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Post by bsando Wed 07 Feb 2024, 7:42 pm

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England vs Wales

Date: Saturday 10th February 2024
Twickenham, London
Kick-off: 4:45pm
Referee: James Doleman (New Zealand)

TV Coverage: Live on ITV and S4C (UK) and RTÉ (ROI)

Teams

England

15-Steward, 14-Freeman, 13-Slade, 12-Dingwall, 11-Daly, 10-Ford, 9-Mitchell; 1-Stuart, 2-Marler, 3-George (capt), 4-Itoje, 5-Chessum, 6-Roots, 7-Underhill, 8-Earl
Replacements: 16-Dan, 17-Genge, 18-Cole, 19-Coles, 20-Cunningham-South, 21-Care, 22-Smith, 23-Feyi-Waboso

Wales

Winnett; Dyer, North, Tompkins, Adams; Lloyd, Williams; G Thomas, Dee, Assiratti, Jenkins (capt), Beard, Mann, Reffell, Wainwright.

Replacements: Elias, Domachowski, Griffin, Rowlands, Basham, Hardy, Evans, Grady.


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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:35 pm

Good first 5.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:36 pm

lostinwales wrote:On the bright side we were down to 13 and we scored the try

Managed that very well. Wales struggling to play a bit, I think England might have enough to put them away in the second half.

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Post by Mr Bounce Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:37 pm

FFS. Same mistakes over and over.

Nobody learns. No pride, no passion, nobody seems to care.

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Post by Heaf Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:37 pm

Guess we're not worried about coming in from the side at rucks then

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Post by RiscaGame Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:37 pm

Wales' bench will cost them, I fear. Good half, but I still can't see a Welsh win.

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Post by Heaf Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:38 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
lostinwales wrote:On the bright side we were down to 13 and we scored the try

Managed that very well. Wales struggling to play a bit, I think England might have enough to put them away in the second half.

I don't unfortunately ... too sloppy and not taking chances ...

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:39 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
lostinwales wrote:On the bright side we were down to 13 and we scored the try

Managed that very well. Wales struggling to play a bit, I think England might have enough to put them away in the second half.

Why?Feyi-Waboso presumably?!

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Post by Yoda Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:43 pm

We are so poor.

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Post by mountain man Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:43 pm

No question Wales better team so far. England need to improve. A lot.

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Post by Heaf Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:46 pm

So they showed the law which just says 'approach" - where the definition saying any move in any direction?

approach = come near or nearer to (someone or something) in distance or time.

Stepping sideways and standing still is not an approach for me ...

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Post by Heaf Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:46 pm

England are still rubbish anyway ...

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Post by lostinwales Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:50 pm

IFW won't make a difference unless he's given the ball in some space. Freeman hasn't had any passes that I can recall. Daly has done OK with what he's had.

Energy really dropped after that epic defensive set

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:51 pm

Heaf wrote:So they showed the law which just says 'approach" - where the definition saying any move in any direction?

approach = come near or nearer to (someone or something) in distance or time.

Stepping sideways and standing still is not an approach for me ...

Will look later but I looked it up a few years ago and honestly what I said was correct.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:56 pm

Come back to that Daly chance and just think he's not a winger really did anyone think yup it's finished...whereas if a Radwan had that you'd think perhaps otherwise?

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Post by mountain man Sat 10 Feb 2024, 5:58 pm

Will never know. I think Wales had enough defence

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:00 pm

These cross field kicks are really good by Wales.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:00 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:
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lostinwales wrote:On the bright side we were down to 13 and we scored the try

Managed that very well. Wales struggling to play a bit, I think England might have enough to put them away in the second half.

Why?Feyi-Waboso presumably?!

Yes, he could be a game-changer but our bench isn’t amazing either.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:02 pm

I don’t think Assirati as decent a player as he is, is suitable for this level. We could do with changing our TH at least now that England have a fresh front row.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:04 pm

Think the crowd are getting at the ref....which is good for Borthwick.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:06 pm

Our lineout is much better than I’ve seen it in a while. I suppose it will get steadily worse with Elias on.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:06 pm

Jesus.

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Post by mountain man Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:06 pm

FFS missing tackles!

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Post by mountain man Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:07 pm

Daly off IFW on. Now.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:10 pm

That should be an England pen.

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Post by Yoda Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:10 pm

This is turgid 🤢

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:10 pm

Feels a weird game. England have created sod all really but there's less than a converted try.

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Post by Yoda Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:11 pm

Borthwick needs to make changes asap. Daly has been poor again unfortunately.

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Post by Heaf Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:11 pm

So now picking the ball up in an offside position isn't a pen either? Can we sub the ref?

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Post by mountain man Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:15 pm

In fairness good by Daly there

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:15 pm

Nice by Daly. Good by Dingwall as that ball was targeted rather well.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:15 pm

Ford's missed/not taken conversions now the difference.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:16 pm

Come on the subs. Sneak us this please.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:19 pm

Just don't see either winger as sure fire finishers out wide.

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Post by lostinwales Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:19 pm

So Wales are all off their feet and the ball comes back on their side and its all OK?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:20 pm

70 minutes gone this attack is awful. If Borthwick stays he needs to axe Wigglesworth ASAP.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:21 pm

Mitchell has really come into the game in this half.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:22 pm

Back to the old tactic of kicking to Steward then…

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:23 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Back to the old tactic of kicking to Steward then…

Kept Borthwick in a job. You're playing the long game.

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Post by BigGee Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:24 pm

That's a YC

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:25 pm

That should surely mean we win.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:25 pm

Has to be the end of Grady’s international career for a while. That was stupid.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:26 pm

Ahead for the first time. 72 minutes.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:28 pm

Jesus.

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Post by lostinwales Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:28 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Ahead for the first time. 72 minutes.

All that matters is being ahead at 80

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:29 pm

lostinwales wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Ahead for the first time. 72 minutes.

All that matters is being ahead at 80

Really? Can sometimes be pure luck. Could be a bounce of a ball. This performance is dog doo.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:30 pm

That said Steward with two towering interventions could have won this for us.


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Post by Heaf Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:30 pm

What was that scrum pen for?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:30 pm

Heaf wrote:What was that scrum pen for?

Free kick. Early engage.

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Post by Heaf Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:31 pm

Thought he's signalled a full pen

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 10 Feb 2024, 6:32 pm

Lucky there. Dalt making a tackle off his feet.

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