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Post by Liam_Main Wed 15 Jun 2011, 8:03 am

First topic message reminder :

As i'm going on holiday tonight I decided to do the 3rd test debate thread a little bit sooner.

Anyways the squads:

England

Andrew Strauss (C)
Alistair Cook
Jonathan Trott
Kevin Pietersen
Ian Bell
Eoin Morgan
Matt Prior (WK)
Stuart Broad
Graeme Swann
Chris Tremlett
James Anderson
Steve Finn

Sri Lanka

Tharanga Paranavithana
Lahiru Thirimanne
Kumar Sangakkara (C)
Mahela Jayawardene
Thilan Samaraweera
Dinesh Chandimal
Prasanna Jaywardene (W-K)
Thissara Perera
Suraj Randiv
Ajantha Mendis
Rangana Herath
Dilhara Fernanado
Chanka Welegedara
Suranga Lakmal
Farveez Maharoof

C'mon England! OK
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Post by Cowshot Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:41 am

Urgh. Argh. Wurrr.

Dragged the hangover out of bed and heard the confirmation they are trying to bowl Broad into form.

I was agreeing with Geoffrey. Things must be bad.

Morning alfie & msp Smile

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Post by alfie Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:43 am

Hi trebell

Yeah batting won't be that easy perhaps , though pitch is getting better for batting , I fancy.

Really want 270 today to get this game moving .Hopefully with wickets in hand .

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Post by alfie Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:45 am

And hi Cowshot

Everyone seems to have slept in Smile

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Post by Cowshot Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:46 am

Strauss could do with some runs here. Beaten by one over the top of the stumps doesn't sound good.

Morning Trebell. Smile

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Post by eirebilly Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:48 am

Morning all, also slept in here this morning Very Happy
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Post by Cowshot Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:50 am

Morning eire. Smile

We've got sunshine here in SW London! Is it looking sunny at the Rose Bowl?

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Post by Cowshot Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:53 am

Oh lordy. Strauss gone edging Welegedera. Now we've got left arm blues.

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Post by alfie Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:54 am

Morning Billy..

Sunshine for now Cowshot but forecast more rain later Crying or Very sad

Rats ! Strauss gone ...

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Post by eirebilly Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:55 am

Morning Cowshot, its not looking great here. Strauss'poor form continues Sad
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Post by eirebilly Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:56 am

Morning alfie Very Happy
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Post by eirebilly Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:59 am

Strauss' form is a real concern right now, he is doing a good job as captain but he is failing big time with the bat.
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Post by dyrewolfe Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:59 am

Morning all. Missed 2 wickets already I see. Neither that surprising either.

Just as well Strauss is doing a good job as captain, as his batting hasn't been up to much lately. Rolling Eyes
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Post by eirebilly Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:03 pm

He really is in bad form dyre, i hope he gets it back soon.
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Post by Cowshot Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:06 pm

Gorgeous weather here. Bright crisp and clean. Cook and Trott at the wicket and sounding comfortable. All is well with the world. Very Happy

Morning dyrewolf. Smile

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Post by eirebilly Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:06 pm

I honestly think that Sri Lanka will be very happy with a score of 184 considering the cfonditions and the start they had. Its not a great score but its something for their bowlers to defend.
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Post by alfie Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:07 pm

I wouldn't panic over Strauss having a few outs

Happened to Cook last year and he bounced back pretty well Very Happy

If he doesn't get going in the first couple of India Tests I'll start to get worried


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Post by Cowshot Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:11 pm

From 30 for 4 and 70 for 7 or something, 184 all out is a good result. No guarantees we'll match it.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:12 pm

Welegedara and Lakmal have bowled well so far, these are really trying conditions for batsmen.
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Post by msp83 Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:12 pm

Hi there Cowshot and others.
Just had to go away for some time, and in the meanwhile Petulance got a wicket to finish Lanka's first innings, and England has already lost Strauss to Welegedara.

Arre there going to be theories of Strauss and his problems with Left-arm pace?? Anyways he seems to be out of touch, and it should be a concern for him that Zaheer's just getting ready, resting, refreshed!.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:14 pm

I think that Sri Lanka were over 110 before they lost their 7th wicket cowshot but it was some fight back. The last 5 put on more runs than their top 5, i would never have imagined that.
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Post by alfie Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:16 pm

Was a decent recovery , Cowshot , but I'll be shocked if England don't get a good lead.

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Post by Cowshot Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:17 pm

At the risk of jinxing, Cook sounds as if he's playing beautifully.

chuckle. Couldn't recall the exact figures, but it was a good fight back - aided by Strauss bowling Broad so much.

Argh. Trott gone.

You sure about getting a lead, alfie?

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Post by alfie Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:18 pm

Trott gone ! Poor shot to a ball angled across ...

Now a test for KP

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Post by dyrewolfe Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:19 pm

Argh!

Trott gone for 4 and England now 14-2. Shocked

What can Cook and KP (another who's suspect against left armers) do now?
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Post by alfie Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:19 pm

Yes Cowshot . Still backing an England lead . We bat deep these days.

