2023 Rugby World Cup Tipping Competition

First topic message reminder :

POOL A
Fri 8 Sept France v New Zealand (8.15pm, Stade de France, Paris)
Sat 9 Sept Italy v Namibia (noon, Stade Geoffroy Guichard, Saint-Étienne)
Thu 14 Sept France v Uruguay (8pm, Stade Pierre Mauroy, Lille)
Fri 15 Sept New Zealand v Namibia (8pm, Stadium de Toulouse, Toulouse)
Wed 20 Sept Italy v Uruguay (4.45pm, Stade de Nice, Nice)
Thu 21 Sept France v Namibia (8pm, Stade Vélodrome, Marseille)
Wed 27 Sept Uruguay v Namibia (4.45pm, Parc OL, Lyon)
Fri 29 Sept New Zealand v Italy (8pm, Parc OL, Lyon)
Thu 5 Oct New Zealand v Uruguay (8pm, Parc OL, Lyon)
Fri 6 Oct France v Italy (8pm, Parc OL, Lyon)

POOL B
Sat 9 Sept Ireland v Romania (2.30pm, Stade de Bordeaux, Bordeaux)
Sun 10 Sept South Africa v Scotland (4.45pm, Stade Vélodrome, Marseille)
Sat 16 Sept Ireland v Tonga (8pm, Stade de la Beaujoire, Nantes)
Sun 17 Sept South Africa v Romania (2pm, Stade de Bordeaux, Bordeaux)
Sat 23 Sept South Africa v Ireland (8pm, Stade de France, Paris)
Sun 24 Sept Scotland v Tonga (4.45pm, Stade de Nice, Nice)
Sat 30 Sept Scotland v Romania (8pm, Stade Pierre Mauroy, Lille)
Sun 1 Oct South Africa v Tonga (8pm, Stade Vélodrome, Marseille)
Sat 7 Oct Ireland v Scotland (8pm, Stade de France, Paris)
Sun 8 Oct Tonga v Romania (4.45pm, Stade Pierre Mauroy, Lille)

POOL C
Sat 9 Sept Australia v Georgia (5pm, Stade de France, Paris)
Sun 10 Sept Wales v Fiji (8pm, Stade de Bordeaux, Bordeaux)
Sat 16 Sept Wales v Portugal (4.45pm, Stade de Nice, Nice)
Sun 17 Sept Australia v Fiji (4.45pm, Stade Geoffroy Guichard, Saint-Étienne)
Sat 23 Sept Georgia v Portugal (1pm, Stadium de Toulouse, Toulouse)
Sun 24 Sept Wales v Australia (8pm, Parc OL, Lyon)
Sat 30 Sept Fiji v Georgia (4.45pm, Stade de Bordeaux, Bordeaux)
Sun 1 Oct Australia v Portugal (4.45pm, Stade Geoffroy Guichard, Saint-Étienne)
Sat 7 Oct Wales v Georgia (2pm, Stade de la Beaujoire, Nantes)
Sun 8 Oct Fiji v Portugal (8pm, Stadium de Toulouse, Toulouse)

POOL D
Sat 9 Sept England v Argentina (8pm, Stade Vélodrome, Marseille)
Sun 10 Sept Japan v Chile (noon, Stadium de Toulouse, Toulouse)
Sat 16 Sept Samoa v Chile (2pm, Stade de Bordeaux, Bordeaux)
Sun 17 Sept England v Japan (8pm, Stade de Nice, Nice)
Fri 22 Sept Argentina v Samoa (4.45pm, Stade Geoffroy Guichard, Saint-Étienne)
Sat 23 Sept England v Chile (4.45pm, Stade Pierre Mauroy, Lille)
Thu 28 Sept Japan v Samoa (8pm, Stadium de Toulouse, Toulouse)
Sat 30 Sept Argentina v Chile (2pm, Stade de la Beaujoire, Nantes)
Sat 7 Oct England v Samoa (4.45pm, Stade Pierre Mauroy, Lille)
Sun 8 Oct Japan v Argentina (noon, Stade de la Beaujoire, Nantes)

Quarter-finals
Sat 14 Oct Wales v Argentina (4pm, Stade Vélodrome, Marseille)
Sat 14 Oct Ireland v New Zealand (8pm, Stade de France, Paris)
Sun 15 Oct England v Fiji (4pm, Stade Vélodrome, Marseille)
Sun 15 Oct France v South Africa (8pm, Stade de France, Paris)

Semi-finals
Fri 20 Oct Argentina v New Zealand (8pm, Stade de France, Paris)
Sat 21 Oct England v South Africa (8pm, Stade de France, Paris)

Third-place match
Fri 27 Oct Third-place Play-off England v Argentina (8pm, Stade de France, Paris)

Final
Sat 28 Oct World Cup Final New Zealand v South Africa (8pm, Stade de France, Paris)


Pick the Winning Margin:

N - Narrow	1 - 4  points
C - Comfortable	5 - 14  points
E - Easy	15 - 29  points
T - Thrashing	30 +  points

Scoring:

25 points for picking the correct winning team
20 points for picking the correct winning margin (N,C,E,or T)
75 points for picking the correct drawn result (D)
12 points for one rung off the winning margin
 0 points for more than one rung off the winning margin... but you still get 25 points for the win.
 0 points for a 'No Result/Match Abandoned'.

