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Post by bsando Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:18 pm

First topic message reminder :

Scotland Autumn 2024 Fixtures

Moving on from the Summer development tour, here are this years AI fixtures which will include a Scotland A vs Chile fixture on the final weekend. Plenty to be excited about as the new club season begins this weekend and depth is steadily improving.

Week 1
Scotland v Fiji
Scottish Gas Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
Saturday 2nd November 2024
Kick-off: 5:40pm

Week 2
Scotland v South Africa
Scottish Gas Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
Sunday 10th November 2024
Kick-off: 4:10pm

Week 3
Scotland v Portugal
Scottish Gas Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
Saturday 16th November 2024
Kick-off: 3:10pm

Week 4
Scotland A vs Chile
Hive Stadium Edinburgh
Saturday 23rd November 2024
Kick-off: 6:00pm

Scotland v Australia
Scottish Gas Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
Sunday 24th November 2024
Kick-off: 1:40pm


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Post by RDW Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:16 pm

BigGee wrote:Zander in doubt for  the Fiji game 'for personal ressons'

Currently Rae starting and Finn Richardson covering the bench. Could this be our next Daryl Marfo moment?

If he does not play, we will likely get away with it against Fiji and hopefully he will be back for the Boks

Who TF.is Finn Richardson...?

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Post by BigGee Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:36 pm

Glasgow academy TH prop. Was on Exeter books for a while and played for Cornish Pirates.

That should reasure you!

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Post by RDW Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:37 pm

BigGee wrote:Glasgow academy TH prop. Was on Exeter books for a while and played for Cornish Pirates.

That should reasure you!

Jeezo - didn't realise TH stocks were that grim!

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Post by BigGee Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:41 pm

They will improve a bit next week when Millar-Miles and Hurd become available but yes, we are struggling.

They are also keeping an eye on the 18 year old Ollie Blyth-Rafferty, who despite his tender years, seems to be a big strong lad!

He may well become our next decent TH, but goodness knows, we are relient on Zander atm!

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Post by Highland Shaun Fri Nov 01, 2024 11:08 pm

BigGee wrote:They will improve a bit next week when Millar-Miles and Hurd become available but yes, we are struggling.

They are also keeping an eye on the 18 year old Ollie Blyth-Rafferty, who despite his tender years, seems to be a big strong lad!

He may well become our next decent TH, but goodness knows, we are relient on Zander atm!

Would you start that Blyth-Lafferty bloke in the "A" game Gee 🤷🤷? In fact can you guys help me out and predict what the A squad could look like because I don't really know much about who could potentially be in that team 🙏?

Oh and regarding Zander, the offside line seem confident he'll be ok to play tomorrow 😱.

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Post by bsando Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:22 am

Score predictions for today? I’m going for 26 - 24 to Scotland.

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Post by jimbopip Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:06 am

bsando wrote:Score predictions for today? I’m going for 26 - 24 to Scotland.

Well, on 60 minutes when the front row becomes Suzz-Richardson-Richardson we better hope that the score is 26-0 and we will all be happy to lose the last quarter 0-24.

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Post by RDW Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:16 am

Without meaning to jinx it, this should be a comfortable Scotland win. That's an experienced international team we've put out.

Can see it being high scoring - 42-26 Scotland or something like that.

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Post by NeilyBroon Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:09 am

Price to create a hat trick.


... For Fiji.


I have a horrible feeling about this game. Toonies selection policy hasn't improved. Fiji have the motivation that they're not far behind us in rankings anymore and will go for it I think.

21-28 I reckon.

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Post by bsando Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:18 pm

Yeah I am also a bit nervous. I think Fiji have more continuity to them these days. Plus a solid game plan. Still expect Scotland to win and as RDW say Scotland have plenty of experience in the XXIII to get the job done.

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Post by jimbopip Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:06 pm

There's been no official word on Ragnar so it would appear he's starting. A disappointment for Finn Richardson but a mighty relief for the rest of us.

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Post by bsando Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:14 pm

Richardson is some unit!

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Post by bsando Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:30 pm

Tom Jordan has been a revelation. Playing at fullback! Scotlands own Beauden Barrett.

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Post by jimbopip Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:40 pm

Some lovely rugby there.
So looking forward to my trip up next week.

