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Siraj will have a couple of deliveries at Anderson. The lead is already a nice 25.
Siraj will have a couple of deliveries at Anderson. The lead is already a nice 25.
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Awful decision from the umpire that one.
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Have to agree, looked stone dead to me at first glance
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Robinson must be relieved that for once Hawkeye doesn't have one of his going over the top of the stumps. He has hit the pads a lot with his nip-backers in this match and been close but no cigar rather often...a good reward this time.
To get one of these quickly now and expose the middle order stroke makers would be the perfect follow up for England...pressure very much on. A better over from Anderson then too.
To get one of these quickly now and expose the middle order stroke makers would be the perfect follow up for England...pressure very much on. A better over from Anderson then too.
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GSC wrote:Have to agree, looked stone dead to me at first glance
I actually thought he was going to give it. He appeared to be almost ready to put the finger up ...but just couldn't bring himself to commit
I guess they tell themselves it will be reviewed anyway...
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[quote="KP_fan"]Starting with a lead of 360 odd and still with a lead of 150 in hand..... and deliberately foregoing the opportunity to keep bowling 3 more overs even though with spin in fading light to squeeze out an edge, a stumping or false shot from one of two top batters....for saving just 10 to 12 odd runs only....Root has blinked first
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Maybe he did but it was Pujara who was trying to get to sleep last night 9 shy of a century. As so often in cricket, you can still debate the rights and wrongs of the captain's decision but Root will be happy enough now. No doubt about that.
And probably even more now ....
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Maybe he did but it was Pujara who was trying to get to sleep last night 9 shy of a century. As so often in cricket, you can still debate the rights and wrongs of the captain's decision but Root will be happy enough now. No doubt about that.
And probably even more now ....
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That was Anderson at his world-class best in that over, Kohli had no answer.
How he didn't get a wicket was astonishing.
How he didn't get a wicket was astonishing.
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... but not.
I agree with Warne that Kohli reckoned he hit it from his reactions but DRS showed otherwise.
I agree with Warne that Kohli reckoned he hit it from his reactions but DRS showed otherwise.
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Well blimey what an over from Anderson !
Weird that : Kohli instantly looked around as the ball went by , just as you do when you've hit it...but ends up reviewing and saving himself. Surely he knew he'd clipped his pad only ?
Anticlimax for Jimmy. Tense stuff.
Weird that : Kohli instantly looked around as the ball went by , just as you do when you've hit it...but ends up reviewing and saving himself. Surely he knew he'd clipped his pad only ?
Anticlimax for Jimmy. Tense stuff.
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So still no 2nd innings wicket for Anderson How long has it been since his last one?
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Hi guildford.
You raise an interesting point about last night. Must admit I was , like KP_fan , somewhat bemused that Root didn't take that last couple of overs , with India surely not wanting to lose a late wicket and the odd ball doing something. But the idea of keeping Pujara in the nervous nineties...
Maybe. Not sure - he still needed nine after all . But anyway , you can say it worked
You raise an interesting point about last night. Must admit I was , like KP_fan , somewhat bemused that Root didn't take that last couple of overs , with India surely not wanting to lose a late wicket and the odd ball doing something. But the idea of keeping Pujara in the nervous nineties...
Maybe. Not sure - he still needed nine after all . But anyway , you can say it worked
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Kohli gone now though ! Robinson and Root combination and that's the big wicket...
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Kohli out.
He never looked comfortable this morning. The Anderson/Robinson duo deserves that for their efforts in the first ten overs this morning. Very good bowling.
Two away from the tail and the innings win looms large again.
He never looked comfortable this morning. The Anderson/Robinson duo deserves that for their efforts in the first ten overs this morning. Very good bowling.
Two away from the tail and the innings win looms large again.
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Robinson really has bowled beautifully this morning - as has Anderson since that first couple of overs. No surprise the two wickets have come.
Presume Pant will fight fire with fire so this could get spicy...
Presume Pant will fight fire with fire so this could get spicy...
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Jimmy gets Rahane and the Fat Lady is warming up her vocal chords...
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Finally Jimmy... well deserved
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And that's deserved for Anderson. Three in the first hour and England will be cruising home, albeit a day later than expected.
