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Post by wales606 Tue 21 Jun 2011, 7:22 pm

Following on from the speculation about Dai Young moving to Wasp, it would appear that in contrast to the WM, the DM have come out supporting the rumour and suggesting that it will be announced on Thursday.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2006409/London-Wasps-unveil-Dai-Young-director-rugby.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

However, its the last paragraph thats new...

"Wales attack coach Rob Howley is among the early favourites to take over the Blues after the World Cup."

What do people think?
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Post by Shifty Tue 21 Jun 2011, 7:26 pm

Good choice, Robert Howley could benefit from coaching the Blues, though I think the Blues should go for Mike Rayer of Bedford.
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Post by wales606 Tue 21 Jun 2011, 7:27 pm

Well, Burnell and Phil Davies are other possible candidates, as well as the Ponty duo.
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Post by maestegmafia Tue 21 Jun 2011, 7:40 pm

That is a surprise.

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Post by Cymroglan Tue 21 Jun 2011, 7:44 pm

Good news for Wales a change of personnel will be beneficial in bringing in new ideas if we get the right person for the job.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Tue 21 Jun 2011, 8:14 pm

Is Howley ready for the top job? I have always said it was to early for Young when he was brought in.

Even as a Gwent boy would still ove to see Kingsley back in Wales.

Would the Blues maybe go for a bigger name or established coach as director then bring in the likes of Howley/Rayer etc to work underneath them.
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Post by Guest Tue 21 Jun 2011, 8:31 pm

I don't think Howley would do a good job personally, I've not been impressed with him in the Welsh set up at all. Reckon Kingsley would be a much better choice.

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Post by Shifty Tue 21 Jun 2011, 8:31 pm

bedfordwelsh wrote:Is Howley ready for the top job? I have always said it was to early for Young when he was brought in.

Even as a Gwent boy would still ove to see Kingsley back in Wales.

Would the Blues maybe go for a bigger name or established coach as director then bring in the likes of Howley/Rayer etc to work underneath them.

Rayer left the Blues coaching set up in 2005 to become head coach at Bedford that was 6 years ago, he's ready to come home now. Often Bedford finish in the Top 4 places (2nd last year) in the second division and that's without the budgets that other clubs in the division have. While the vast majority of their players are English so it's not as if he has the advantages clubs like Worcester, Bristol, Cornish Pirates or London Welsh have in terms of finances.
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Post by XR Wed 22 Jun 2011, 9:00 am

People forget that Howley was blues attack/skills coach for a few years and was responsible for turning our backline into a pretty mean weapon. Which laid the foundations for when Bill Millard was with us.

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Post by Bombardier Wed 22 Jun 2011, 9:17 am

I think that MR would be the better choice however I still doubt dai will be at wasps. There seems to have been a great deal of swivelling on his part as to his position on the issue.

wow that last sentence could be misconstrued laughing

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Post by Adam D Wed 22 Jun 2011, 9:18 am

Well both ESPN and BBC 5Live have tweeted today that the deal is being signed today and announced within 2 days.

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Post by XR Wed 22 Jun 2011, 9:45 am

Blimey. I do not want Burnell as head coach, what a dreadful decision.

If Peter Thomas & Co don't bring in a decent replacement and just promote him...then we're doomed. He's totally out of his depth at this level and he only coaches the forwards - who have been so dire this season even though they are the same pack that we won the Amlin with.

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Post by Adam D Wed 22 Jun 2011, 9:51 am

http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2010-11/rugby/story/142036.html?utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rugbyrightnow%2Fespnscrum+%28ESPN+Scrum+Rugby%29;utm_content=Twitter;utm_medium=twitter;utm_source=feedburner

ESPN are reporting it, as well as tweeting!

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Post by Bombardier Wed 22 Jun 2011, 9:56 am

well, finally some direct answers! thanks

just hoping that he doesn't have a slow start as he did for cardiff the prem needs competition and would suffer if wasps deteriorate more

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Post by Coleman Wed 22 Jun 2011, 11:28 am

It would seem that the Blues dont think Dai is going any where.

http://www.cardiffblues.com/news/5194.php

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed 22 Jun 2011, 11:44 am

Bombardier wrote:I think that MR would be the better choice however I still doubt dai will be at wasps. There seems to have been a great deal of swivelling on his part as to his position on the issue.

wow that last sentence could be misconstrued laughing

Especially if 'issue' is a euphemism!

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Post by Adam D Wed 22 Jun 2011, 4:35 pm

a RT from the Cardiff Blues supporters club:

CardiffBluesSC Cardiff Blues Rugby
RT @Twigster54 @606v2rugby the supporters would rather go and support the dragons than se
e Howley in charge. Do people not watch Wales?!!

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Post by Shifty Wed 22 Jun 2011, 4:37 pm

Coleman wrote:It would seem that the Blues dont think Dai is going any where.

http://www.cardiffblues.com/news/5194.php

wow short and sweet!
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Post by sosban11 Wed 22 Jun 2011, 7:34 pm

I think Cardiff could do with the money that is used to buy Young out of his contract. It's no secret that they're not made of money. I would like to see Tom Shanklin get the job.

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Post by manofgwent Wed 22 Jun 2011, 7:58 pm

I think they could well appoint howley as they won't have money to splash on an experienced coach. It's gonna be a tough old job. No money to spend, an ageing team and more NWQ than any other region. I think if young goes he's not left the blues in great shape. Also what experienced coach would rake on such a tough role with high expectations?
Would Paul turner turn to the dark side? I know he drinks in the Cardiff rugby club on international days!

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Post by glamorganalun Wed 22 Jun 2011, 11:11 pm

Great news for Wales, if Dai goes the sooner Howley goes to the Blues the better, he has done nothing for Wales attack. I suspect it could be a good move for Howley as I suspect the coaching team may be out of a job after the RWC.


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Post by Huwball Wed 22 Jun 2011, 11:23 pm

I think the problem for Wales is that he's not going before the world cup Wink

Wales have been pretty dire in attack since 2008 after which his single game plan was figured out by everyone! Doh

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Post by red_stag Wed 22 Jun 2011, 11:26 pm

Huw pretty sure it was figured out in 2008 as well. It was defense that really won them that.
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Post by Huwball Wed 22 Jun 2011, 11:39 pm

It's a shame it all didn't happen a few months ago and we could have tried to get a coach with vision in... somebody like Jiffy Shocked
He always seems to know everything about everything - wouldn't it be nice to see if if it was just B**locks he was talking all the time? Whistle

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 23 Jun 2011, 7:40 am

Huwball wrote:I think the problem for Wales is that he's not going before the world cup Wink

Agreed.

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Post by PackaPunch Thu 23 Jun 2011, 5:13 pm

Burnell has come through the ranks at the Blues, and started coaching at grass roots level. He's always been a Head Coach up until joining the Blues as Forwards Coach. Maybe he's not been 'allowed' to develop under Dai. He's not a bad bet - produced a load of the current players whist the Academy Manager and is big on development - what the Blues really need to be thinking about right now.

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