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Post by TJ Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:52 pm

Bit of a mixed bag of a game - if we ignore the middle 3rd it was great

the Wee Man is back - just brilliant. Tuipiloto seems to get better every game, some nice stuff from Hastings and no real errors something I have critised him for before. Jordan looked quite at home on an international pitch

Can't argue with the final score

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Post by RDW Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:04 pm

RDW wrote:Without meaning to jinx it, this should be a comfortable Scotland win. That's an experienced international team we've put out.

Can see it being high scoring - 42-26 Scotland or something like that.

Not a million miles away...!

Looking forward to watching this one.

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Post by RDW Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:22 pm

Well a good opening 20 and last 20 with a very meh 40 minutes in the middle. I'm not sure if we really learnt much for the SA game other than we'll have to play a lot better than that, particularly in terms of discipline. Attacking wise we were sensational though.

Fair play to Adam Hastings, who did everything Finn does with very little of the not so good stuff Finn does. Some incredible pieces of skill.

Good impact from Jordan off the bench too.

Job done with much harder things to come!

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Post by bsando Sun Nov 03, 2024 7:23 am

A fully fit and loaded Fiji side will cause other teams more problems this autumn. They showed in the middle of the match how simple but effective their game plan can be. Just by going through the hands without making absurd offloads every phase they managed to push a strong Scottish defence right back into their 22. As Toonie said, Scotland’s fitness was superior in the final quarter.

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Post by Old Man Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:26 am

Great game for Scotland, however very dissappointing from Fiji

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Post by BigGee Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:36 am

Old Man wrote:Great game for Scotland, however very dissappointing from Fiji

A very inexperienced Fiji side playing near full strength Scotland

We probably should not read to much into the result either way. Hopefully a useful hit out for us before playing you guys next weekend

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Post by Old Man Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:51 am

BigGee wrote:
Old Man wrote:Great game for Scotland, however very dissappointing from Fiji

A very inexperienced Fiji side playing near full strength Scotland

We probably should not read to much into the result either way. Hopefully a useful hit out for us before playing you guys next weekend

Looking forward to it, regardless of the opposition yesterday, Scotland looked good, playing at tremendous pace onto the ball

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Post by RDW Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:25 pm

Thoughts turn to SA, where the concern (as always) is power and the pack. Our lineout actually functioned really well against Fiji but we had a pretty lightweight pack and 2 lineout locks. Do we do the same against the Boks?

And what about the bench, where we need to bring our own bomb squad but don't exactly have that. Id be tempted to stick to a more traditional 5-3 split because our forwards are very fit, and again we're not exactly overflowing with options. Do we bring Crosbie in for extra physicality?

Big selection call is who is back up to Russell. Hastings couldn't have done much more but Jordan is exactly the type of player that will front up to the Boks.

In terms of 23 then, the starting 15 should be pretty easy to pick, the bench not so much. So I'm not gonna attempt it!

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Post by bsando Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:44 pm



Schoe, Richardson, Fagerson
Cummings, Gilchrist
Fagerson, Darge
Dempsey
White, Russell
Huwipulotu
VDM, Graham
Kinghorn

Ashman, Sutherland, Millar-Mills, Williamson, Bayliss, Ritchie, Horne, Hastings

That would be my guess.

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Post by BigGee Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:51 am

It would probably make more sense to have Dobie and Jordan on the bench if we are going 6:2 in that they cover more positions.

Graham has got to be a doubt as well, having failed a HIA. Maybe Jordan will start at FB if that is the case and Kinghorn will play on the wing.

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Post by bsando Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:10 am

I had the impression that Graham would be okay if he passes his next HIA. Did anyone see the collision?

For Scotlsnd it’s a chance to make up for the World Cup no show. With Glasgow now URC winners, their backs are flying high and look noticeably better than they did for Scotland at the World Cup last year. If Toonie goes for a 5:3 split I think that opens the door for Jordan. Perhaps Toonie feels bullish and thinks Jordan has what it takes to start at fullback, I think most would be happy to see that happen (myself included). Kinghorn has been on the wing for Toulouse quite often this season as Ramos is back to full health and in good form.

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Post by BigGee Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:21 am

I am pretty sure we will go 6:2 for this one, they certainly will and we will need to stay with them up front.