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That's the second innings wicket drought hoodoo done for Jimmy too...
Think we can call that England's hour
Think we can call that England's hour
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The Indians weren't good enough to nick off yesterday, they are today.
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Can't ask for more than that, yesterday was frustrating, but as said by others they are getting the nicks today from the same standard of bowling
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Wow, 400 test wickets in England for Anderson.
Broad in second on 341, Trueman 229, then Botham on 226. Highest non-Englishman on the list is, unsurprisingly, Shane Warne with 129.
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=1;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling
Now Pant's gone. He looks in horrendous touch with the bat. I think this is Alfie's 'A' scenario!
Broad in second on 341, Trueman 229, then Botham on 226. Highest non-Englishman on the list is, unsurprisingly, Shane Warne with 129.
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=1;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling
Now Pant's gone. He looks in horrendous touch with the bat. I think this is Alfie's 'A' scenario!
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Pant going a bit over the top charging Robinson , no ? Trying to put him off I guess but it seems a bit wild to go like that with only the rabbits to come.
Won't end well...
No it didn't Though that was more of a push.
I was wrong about a finish between lunch and tea. This will be over before lunch.
Call it "A+" ?
Won't end well...
No it didn't Though that was more of a push.
I was wrong about a finish between lunch and tea. This will be over before lunch.
Call it "A+" ?
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Pant with another embarrassing innings.
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Five for Robinson ? Not ? Astonishing...is Hawkeye drunk ?
I thought the ball before was pretty good too so maybe my eyes are failing...
Won't be long though , I suspect.
I thought the ball before was pretty good too so maybe my eyes are failing...
Won't be long though , I suspect.
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Another odd ball-tracking decision in this test.
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alfie wrote:Five for Robinson ? Not ? Astonishing...is Hawkeye drunk ?
I thought the ball before was pretty good too so maybe my eyes are failing...
Won't be long though , I suspect.
Something definitely wrong with the ball tracking, it's having every ball going more legside than I'm seeing it.
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Moeen bowls Shami with an absolute peach
Good call by Root to go to the spinner although it seemed counterintuitive at first...
England must fancy an early lunch.
Good call by Root to go to the spinner although it seemed counterintuitive at first...
England must fancy an early lunch.
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Unless Root sends seven men to the boundary rope for Bumrah's appearance, this will be done by lunch.
Good little morale boost for England knowing how susceptible India are to a collapse.
Good little morale boost for England knowing how susceptible India are to a collapse.
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Robinson has his five now though
Truly outstanding bowling this morning , really well deserved .
He could end up with seven yet ...
Truly outstanding bowling this morning , really well deserved .
He could end up with seven yet ...
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Robinson has 23 wickets on 4 test matches. That is some start to his career...
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Great achievement for Robinson.
Forced himself ahead of Overton and Curran in the pecking order.
Forced himself ahead of Overton and Curran in the pecking order.
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You watch Robinson bowl and you wonder why Curran was ever ahead of him in the pecking order, bowled brilliantly every match so far.
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Jadeja just having some fun now.
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Jadeja's fun is over now.
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Duty281 wrote:Great achievement for Robinson.
Forced himself ahead of Overton and Curran in the pecking order.
Certainly a great addition to the bowler squad. Looks the durable type too ; which is nice given the propensity of the speed fiends to break down fairly regularly.
Also don't think he should be pigeonholed as a "home" bowler : still to see ; but I think he might do a job in Australia.
Meanwhile , Overton gets his own back on Jade for those boundaries...nine down and England can have booze with lunch
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Test over. What a performance from England
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And there it is...another nice catch by YJB at slip and Overton finishes the job...
Innings and 76. Bit of a hiccup yesterday ; but a pretty dominant performance ; and a great response to the Lord's shock
Innings and 76. Bit of a hiccup yesterday ; but a pretty dominant performance ; and a great response to the Lord's shock
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Easy as you like, 8 wickets in just under 1 hour and 45 minutes, Overton applying the finishing touch.
England, despite numerous absent players, have controlled this series and are all set to push on to secure the series win in tests four and five.
There's a big gulf between these two teams in England, this was the first test of the series that properly underlined it.
Well done England.
England, despite numerous absent players, have controlled this series and are all set to push on to secure the series win in tests four and five.