Double points for nominated *Golden Match*
Note: Select only one Golden match per Group = 4 matches
Select 2 GMs for the Quarters and one for the Semis = 3 matches
The Final and the 3rd place play-off match will also be worth Double Points.

Note:
For the 3rd Place Play-Off and the Final.
75 points x 2 = 150 points for a (D) "Draw" after 80 minutes regardless of the final score (i.e. the actual winner after extra time)

e.g.
New Zealand v Italy
"New Zealand E" GM - *Golden Match*
New Zealand wins 34 - 22 (margin 12 points = C) ... one rung off E = 37 points (25 + 12)... x 2 for Golden Match = 74 points.

Scotland v Romania
"Scotland T"
Scotland wins 53 - 11 (margin 42 points = T) = 45 points (25 + 20)

Japan v Samoa
"Samoa E"
Samoa wins 17 - 15 (margin 2 points = N) ... two rungs off E = 25 points (25 + 0)

General Notes:

Please get your selections in at least an hour before the first match kicks off. No points earned for late entries.

I know it's a bit of a task but it would be great if you can post the 40 group matches on the thread below. If there are any reasons you want to change your selection or winning margin - just post it up here and I'll give it a "like" meaning I've taken the change on board.

No problem if you only post up the first dozen or so selections in the coming days (to get the maul rolling) and then post up the rest up later on. Just be aware there's not many breaks in the fixtures so copy and paste the first cab off the rank... and don't forget to adjust the other person's selections!

Due to time differences - I'll try and get the Leader Board up asap. Might be a day and a bit delay but I'll keep you all regularly updated.

So, that's about it. I'll set up the spreadsheet and get ready for the feast of rugby.

Good luck with your picks and may your team go well!

Argentina v England. ENG N
NZ v South Africa. NZ C

Duty281 wrote:Argentina v England = England C
New Zealand v South Africa = Draw

Both games are automatically worth double, right? Do I need to put in an ET winner, or is it just for the 80 minutes?

Yes, both games are automatically worth double.

I think make it like the cricket tipping comp. If the teams are level after 80 mins = 75 points x 2 = 150 points. See part in bold in the OP above.

60 points more than a correct winner pick = 45 x 2 (= 90 points).

So, in your case Duty, you wouldn't have to worry about the actual winner after extra time... you'd already have the 150 points in the bag.

Hope that helps....

South Africa C
England E

I will sadly go for NZ, I just don't see, even if willing and motivated how the Boks can defeat a NZ team that is fresh and injury free.

Boks have been pummeled by Ireland, Scotland, Tonga, France and England. The All Blacks have been pummeled by France in week 1 and then Ireland two weeks ago.

NZ C
England C

NZ N
England E

Thank you.

NZ C
England E

Argentina C
New Zealand N

May as well go for broke... and an upset.

Pal Joey wrote:Argentina C
New Zealand N

May as well go for broke... and an upset.

The only upset would be a tired,boring, cheating, cynical Bok team to beat NZ

Oh, and don't forget lucky.

Argentina v England Eng E
NZ v SA SA C

Old Man wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:Argentina C
New Zealand N

May as well go for broke... and an upset.

The only upset would be a tired,boring, cheating, cynical Bok team to beat NZ

Oh, and don't forget lucky.

What about the cheating, ref intimidating Kiwis who always seem to get the rub of the green in big situations?

We all know cheating must be involved if England lose.....

Argentina-England England C
SA-NZ Boks C

doctor_grey wrote:

Old Man wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:Argentina C
New Zealand N

May as well go for broke... and an upset.

The only upset would be a tired,boring, cheating, cynical Bok team to beat NZ

Oh, and don't forget lucky.

What about the cheating, ref intimidating Kiwis who always seem to get the rub of the green in big situations?  

We all know cheating must be involved if England lose.....

If you don't talk about it, it never happened

One last gamble

NZ v SA draw
Eng v Arg Eng E

NZ v SA - NZ N
Eng v Arg Eng C

Points Table after Match 48 (The Final)

1933 doctor_grey
1932 Galted
1890 Old Man
1865 Duty
1817 RiscaGame
1781 andyi
1770 Irishhoneymonster
1700 Pal Joey
1688 alfie
1661 nlpnlp
1624 Lowlandbrit
1531 westisbest

Average Score: 1766
Total Correct Picks: 224/583 or 38.42%

Results:
England N
South Africa N

Notes:
Congratulations Doc!    

