World Heavyweight Championship. What a memorable night Slammiversary has been.

From what has been written, this sounds like a fantastic PPV and I have been proved wrong from what I said in a separate thread and I cannot wait to watch this!

What are your thought?
Glad that Anderson is champ? Angle v Anderson should be fantastic

It does actually seem that they are moving in the right direction, with only one thiung that sounds rubbish - the abyss X divison retention.

Everything else though:

Angle v kennedy
Bully Ray winning
The fact they are hinting that Joe v crimson isnt over (can forgive the result for that alone)
Even the Diva match seemed good.

Cmon TNA - keep it up

Hobo, I am happy to see Abyss with the title because I am holding out that they have Joe return to the X Division and wipe the floor with him. It will be that or they'll have a returning X Division 'legend' return and beat him

But I have to agree that they do seem to be moving in the right direction!

I agree, for all the slating TNA deservedly gets, this PPV sounds really rather good (and that’s with both Joe and AJ losing!), it’s on Wednesday night isn’t it?

Yeah, it normally it is Hero. 10pm on Challenge.

It will probably be up on wweo.net sooner though!

Result - the wife is away overnight on Wednesday - so I will be able to watch it! Huzzah!

I can't believe people are using terms like "fantastic", "really rather good", and "moving in the right direction".

It sounds ok on paper, a good Ray-Styles match and a decent Angle-Jarrett match, and a few ok undercard matches too, but the whole promotion is an overbooked mess. It's the same problem they've always had, but it's getting worse and worse: The undercard wrestlers have decent matches but aren't treated as important, while the main events are like slowed down repeats of something we've seen so many times a lot of years ago.

This report clearly came from either the TNA website itself or from a very easily-pleased fan.

I can only imagine how much money the company is losing on a monthly basis. I doubt it will get any better with Anderson as champion. I've never seen an audience so emotionally uninvolved with a character. He's so inconsistent that I genuinely don't know whether he is supposed to be a face or a heel. I can only presume that TNA and its apologists would refer to him as a 'tweener, without realising that is no excuse for a character having no constitution whatsoever, and that 'tweener characters only work if your booking is disciplined. One thing TNA is lacking above anything else is disciplined booking.

Normally I agree with you Crips but I've read a few reports on the event, some by guys who normally slate TNA and even they think it's a big improvement on recent events.

It was fairly good, wouldn't say fantastic. Not really sure why Angle-Jarret was the main event either, especially considering there was a title change. On the other hand I really enjoyed the AJ-Bully Ray match, best match of the night and an unexpected ending.

I wouldn't take a slap from Bully Ray if you paid me, there's no half-measures with that guy are there.. Good grief.

I've heard that the wrestling content itself was better than usual for a TNA PPV, although that's hardly a great compliment.

But the booking is woeful. Utterly woeful. The booking of this particular event, and the bigger picture in general. You've just had a guy win the world title who is neither a face or a heel, and as a result he isn't over (his catchphrases are over, but he isn't). The X Division angle is all over the place. The defending world champion heading into the event is fresh off a pinfall loss to a guy who wasn't even good enough to make the PPV....

Whether wrestling matters or not, the fact is a company will not grow with booking like this.

i hope sting has a nice rest after this shock defeat.

At least Sting v Hogan won't be for the belt!

what has losing money hand over fist have anything to do with this event and the way the direction of TNA looks to be heading.

Yes there is a load of dead wood there. Yes there are some terrible booking decisions over the last year. But lets look at the positive too.

Angle vs Jarrett - finally over.

Angle can now go on to give Anderson a proper feud and legitimise him.

Sting - can move on to the old timers section where he belongs. Feuds with Flair and Hogan - terrible wrestling ahead but most probably good entertaining story somewhere in there.

Bully Ray and Styles - great feud which continues.

Crimson vs Joe - two undercard who put on a seemingly good match and will get some air time in the ongoing feud.

To me it clears the decks of some awful talent and bundles them together allowing the younger talent to push through. A definite right direction.

I wouldnt get too excited.

Its happened too many times before. TNA put on a decent PPV and everyone gets their hopes up, then low and behold they screw it all up on the next episode of Impact and its back to square one.

I sincerely hope TNA finally do start stepping in the right direction, but i wouldnt start creaming my pants because they've put on a good PPV, we all know the likelyhood is that they'll change every fued and swap every face to a heel and vice versa before the next PPV!!

By the looks of this some people will bash TNA for anything they do....