1. Schoeman
2. Richardson
3. Fagerson Z
4. Cummings
5. Gilchrist
6. Fagerson M
7. Darge
8. Dempsey
9. White
10. Russell
11. Graham (Kinghorn if not fit)
12. Tuipolotu
13. Jones
14. DVDM
15. Kinghorn (Jordan)

Subs
Sutherland
Ashman
Rae
Williamson
Craig
Brown
Dobie
Jordan (Hastings if Jordan starts)

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Post by EWT Spoons Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:07 am

Any word on if Ashman has been cited on the back of his head collision?   Didn't look great, so wouldn't be shocked if he gets a ban.

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Post by Tramptastic Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:36 am

How broken is Rowe? If he was taken off as a precaution then he should get a spot on the wing (if Graham fails HIA) and Blairhorn to fullback.

Was really impressed by Rowe before he went off, not quite the hot stepper that Graham is but he seems to glide fairly effortlessly across the pitch and is solid under the high ball.

One thing that stood out to me about Duhan - competition under the high ball from box kicks - he didnt seem to win a single one but is his job just to make a mess/disrupt? depending what his target was he either had an ok game on the kick chase or he was sh1te

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Post by jimbopip Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:57 am

I think selection for Saturday will start with the medical updates. If ADHD and Mullet Boy are hors de combat then that will put a lot of pressure on our back three. My choice would be ADHD-Blarehorn-Mullet. I think Duhan had a quiet game intil the last third when the Fijians were a tired, beaten side. However, we could end up with Duhan-Blarehorn-Reed. which might not go as well as one would hope.

One player who played himself out of contention has to be Aldi Price. Did the House Elf do enough to get a place in the 23? If Toonie goes 6/2 then he may well be there to cover 9 and wing.
Ashman may well drop to the bench. Richardson is probably more in tune with the Boks style of playing. Ashman was very lucky not to be red carded. However, we don't really have a viable third option so Ashman will most likely be in the 23.

Ragnar was massive again, so let's pray he's available on Sunday. If he is he may well clock up 70+ minutes such is the drop in gnarliness when he gets replaced.

Jordan presents a conundrum. Toonie will want to go 6/2. But Jordan on the bench covers 10/12/13/15. Will Toonie put House Elf & Jordan as the only backs subs?

A final thought; considering recent club results, I would put as many Glasgow players in as possible. They know how to win against South African teams. There will be no-one in green who will be frightening them.

1. Schooey Wonbat
2. Richardson Ashman
3. Ragnar A N Other
4. Cummings GG
5. Williamson Brown, covers 4/6 may allow a 5/3 split
6.Matt F
7. Darge
8. Dempsey
9. Hornito House Elf
10. Dancer Haircut
11. Mulet
12 Wee Shona
13. Shug
14. ADHD Kid
15 Blarehorn Jordan

Discuss.

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Post by Tramptastic Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:58 am

I'd switch your 5:3 for a 6:2 on the bench Jimbo. House Elf and Jordan - I still have nightmares of the last time Haircut played against the boks and Scotland, in attack, got marched back about 50 yards at one point due to Haircuts poor impression of a rugby player - keep him away from this match and put faith in the physicality and no-nonsense approach of Jordan.

House Elf is a better sub than Price

stack the forwards replacements as Sutherland, Ashman, a tighthead, Williamson, Brown, Muncaster.

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Post by Hazel Sapling Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:17 am

I thought there was a ban for trying to start players out of position for the first time in internationals? Where has Jordan at 15 to start come from? He played well for 20-30 minutes against a tiring Fiji B side. Lets not get ahead of ourselves and try to shoehorn him in. Even Huw Jones has way more experience at 15.

An alternative, other than Reed who starts for a good Sale side and is a speed merchant who can tackle, would be to play H Jones at wing and put Stafford at 13 defensively where he was fantastic for Glasgow all of last season.

Personally, I would give Reed the call than shoehorn Jordan in.

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Post by BigGee Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:27 am

Not so sure about that Hazel

Reed does not have any more real international experience than Jordan, who at least has played in some big games and more regularly against South African opposition.

Both would be gambles, but in my opinion the Jordan one less so.

Yes Shuggy has played FB as well, but it would be a real shame to break up the Huwipolotu combo which seems to work so well.