There's a big gulf between these two teams in England, this was the first test of the series that properly underlined it.
Well done England.
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Its actually a disappointing end to this match by India. Granted they lost the match pretty much on the first day but i thought that they showed great fighting yesterday, so much so that i thought that they may even get a big enough score to force England to bat again.
Today appeared to me as if they just gave up. Not a great sign for them with two tests remaining.
Today appeared to me as if they just gave up. Not a great sign for them with two tests remaining.
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Match went largely as expected. Once England get on a roll this Indian batting line up will collapse time and time again. Pleased to see Pujara make runs as means he's in for the series now.
I don't want to come across as too critical but the survival yesterday was down to a large chunk of luck, on a different day they could have been 150-6. Rohit in particular could and probably should have been out much sooner.
I don't want to come across as too critical but the survival yesterday was down to a large chunk of luck, on a different day they could have been 150-6. Rohit in particular could and probably should have been out much sooner.
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Not sure it is fair to say India gave up. Was quite outstanding bowling from Robinson and Anderson with the new ball today...
Pujara a misjudgment before he got settled in. Kohli worked over by Jimmy and then done like a kipper by Robinson. Rahane also a typical Anderson victim.
OK then you might say Pant was a bit rattled as soon as he came in - no real shock he got out ; and the tail just isn't very good...
England will be rightly delighted by this result. But I think it would be a mistake to assume this means India will be there for the taking in the remaining matches. They have weaknesses : long tail , and difficulty in fixing that without messing up their bowling plans. And they rely a lot on a good start from their openers. But so do England : one big innings doesn't prove the batting is rock solid ; and bowler fatigue might leave some decisions for this week.
I am looking forward to more good cricket , without trying to guess what will actually happen .But will celebrate along with the team tonight
Pujara a misjudgment before he got settled in. Kohli worked over by Jimmy and then done like a kipper by Robinson. Rahane also a typical Anderson victim.
OK then you might say Pant was a bit rattled as soon as he came in - no real shock he got out ; and the tail just isn't very good...
England will be rightly delighted by this result. But I think it would be a mistake to assume this means India will be there for the taking in the remaining matches. They have weaknesses : long tail , and difficulty in fixing that without messing up their bowling plans. And they rely a lot on a good start from their openers. But so do England : one big innings doesn't prove the batting is rock solid ; and bowler fatigue might leave some decisions for this week.
I am looking forward to more good cricket , without trying to guess what will actually happen .But will celebrate along with the team tonight
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In the end the end came quite fast....last 8 bundled for 50 odd......
I think when the new ball broke the back of middle order with big 3 remaining just did not buckle down,
Indian's were circumspect...not sure whether to play or leave....pressure of runs and realization of being in a situation where they could get to safety got to them.....most manifested in Puajars shouldering arms.
Eng used the new ball well ...in these conditions new ball does things for 30 overs or so
Moeen produced the biggest Off break ever seen from an English spinner in Eng in the History of Game
Next game......shardul or Ashwin comes in for Ishant.....nothing more can be done, unless Kohli decides to drop himself
I think when the new ball broke the back of middle order with big 3 remaining just did not buckle down,
Indian's were circumspect...not sure whether to play or leave....pressure of runs and realization of being in a situation where they could get to safety got to them.....most manifested in Puajars shouldering arms.
Eng used the new ball well ...in these conditions new ball does things for 30 overs or so
Moeen produced the biggest Off break ever seen from an English spinner in Eng in the History of Game
Next game......shardul or Ashwin comes in for Ishant.....nothing more can be done, unless Kohli decides to drop himself
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Well I guess anyone checking the lunchtime score would be amazed to find it's all over.
This was the sort of score many would have expected when India batted again - but not after reaching 215-2.
Australia had 100 for the first wicket in the second innings at Nottingham in 2015 after being bowled out for 60 and they also had a good start at Melbourne in the second innings after their first-innings collapse in 2010. But they still succumbed rather tamely in the end
Now comes the worrying bit for England. They rarely lose two home Tests in a row, so this was the one they were going to win after Lord's. But they also have a tendency to throw in a horror show in the next Test after a good win.