Can you not just accept they put out a damn solid PPV, even in spite of the other rudey poo going on??

Watch it, enjoy the wrestling, because its for certain the best offering you will get from the major companies so far this year...

Also does anyone else see a Hogan/Bischoff split coming?? On Impact Hogan made his big speech about no screw jobs no run ins blah blah and then Bischoff goes and does exactly that???

hockeyking0011 wrote:By the looks of this some people will bash TNA for anything they do....

Can you not just accept they put out a damn solid PPV, even in spite of the other rudey poo going on??

Watch it, enjoy the wrestling, because its for certain the best offering you will get from the major companies so far this year...

Also does anyone else see a Hogan/Bischoff split coming?? On Impact Hogan made his big speech about no screw jobs no run ins blah blah and then Bischoff goes and does exactly that???

Well given the way that Hogan / Bully / Gunner etc have gone their own separate ways it does look as though there could be a breakup of Immortal with just Matt Hardy left there thinking that people care about him. Bischoff, Anderson, Gunner as a stable?

I watched Slammiversary on tnademand ,and i cant believe im going to say this but it was actually Good ! wont go over board and big it up anymore but a big improvement on previous ppv , descent matches although a few endings were rushed imo and the run ins were to much but overall a Good ppv.

Anderson v Angle next , good booking .

shoot me now i may have just praised Russo !

hockeyking0011 wrote:By the looks of this some people will bash TNA for anything they do....

Can you not just accept they put out a damn solid PPV, even in spite of the other rudey poo going on??

Watch it, enjoy the wrestling, because its for certain the best offering you will get from the major companies so far this year...

The usual stuff from TNA fans. I don't bash TNA for everything it does. I just bash all the bad things it does, which happens to be most things.

Of course I would accept they put out a damn solid PPV, if I thought it was a damn solid PPV, but I don't think it was! In fact I would love it if TNA held a PPV that put WWE's often-paltry offerings to shame.

If you're happy to hold the company to low standards, or you just enjoy the athleticism of the undoubtedly talented TNA undercard, that's fine. But this company will never succeed with such poor booking. Even the great athleticism is ruined by the booking (what the hell was the deal with the X Division title match?!).

It is the worst booked wrestling promotion ever. That is why TNA has terrible TV ratings, humiliating buyrates, and nobody on the entire roster who is a draw. The booking renders 90% of the matches meaningless, and personally I can't get invested in a meaningless wrestling match.

I agree 100% with crips.

I mean come on, the end of the World Title match, Anderson low blows Sting in front of the ref and goes on to get the 1-2-3. How lazy is that? After building the fued up over the last few weeks, Anderson dressing as Sting etc, are you telling me this is the best ending they could think of for Anderson to win the title? I sometimes have to read/watch twice to make sure i wasnt seeing things.

The mind boggles, it really does.

Hobo wrote:what has losing money hand over fist have anything to do with this event and the way the direction of TNA looks to be heading.

Yes there is a load of dead wood there. Yes there are some terrible booking decisions over the last year. But lets look at the positive too.

Angle vs Jarrett - finally over.

Or perhaps not

Hobo wrote:

Angle can now go on to give Anderson a proper feud and legitimise him.

or perhaps they can have Anderson lose cleanly to Gunner.

Hobo wrote:

Sting - can move on to the old timers section where he belongs. Feuds with Flair and Hogan - terrible wrestling ahead but most probably good entertaining story somewhere in there.

Bully Ray and Styles - great feud which continues.

or they could just not have either Bully Ray or Styles appear at all on Impact?

Hobo wrote:

Crimson vs Joe - two undercard who put on a seemingly good match and will get some air time in the ongoing feud.

or Crimson won't appear and they'll have Joe lose to RVD?

Hobo wrote:
To me it clears the decks of some awful talent and bundles them together allowing the younger talent to push through. A definite right direction.

And immediately afterwards they do an about turn and dump a load on the fans.

Ha bloody Ha!

It was a very good show, the ending of the World Title match was poor, the fans seem as if they expected a kick out, Tenay and Taz need to really sell certain situations more, TNA have been hiring models, they need to start hiring marks to give PPVs more atmosphere. How anyone can criticise before actually seeing it though renders there opinion worthless

You cant judge a wrestling show by reading spoilers. I've read the Smackdown spoilers for the last 2 months and it always seems terrible, but when i watch it i quite enjoy it.