Might have to though this time Smile

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Post by eirebilly Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:20 pm

This is huge for KP now, i really feel as if he must score here today. Not great conditions for him though.
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Post by ShankyCricket Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:23 pm

Time for KP to come to the party

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Post by Cowshot Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:24 pm

Come on Cookie.

Yeah alfie, if I had to bet I'd say we'd get a lead. But we do seem to be doing our best to help Sri Lanka.

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Post by ShankyCricket Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:26 pm

eirebilly

mate what are the conditions like?

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Post by eirebilly Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:26 pm

Maybe i will eat my words about Broad if he is called to perform with the bat and he does well.......

Cook really does time the ball well doesnt he.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:26 pm

So.. Strauss then.

Suddenly hit a bad rum of form.

what to do? rest him? let him play himself back in?

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Post by eirebilly Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:26 pm

Sunny at the moment shanky but rain is expected.
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Post by Cowshot Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:32 pm

Morning msp. Smile

re the Strauss dismissal: It's all a cunning plan to fool the Indians. Honest. Whistle

Have to say, I don't think your boys will be losing any sleep watching England's performances so far.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:33 pm

THese conditions ate hurting us more than they did SL.. well i'm eating my words as I was sure we'd cope better.

SL are rubbish in these conditions but seemingly so are we.

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Post by Cowshot Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:36 pm

Come on KP.

Lakmal has a no-ball problem?

Sounds tough out there. Just underscores how well Cook is playing at the moment.

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Post by legendkillar Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:37 pm

Saw the Trott wicket. Pietersen nearly in all sorts of trouble. Cook looking in nice touch yet again.

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Post by Cowshot Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:38 pm

...oops. I mean Fernando. I think.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:39 pm

I would really like to see these 2 get a nice partnership
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Post by legendkillar Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:40 pm

The weather has been nothing short of a pain in the backside during this series. Grrrrrrrr

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Post by Cowshot Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:41 pm

chuckle. The pedant in me wishes to point out that very little KP does could be described as "small, neat and delicate."

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Post by legendkillar Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:41 pm

I would too. I would feel relaxed if I knew I had someone in the rich vein of form that Cook is in at the other end of the wicket. I am hoping for a big partnership.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:53 pm

These two settling things down well here now.
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Post by dyrewolfe Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:54 pm

KP being circumspect and pickng his shots nicely (looking a proper Test batsman) and Cook quietly authoritative.

Slow and steady accumulation after the opening wobble, though the SL bowlers are still causing the odd problem. IF the rain holds off this could be an interesting contest.
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Post by ShankyCricket Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:55 pm

KP looking in ominous form so far.Is this the innings that marks the revival of KP?Too early to tell but a ton here would certainly boost his confidence coz conditions are not too hospitable for the batsmen

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Post by msp83 Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:56 pm

Cowshot,
The Only real worry India may have about this England performance is Chris Tremlett's bowling form. of course Cook and Trott are batting well, and KP is trying to find form. But Tremlett is someone different, he did trouble the Indian batting lineup last time around, his atributes as a fast bowler are sickening if you are in the opposition!.

But coming back to Strauss, I think its a bit of a concern. he is someone who always bats well against India. Zaheer had made Graeme Smith his bunny in SA, and if Strauss's troubles continue, that will be a bother for England.

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Post by msp83 Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:58 pm

Cowshot,
The Only real worry India may have about this England performance is Chris Tremlett's bowling form. of course Cook and Trott are batting well, and KP is trying to find form. But Tremlett is someone different, he did trouble the Indian batting lineup last time around, his atributes as a fast bowler are sickening if you are in the opposition!.

But coming back to Strauss, I think its a bit of a concern. he is someone who always bats well against India. Zaheer had made Graeme Smith his bunny in SA, and if Strauss's troubles continue, that will be a bother for England.

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Post by dyrewolfe Sat 18 Jun 2011, 1:01 pm

50 up for England. Too soon to feel entirely comfortable but its looking good from Cook and KP so far. Very Happy
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Post by ShankyCricket Sat 18 Jun 2011, 1:02 pm

I think Strauss would be lucky to average in double figures against India if his poor form continues.Zaheer is by far the best left arm seamer on the planet.And Straussy looks utterly clueless against them at the moment.

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Post by Cowshot Sat 18 Jun 2011, 1:06 pm

msp: Interesting. I'd have said the bowler they ought to be worried about in English conditions is Anderson.

But apart from one evening spell of about 35 overs, England haven't really been firing on all cylinders.

chuckle. Thinking about the game today, who would have thought that KP would come in, play so responsibly and steady the ship?

And that Kumquat Farage has no place on TMS. mad

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Post by msp83 Sat 18 Jun 2011, 1:12 pm

Cowshot

The Indians are relatively more comfortable playing swing rather than bounce at sharp pace. Anderson has got wickets against India in England in the past, but I am sure given a choice between an in form Tremlett and Anderson, the Indians will go for Anderson.

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