The best combo clearly is a Duhy/Blairhorn/Darcy trio, so let's keep fingers crossed he passes his HIA

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Post by EWT Spoons Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:41 am

Hastings has some experience at FB and has more international experience than Jordon and Reed.

If anyone is ruled out, then it might make sense to put Hastings back there, obviously fingers crossed Darcy &/or Rowe is fit as anything else is shoehorning someone in

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Post by jimbopip Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:54 am

EWT Spoons wrote:Hastings has some experience at FB and has more international experience than Jordon and Reed.

If anyone is ruled out, then it might make sense to put Hastings back there, obviously fingers crossed Darcy &/or Rowe is fit as anything else is shoehorning someone in

I'm beginning to agree with the General's belief that there's no such thing as "a natural12" or "a born winger", rather there are good rugby players. I always saw Seaman as an out and out 13 and wasted on the wing, but he is a very, very good winger. Similarly Shug, Wee Shona, Jordan, Stafford and Dobie all play in at least one position for the Champeeonz.
If everyone is fit then it's ADHD-Blarehorn-Mullet for me. Duhan is hit and miss. He'll either run in a worldie or just keep running into the nearest defender. On present form I suggest the latter is more likely against the Boks.

If we only have two backs on the bench chin
The House Elf covers wing, if Hornito starts then he and Dobie can interchange and keep the defence guessing.
Haircut can cover 15 as well as 10.
Jordan, it appears can play anywhere.

Take your pick.

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Post by BigGee Mon Nov 04, 2024 1:59 pm

Hoggy pleads guilty to domestic abuse, what an ###hole, it sounds horrific and you just got to feel fir his wife.

Safe to say his Scotland career is over, you wonder if Montpellier will stay with him.

They may have no choice if he goes to jail, which is possible. Sentencing has been deferred for reports to be compiled.

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Post by Tramptastic Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:26 pm

That's him ruined a few lives. What a horrible @rsehole.

Montpellier like to hire horrible people so i presume his french career will be ok.

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Post by bsando Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:42 pm

Awful to read how nasty he was to his ex wife. Clearly a bad drunk too by the sound of it. I wonder how much the SRU knew? Only last year Hogg was close to being a part of the World Cup squad. Will they come out with a statement? Or will it be radio silence? Glasgow did the right thing by issuing a statement after McLean was found guilty. Hogg was arguably the greatest player for Scotland in the professional era. For the SRU to say nothing would be wrong in my opinion.

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Post by BigGee Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:48 pm

Not sure the SRU need to be involved in this.

Legally he is no longer an employee unless, God forbid, they decide to pick him again.

He will be trailed in the court of public opinion and God luck to him with that.

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Post by jimbopip Mon Nov 04, 2024 6:21 pm

So Ragnar is now a father! Twins. If he chooses to take a fortnight's paternity leave we should all support him in that. However if he chooses to rock up for training on Friday morning that's fine with me.

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Post by RDW Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:19 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yrgvnxde4o

What a prick. Words can't describe! His poor ex wife and kids (who would have witnessed a lot of this I'm sure)

This makes all his smug, self affirmation social media posts all the worse. Yes "everyone has an opinion, only I know the real me" and our opinion is you're a c***

Montpellier really should rip up his contract but knowing them I can't imagine they will!

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Post by RDW Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:19 pm

In more positive news, it's good to see Zander doing his bit for the future of Scottish rugby in 20 years time!

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Post by bsando Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:03 pm

Real mixed news day wasn’t it!

Great news for the Fagerson family.

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Post by Highland Shaun Yesterday at 12:10 am

I don't know if anyone noticed or maybe I'm reading to much into this but when Darcy was announced as POM and the camera cut to him, he was talking to Finn so I don't think that looked like someone that had failed an HIA to the extent he will be out for Sunday 🤔. Kyle Rowe is another story though, it would be so hard on him to miss out again but do remember Dobie is a Wing option and, be assured GT will be seriously considering this 😛.

I'd also say that Ashman should really be dropped because I thought (maybe harshly lol) that he had a very poor game, he also got a silly needless yellow and very lucky not to get another!! I'd be inclined to have Richardson or Harrison starting and the other on the bench!

I also echo what has been said above, TJ certainly didn't do his chances any harm (that try saving tackle clapclapclap) so I'd certainly have him in contention for the match day squad 😃.