Slammiversary was a decent PPV, but thats all it was, decent. Its easy to over hype it based on the usual poor standards of their weekly offerings so anything was going to be better than what we're used to.

It was a good PPV though, 7/10 for me.

Highlight of the show; Scott Steiner's promo. The man is gold on the mic!

No, but in all honesty I thought it was a cracking show with the only poor point being the title match and the way it ended. I also really think that Douglas Williams is criminally underused!

The AJ/Bully match was superb, not quite sure why the Title match wasn't on last

Yeah, the AJ/Bully match was first class. They really are both superb performers.

I think the Title match wasn't on last because they realised just how ridiculous the ending was and needed to end the show on a better note!

I agree with Gaffer about Tennay & Taz. I was expecting Tennay to get a bit excited about a few of the pins to convey the importance, but for most of it he was like "He's going for the pin, can he kick out... no, he hasn't.. that's it." Made a few matches feel quite anti-climactic in my opinion.

I can see that but surely the ending was more of a botch from the ref, he should have been looking at Bischoff when Anderson low blowed Sting, I actually liked the first part when Bischoff slapped the mat. That was realistic and believable

Not sure if anyone is having a dig, but here goes!...

As I keep saying, I'm not criticising the matches, firstly because they sound alright, but also because they have to be seen to be appraised. I'm criticising the booking. I think it's fair to criticise the way an event is booked without watching the event.

Mr Anderson's world title win is as badly booked as any I can ever remember. Not just the match against Sting (which was very badly booked) but the episodes of Impact before and the ones to follow. Who in the world thinks this was a strong title change other than the TNA bookers?

The booking of the X Division, as some kind of babyface faction who are fighting for the right to be put on entertaining matches (there is so much wrong with this as a storyline motive that it's incredible), who can't fight their own battles and need to team up to battle (and lose to) Abyss, and play a submissive role to the non-wrestling Eric Bischoff, is terrible. TNA constantly hammering home that these wrestlers are vanilla midgets and spot monkeys is totally unnecessary (whilst it's fair to say the characters making these claims are heels, nobody would even think it if the division was being booked properly! And it doesn't help the wrestlers' perception going forward). Who in the world would not rather see the X Division as a group of wrestlers who fight over a title, who have their own personal grudges against each other and who put on regular matches where the storyline key is winning or losing (and who do have entertaining matches as a by-product of that!), other than the TNA bookers?

The booking renders the matches almost pointless to me. I can understand someone watching the PPV and enjoying the wrestling, but please don't tell me I can't judge it without watching it. And even if the matches were fun to watch, if the wrestlers are performing out of their skins, if there is no context to them, or if the context is poor, they will be a failure. Financially, they will be a failure: TNA's ratings will continue to be in the same range they always are, and their buyrates will remain non-existent. And in my eyes, they will be a failure...

If a film script is dreadful, with plot holes all over the place, terrible dialogue, lots of loud explosions to distract from the lack of a storyline, and on and on, but it contained the greatest acting performances in cinema history, that would be a bad film. If Grease 2 was acted brilliantly, it would still have been awful.

I've read the script of Slammiversary 2011, and the best acting performances in the world wouldn't save it.

Joe v Crimson, I don't think I've seen someone so close to being decapitated by clothesline as when Joe clobbered Crimson. Brilliant!

I love it when we reduce ourselves to analogies, i gotta say

Also, how athletic is AJ Styles? Springboard 450 splash and connecting a Pele Kick to Bully Ray whilst he was on the top rope. Unbelievable!

Analogies are like a key to the lock of reason. Or is that metaphors?

Davies ever since your 606 dual with Lincs you've turned into him man, everything you say is just so negative, every thread about anything today and all you want to do is find fault in it, we all know the bad and the ugly, you gotta be blind not to see it so whats wrong with discussing what we do like for a change

the-gaffer wrote:Davies ever since your 606 dual with Lincs you've turned into him man, everything you say is just so negative, every thread about anything today and all you want to do is find fault in it, we all know the bad and the ugly, you gotta be blind not to see it so whats wrong with discussing what we do like for a change

If I criticise the product I'm automatically negative? Well, that's because I think the product is bad and I want it to be good so I can be positive about it!

I can assure you I don't want to criticise TNA or WWE, but I think both have a really bad product at the moment.

I do not agree with the attitude of "if you don't like it, keep your mouth shut". If that's how you feel, don't read my posts. If that isn't how you feel, I'm not sure what your (negative) criticism of me is?