Conversely, I think I'm right in saying that India have only once won more than a single Test in a series in England. Also, England's batting now looks immeasurably stronger than at the start of the series.
This was the sort of score many would have expected when India batted again - but not after reaching 215-2.
Australia had 100 for the first wicket in the second innings at Nottingham in 2015 after being bowled out for 60 and they also had a good start at Melbourne in the second innings after their first-innings collapse in 2010. But they still succumbed rather tamely in the end
Now comes the worrying bit for England. They rarely lose two home Tests in a row, so this was the one they were going to win after Lord's. But they also have a tendency to throw in a horror show in the next Test after a good win.
Conversely, I think I'm right in saying that India have only once won more than a single Test in a series in England. Also, England's batting now looks immeasurably stronger than at the start of the series.
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KP_fan wrote: Moeen produced the biggest Off break ever seen from an English spinner in Eng in the History of Game
Nah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGWOvWMDDc
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Duty281 wrote:KP_fan wrote: Moeen produced the biggest Off break ever seen from an English spinner in Eng in the History of Game
Nah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGWOvWMDDc
I was convinced this was going to be Vaughan to Tendulkar in 2002!
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Root's 27th Test win is an England record. It's one that he could well hold for a good while.
He's only 30 and at present there doesn't seem to be anyone likely to take over the captaincy.
Of course, if a possible successor were to emerge Root might want to emulate some of his predecessors and play on just as a batsman.
It's been remarked that being captain of the England cricket team is about as stressful as it gets in sport. Pakistan fans and players might argue that being Pakistan cricket captain ain't a bundle of laughs, either.
He's only 30 and at present there doesn't seem to be anyone likely to take over the captaincy.
Of course, if a possible successor were to emerge Root might want to emulate some of his predecessors and play on just as a batsman.
It's been remarked that being captain of the England cricket team is about as stressful as it gets in sport. Pakistan fans and players might argue that being Pakistan cricket captain ain't a bundle of laughs, either.
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Was joking last night with someone who had tickets today that theyd probably get a good day in. Alas...
Robinson really establishing himself as a quality bowler. With Jimmy/Broad unlikely to play every test when healthy, and Jofra/Woakes trying to work back to fitness it's a great time for him to step up.
Robinson really establishing himself as a quality bowler. With Jimmy/Broad unlikely to play every test when healthy, and Jofra/Woakes trying to work back to fitness it's a great time for him to step up.
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GSC wrote:Was joking last night with someone who had tickets today that theyd probably get a good day in. Alas...
Robinson really establishing himself as a quality bowler. With Jimmy/Broad unlikely to play every test when healthy, and Jofra/Woakes trying to work back to fitness it's a great time for him to step up.
At this point I'm not putting him up there with Robinson let alone Jimmy/Broad but Overton also had a more than useful Test and has kept himself in the frame.
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If only we could trade some seamer for batsmen
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Of all the days I could pick to go to the cricket, I chose the third day! Although I suppose better that the today's curtailed play, even if it was more dramatic.
Most of what I saw seems to have covered fairly well - Overton and Robinson comfortably England's best bowlers. Robinson bowled a touch too short and wide with the new ball, but settled into it well after that. Overton was also very good and they both bowled with excellent control which meant though India resisted well England still had plenty of runs to play with when the second new ball was due.
I thought it was astute captaincy from Root to get to the new ball with him and Ali and then say I will give my bowlers a rest overnight before deploying them with it.
I don't see how Curran can play in the next Test unfortunately. You could tell India were waiting for him to be introduced. I think you have to pick Woakes for him, and then if Jimmy needs a rest you go from there and pick Mahmood.
Most of what I saw seems to have covered fairly well - Overton and Robinson comfortably England's best bowlers. Robinson bowled a touch too short and wide with the new ball, but settled into it well after that. Overton was also very good and they both bowled with excellent control which meant though India resisted well England still had plenty of runs to play with when the second new ball was due.
I thought it was astute captaincy from Root to get to the new ball with him and Ali and then say I will give my bowlers a rest overnight before deploying them with it.
I don't see how Curran can play in the next Test unfortunately. You could tell India were waiting for him to be introduced. I think you have to pick Woakes for him, and then if Jimmy needs a rest you go from there and pick Mahmood.
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