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Post by Rugby Fan Sun 17 Nov 2024, 2:05 pm

Just tuned in with three minutes gone. Not a big crowd, and Dallaglio in commentary, so I hope the quality of the rugby can compensate.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sun 17 Nov 2024, 2:07 pm

Wonder what the odds were on Joe Heyes scoring the first try of the day?

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 17 Nov 2024, 2:10 pm

Decent start from England.

Bit disappointed by the crowd, feels like an opportunity missed to take the game away from the rugby heartlands to places that wouldn't normally see international rugby.
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Post by Cumbrian Sun 17 Nov 2024, 2:14 pm

Altkinson not started well, missed an early conversion and then missed touch.
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Post by doctor_grey Sun 17 Nov 2024, 2:19 pm

Well, it took less than 20 minutes for Pollock to get into it with someone.

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Post by mountain man Sun 17 Nov 2024, 2:29 pm

Is it on TV? If so what channel please. Hopefully not Sky as nit got that

Currently watching Georgia Italy but will watch EngtA if possible.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sun 17 Nov 2024, 2:31 pm

So, we have no lineout.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sun 17 Nov 2024, 2:33 pm

mountain man wrote:Is it on TV? If so what channel please.

Premier Sports in England

https://www.quins.co.uk/article/premier-sports-to-broadcast-england-a-v-australia-a-at-the-stoop

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Post by doctor_grey Sun 17 Nov 2024, 2:43 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:
mountain man wrote:Is it on TV? If so what channel please.

Premier Sports in England

https://www.quins.co.uk/article/premier-sports-to-broadcast-england-a-v-australia-a-at-the-stoop
Also RugbyPass
https://rugbypass.tv/live/275046

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Post by Rugby Fan Sun 17 Nov 2024, 2:43 pm

England 'A' 5-10 Australia 'A' at half time

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Post by mountain man Sun 17 Nov 2024, 2:52 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:
mountain man wrote:Is it on TV? If so what channel please.

Premier Sports in England

https://www.quins.co.uk/article/premier-sports-to-broadcast-england-a-v-australia-a-at-the-stoop
Also RugbyPass
https://rugbypass.tv/live/275046

Hmm couldn't see it on Rugby Pass? Only showing Sevens for later today live?

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 17 Nov 2024, 2:55 pm

England pretty inaccurate, but feels like if they 'click' there could be tries for them.

Given how dynamic the forwards are, it has been somewhat surprising/disappointing that they haven't been able to make more hard yards.

Think Atkinson has been a bit of a weak link at fly half, has looked hurried and inaccurate.
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Post by doctor_grey Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:06 pm

mountain man wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:
mountain man wrote:Is it on TV? If so what channel please.

Premier Sports in England

https://www.quins.co.uk/article/premier-sports-to-broadcast-england-a-v-australia-a-at-the-stoop
Also RugbyPass
https://rugbypass.tv/live/275046

Hmm couldn't see it on Rugby Pass? Only showing Sevens for later today live?
Maybe it is geographically restricted? I didn't think it is supposed to be. That's how I'm watching it. Hopefully you can get on Premier Sports? Or, if you have a VPN set to America and use RugbyPass. It's no cost.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:07 pm

Cumbrian wrote:England pretty inaccurate, but feels like if they 'click' there could be tries for them.

Given how dynamic the forwards are, it has been somewhat surprising/disappointing that they haven't been able to make more hard yards.

Think Atkinson has been a bit of a weak link at fly half, has looked hurried and inaccurate.

I have no idea why Atkinson is in there and Orlando Bailey isn't.

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Post by Poorfour Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:11 pm

Australia winning the back row battle so far, and England look a bit underpowered in the forwards when carrying.

Atkinson hasn’t kicked his goals and looks a bit flat in attack, but the rest of the backline is keeping England in it.

Porter has shown the kind of form I was hoping for and has looked better than his counterparts in the senior squad so far.
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Post by Cumbrian Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:15 pm

Brilliant try from England in broken play.

If Atkinson had kicked his goals there would be daylight between them now.
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Post by Rugby Fan Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:17 pm

England go ahead with a bit of a slapstick try following an Ibitoye break. It has woken up the crowd.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:21 pm

Tom Pearson off for Fisilau after 60 minutes.

Pearson had a lot of fans a while ago but he seemed to go quiet. Didn't really notive him much today.

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Post by Poorfour Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:22 pm

“Slapstick”?

Not sure what you mean. It was a bit scrappy but England did well to resource the breakdown and it was smart play by Porter to keep the ball alive until he had someone to pass to.

Scrum replacements having an immediate impact. Pollock being a bit greedy but Fisilau’s reactions make a 4th try and England are looking much more comfortable.
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Post by Cumbrian Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:22 pm

Hopefully that kills off Australia A.

You have to say that Pollock looks like he is going to be an absolute star. He plays like both a back and a forward. So much speed and power for a man of his size.
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Post by Rugby Fan Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:23 pm

Fisilau has scored within seconds. It might have been his first touch. Atkinson converted

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:27 pm

Pfft, good read from Muir, but it couldn't have fallen any better for him.
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Post by Poorfour Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:29 pm

Cumbrian wrote:Pfft, good read from Muir, but it couldn't have fallen any better for him.

He read it from a long way out, though. It’s a big call to commit that early, but he made it stick.
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Post by Rugby Fan Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:29 pm

Poorfour wrote:“Slapstick”?

That's not meant to be pejorative. It's more the way Ibitoye looked like he had an easy link-up for a try, then we almost knocked-on, had a player perform a pirouette, and ended up scoring further out.

And now Will Muir has scored an intercept try from one of the longest run-ups you are likely to see.

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:30 pm

Can England seriously not control the restart at any level? It is ridiculous.
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Post by Poorfour Sun 17 Nov 2024, 3:35 pm

Porter’s work today is done. Strong contender for POTM, I’d say.
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Post by Geordie Sun 17 Nov 2024, 4:42 pm

Haven't seen the game...who gets promoted for Japan?

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Post by doctor_grey Sun 17 Nov 2024, 5:28 pm

Henry Pollock was MOTM and well deserved.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 17 Nov 2024, 6:15 pm

doctor_grey wrote:Henry Pollock was MOTM and well deserved.  

The kid is box office. Needs to have his game time carefully managed as he's only 19 but a real x factor player. Tough call coming for next summer as to whether he goes on the summer tour to make his England debut or whether he goes with the under 20s to see if he can help them do the double.

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Post by Geordie Sun 17 Nov 2024, 6:25 pm

If he's tha good...summer tour.

There'll be some competition as Pepper will be about as well.

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Post by Cumbrian Sun 17 Nov 2024, 7:19 pm

Pollock and Porter were good. Arthur Clarke looked decent in the second row. Props were competitive without being completely dominant.

Line-out was really disappointing in the first half, so Oghre probably didn't enhance his position in the pecking order.

There were decent touches from the centres, without being jaw dropping (although Beard threw an offload that would have had the commentator orgasming if he was a Aussie Loig player).

I'd have liked to see how the backline would have gone if Fin Smith had been at 10.
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Post by Geordie Sun 17 Nov 2024, 8:03 pm

Beard is a good player.

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