I'm just discussing wrestling - if the things I say are negative, maybe that's a bad sign for wrestling rather than a sign that I am a negative person!

I think he's saying if you had aids you'd probably be HIV negative!

Of course im only joking mate.

I agree with you though overall. Its very hard to find positives in pro wrestling these days. Sometimes i think its just me being a cantankerous misery and i need to get a grip!!

Actually, I see a lot of positives in wrestling Mr. H.

WWE Smackdown for one.

And I'm someone who is usually quite critical.

Yeah, to be fair, Smackdown has been the best thing in wrestling since the Draft. So i agree with you there.

Other than that though, there isnt really much else!

You all need to start watching Ring of Honor

Not sure about Ring of Honor, but since lunch i've had Ring of Fire.

Davies not once did I tell you or insinuate "if you don't like it don't watch" but you go out your way to be critical, it looks like you'd rather moan about a point that lets face it has been done to death instread of talking up something thats being done well, a few months ago you had a good go at Lincs (deserved) for finding fault with everything yet you've morphed into him

As someone who has always had lot of time over the years for both you gaffer and for davies, I feel the need to stick up for davies a bit here. Personally I don't think davies is as negative as you make out gaff, although I do agree that recently he has posted a few negative pieces, I think generally his input is very diplomatic and balanced. Both of you guys have knowledge in abundance and I enjoy reading what you both have to say, but at the end of the day we are all entitled to freedom of speech on a public forum so if you find crips' comments negative gaff then you should respond to them accordingly and put a positive spin on it. Would be interesting to see both sides of the coin from two very good posters.

I don't think he comes across balanced at all, his first post on this subject is anything but, he criticised the PPV without seeing it then basically dismissed the initial PPV report from someone who actually saw the event as nothing more than a TNA Press Release, as for the whole Freedom Of Speech caper, did you question Davies on 606 when he questioned why Lincs was so negative?

I actually just noticed old Davies said if I dont like his posts don't read them, its pretty impossible to miss them Davey boy when you write a novel on everything

the-gaffer wrote:I don't think he comes across balanced at all, his first post on this subject is anything but, he criticised the PPV without seeing it then basically dismissed the initial PPV report from someone who actually saw the event as nothing more than a TNA Press Release, as for the whole Freedom Of Speech caper, did you question Davies on 606 when he questioned why Lincs was so negative?

Nope I didn't, I don't want to come across as the Freedom of Speech Police, I just think looking at the bigger picture davies contributes more than just negative posts. I always thought you two got on well but clearly you aren't impressed with lincolnwasacrippledtart just now eh gaff! I'm sure when he's next online he'll reply but from a neutral perspective its been evident over the years that you are both good assets to these boards.

Right enough of the bromance I'm feeling too gay!

If he replies and I'm sure he will then one can only hope Hero is granted more web space

I wonder if he'll allow me to read it

the-gaffer wrote:I actually just noticed old Davies said if I dont like his posts don't read them, its pretty impossible to miss them Davey boy when you write a novel on everything

You insinuated that if I didn't have anything positive to say, don't say anything. I was merely suggesting that if you feel we should vet our contributions to the board, maybe you could just vet what you read instead. If you like, I could put a disclaimer at the top of my more negative posts (all of them perhaps!) warning if they contain very negative opinions.

I'm genuinely disappointed if it sounds like I defecate all over everything on this board. I don't intend to and I don't want people to think I am mean-spirited, or indeed a negative person, or that I am some kind of zealoted nutjob like Lincoln. I just give my opinions on wrestling, and I give them indiscriminately. I've been positive about lots of things. I'm always positive about CM Punk, I was positive about the Miz when others complained about his push, I'm positive about the heel R Truth, I'm positive about how easily TNA could turn things around with the right people in charge, I'm positive about Jon Moxley (sorry, Dean Ambrose) being a real star if pushed correctly, I was positive about, um, that PPV someone did once, and, er, that match, and that promo by that bloke.

Regarding TNA, maybe you're right, it's all old news, maybe it's just boring us all to tears when I criticise them. But it is also topical, ie it is happening now, and if I have strong opinions about it I should be able to state them. I'll try not to repeat myself though, I've probably made my points clear by now! I can tell you, I'll be the most positive person in the world when Russo, Bischoff and Hogan are gone from that company!

Now give me a big hug gaff. And you H. Come on, free hugs all round. Because, to quote Johnny Cash, ever since time nothing's ever been found that's stronger than love. Not negativity. Not even Dino Bravo.