Well, that went down to the wire. Only one single, solitary point in it. Unbelievable.... just like the real match.  

The Doc went into the final 2 matches in 4th place but scored a pair of 74 points for the last two matches... or 148 points in total.

Galted, who was in 2nd place before the last 2 matches, scored a 50 and a 74... or 124 points for the last two games.

Old Man Biltong, who bravely lead the pack going into the final 2 matches scored 74 points for the Eng N win but ultimately sacrificed his hard-earned position at the top of the log... only to taste sweet glory when his beloved Boks achieved the real victory on the field. Congratulations, Corne!

The rest of us did pretty well too and were fairly consistent throughout. Of course, there were a few "all or nothing" panic selections towards the end but it was a great effort overall in getting all of your picks in across the whole 48 matches.

I thoroughly enjoyed running it and I hope everyone also enjoyed participating in it.

Maybe we should do it again in 2027... or perhaps I could do one for the 6 Nations? Let me know if you're interested down below.

Thanks again everyone. Top work!

FFS.  After the weekend's results I thought I'd get to be an insufferable kant for the next four years but instead will be a bitter one.

Congrats, Doc, and thanks PJ - hopefully Tino can learn from you about running a competition in so efficient a manner that it appears effortless, despite all the work that goes on in the background.  Doubt it though.

Pal Joey wrote:Points Table after Match 48 (The Final)

1933 doctor_grey
1932 Galted
1890 Old Man
1865 Duty
1817 RiscaGame
1781 andyi
1770 Irishhoneymonster
1700 Pal Joey
1688 alfie
1661 nlpnlp
1624 Lowlandbrit
1531 westisbest

Average Score: 1766
Total Correct Picks: 224/583 or 38.42%

Results:
England N
South Africa N

Notes:
Congratulations Doc!    

Well, that went down to the wire. Only one single, solitary point in it. Unbelievable.... just like the real match.  

The Doc went into the final 2 matches in 4th place but scored a pair of 74 points for the last two matches... or 148 points in total.

Galted, who was in 2nd place before the last 2 matches, scored a 50 and a 74... or 124 points for the last two games.

Old Man Biltong, who bravely lead the pack going into the final 2 matches scored 74 points for the Eng N win but ultimately sacrificed his hard-earned position at the top of the log... only to taste sweet glory when his beloved Boks achieved the real victory on the field. Congratulations, Corne!

The rest of us did pretty well too and were fairly consistent throughout. Of course, there were a few "all or nothing" panic selections towards the end but it was a great effort overall in getting all of your picks in across the whole 48 matches.

I thoroughly enjoyed running it and I hope everyone also enjoyed participating in it.

Maybe we should do it again in 2027... or perhaps I could do one for the 6 Nations? Let me know if you're interested down below.

Thanks again everyone. Top work!

Cheers mate, it should be illegal though that Doc tipped the Boks, that was cheating

Galted wrote:FFS.  After the weekend's results I thought I'd get to be an insufferable kant for the next four years but instead will be a bitter one.

Congrats, Doc, and thanks PJ - hopefully Tino can learn from you about running a competition in so efficient a manner that it appears effortless, despite all the work that goes on in the background.  Doubt it though.

Sorry Galted. Life is cruel, isn't it?

Really felt for you when those numbers popped up. You probably don't gamble but if I were you I'd pick the numbers 1, 23, 24 (the difference being 1 as well) as well as paying homage to George Lansbury... who became the Leader of the Opposition Party in October 1932.

Thanks for the compliment. I'll pass your kind words onto my Secretary.
She's a bit busy inputting Indian wickets for the cricket comp at the minute but I'll make sure she gets it.

Cheers for running. Well done to the Doc.

I was perhaps one point away from winning, which means I did better here than in the cricket version!

Fairly happy with my efforts really, especially as I went all in on the groups straight away.

Thanks for running it. Was very enjoyable.

It was a pleasure Risca and Duty.

Congratulations to the Doc ... commiserations to Galted - have a drink anyway

and thanks to PJ for running a fun competition again

(Slightly surprised I didn't finish last !)

alfie wrote:Congratulations to the Doc  ... commiserations to Galted - have a drink anyway

and thanks to PJ for running a fun competition again

(Slightly surprised I didn't finish last !)

Cheers, Alfie.  I've put on a brave face so far but the truth is that I'm barely able to face the future anymore.  Might kick one of the neighbourhood dachshunds along the Thames Path for a bit to help me to feel better.

Thanks for the pool Joey.  And thanks for being so open to bribery:  All that money confiscated from the Russian oligarchs put to good use!

Seriously, this was a good bit 'o fun and thanks again!