I take it he has been as impressive at Glasgow, I'll soon get more URC action as my dad's firestick account has expired and tbh I can't be arsed renewing it lol?

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Post by RDW Yesterday at 7:32 am

These HIAs are pretty rigorous with a set protocol during and after then event and the days to follow. I don't think much can be read it I him sitting up and chatting, doing post match interviews etc other than thankfully it appears to be a reliable minor knock thankfully. That could still rule him out though.

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Post by EWT Spoons Yesterday at 8:37 am

RDW wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yrgvnxde4o

What a prick. Words can't describe! His poor ex wife and kids (who would have witnessed a lot of this I'm sure)

This makes all his smug, self affirmation social media posts all the worse. Yes "everyone has an opinion, only I know the real me" and our opinion is you're a c***

Montpellier really should rip up his contract but knowing them I can't imagine they will!

His current Mrs is all over social media defending him, essentially saying 5/6 charges were dismissed, so it's not that bad (I'm paraphrasing)

Which is a very odd take given he plead guilty to 1 charge. 1 charge of domestic abuse is 1 charge too many, so it's an odd hill to die on.

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Post by RDW Yesterday at 8:56 am

EWT Spoons wrote:
RDW wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yrgvnxde4o

What a prick. Words can't describe! His poor ex wife and kids (who would have witnessed a lot of this I'm sure)

This makes all his smug, self affirmation social media posts all the worse. Yes "everyone has an opinion, only I know the real me" and our opinion is you're a c***

Montpellier really should rip up his contract but knowing them I can't imagine they will!

His current Mrs is all over social media defending him, essentially saying 5/6 charges were dismissed, so it's not that bad (I'm paraphrasing)

Which is a very odd take given he plead guilty to 1 charge. 1 charge of domestic abuse is 1 charge too many, so it's an odd hill to die on.

Sounds like they're made for each other!

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Post by Tramptastic Yesterday at 10:11 am

EWT Spoons wrote:
RDW wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yrgvnxde4o

What a prick. Words can't describe! His poor ex wife and kids (who would have witnessed a lot of this I'm sure)

This makes all his smug, self affirmation social media posts all the worse. Yes "everyone has an opinion, only I know the real me" and our opinion is you're a c***

Montpellier really should rip up his contract but knowing them I can't imagine they will!

His current Mrs is all over social media defending him, essentially saying 5/6 charges were dismissed, so it's not that bad (I'm paraphrasing)

Which is a very odd take given he plead guilty to 1 charge. 1 charge of domestic abuse is 1 charge too many, so it's an odd hill to die on.

Give it a few years and then it'll become another "Leopards Ate My Face" moment. I don't know what the success rate is on rehabilitating a domestic abuser but i doubt he's going to change his nature any time soon.

If it had been a moment for reflection and lessons learned, he'd of chatted through it with his new partner and she'd be singing from the same hymn sheet, "I've made some horrible mistakes, abused my ex wife, im sorry and i want to change" etc.

The fact is the new partner is deflecting, obfuscating and dancing around the judgement. On this basis the Convict is unlikely to have a different opinion.

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Post by BigGee Yesterday at 10:18 am

I am not entirely convinced that it benefits anyone really him bring sent to jail for this however he does need to be very careful here and should certainly be telling her to keep it down.

He has probably pleaded guilty following legal advice that he does not much of a case and the consequences to him could be much worse if he drags his wife through a trisl as well.

A modicum of contrition will surely be required now from him to avoid the more draconian sanctions he may face.

I have no sympathy for him whatsoever but she certainly is not helping him either.

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Post by EWT Spoons Yesterday at 3:25 pm

If it's been mentioned here and I missed it, sorry for the repetition, but I hadn't realised Rowe went off due to a hamstring tweak rather then due to the hit he took.

Hopefully it was precautionary rather than anything more.

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Post by Tramptastic Yesterday at 3:28 pm

EWT Spoons wrote:If it's been mentioned here and I missed it, sorry for the repetition, but I hadn't realised Rowe went off due to a hamstring tweak rather then due to the hit he took.

Hopefully it was precautionary rather than anything more.

on the match thread, my usual source says both Rowe and Graham are crocked for the weekend.

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