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Post by Scarpia Thu 27 Jan 2011, 2:40 pm

First topic message reminder :

Title says it all really. Will Cyril, Hersh, Maj etc infect the new 606?

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Post by Guest Tue 10 May 2011, 10:10 pm

tigerleghorn - nope none that I've seen, I think this place is safe Smile

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Post by The Phoenix Wed 18 May 2011, 3:12 pm

Hopefully Mikey Phil will never again grace an online rugby forum. However, I would like to see the return of BloeJoggs, he made me laugh in a 'he really is pathetic' sort of way!! Very Happy

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Post by emack2 Fri 20 May 2011, 12:27 am

I try to be objective and truthful in my posts,because of my age some think I live in the past.People who try to wind me up beware.Banter is fine,deliberatly bate me and I will retaliate in kind.

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Post by ospreylian Fri 20 May 2011, 1:05 pm

emack2 wrote:I try to be objective and truthful in my posts,because of my age some think I live in the past.People who try to wind me up beware.Banter is fine,deliberatly bate me and I will retaliate in kind.

emack2, stay calm and don't rise to the wums, if any come on here they will be dealt with, but I'm not aware of anyone having a go because of my age. Driving is a different matter altogether. But if it does bother you why not remove that part of your profile Wink

I'm fairly certain it is possible.

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Post by emack2 Fri 20 May 2011, 2:16 pm

The people who will try to wind me up.KNOW my name from the old 606 site.so changing my profile won`t help.there as those who on 606 only function was extracting the urine,when I gave as good as I got the threads were deleted by BBc.in truth the wum`s didn`t upset me I gave as good as i got.

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Post by Glas a du Wed 25 May 2011, 9:15 pm

I have a confession. On occasion on 606 I would wum. There was something about that site which encouraged it. Whereas here the setup discourages it. I think it's because of the internal moderation and administration. Time will tell. It's still relatively 'bijou' here.
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Post by Adam D Wed 25 May 2011, 9:17 pm

I am watching you Shocked

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Post by red_stag Thu 26 May 2011, 8:45 am

One of my favourite pasttimes on 606 was to send out false information and see who would snag.

I particularly remember the "Gavin Henson is moving to Munster" which ended up really taking root but other ones that used be enjoyable was to post Irelands extended training squad on on the day it was announced and make a big talking point. Rory Best as captain was one, O'Driscoll dropped was another. And after the 2009 HEC semi final defeat to Leinster I said that 5 or 6 key Munster players had all announced their retirment.

Sadly the "pub regs" have copped onto that and there doesn't appear to be that many stupid people on this forum Smile
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Post by Cari Thu 26 May 2011, 9:12 am

Staggy - you could still catch out some people. Depends how convincing the lie would be; and don't discuss it elsewhere on here, just write an article on it.

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Post by red_stag Thu 26 May 2011, 9:16 am

Also whats the difference with a WUM and Devils advocate? If I am asked for what team I think England should put out and I intentionally tout Joe Simpson for #9 in order to create a talking point is that a WUM or being Devils Advocate?
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Post by Guest Thu 26 May 2011, 9:23 am

that's more of a Devils Advocate for me Stag. A WUM for me is something that is deliberatly there to upset other posters, not just simply for debate. WUM's are usually a lot more insulting and personal too I find. Nothing wrong with a little bit of joking around, I think it can add to a forum, I mean we can't be serious all of the time!

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Post by Glas a du Thu 26 May 2011, 9:23 am

The difference is in your intentions. Devils advocates test the strength of a debater, wums just want to irritate for the sake of it.
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Post by Cari Thu 26 May 2011, 9:24 am

I'd say the difference is that a WUM is a comment/article which you've written to intentionally annoy people. You might include some derogatory phrase or insult in it, and it doesn't give any constructive opinion. Playing devil's advocate is just expressing a less popular opinion because you agree with it or because you want to look at something from another angle and you do so constructively.

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Post by red_stag Thu 26 May 2011, 9:26 am

I love fine lines Smile
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Post by Schrodinger's Cat Thu 26 May 2011, 9:26 am

Well Stag, a Devil's advocate picks flaws and takes contrary opinions, even if he or she doesn't agree with the position, for the sake of creating debate. It is not necessarily to wind someone up, but can be used to help someone make their argument watertight. With WUM on the other hand, the clue is in the title.

The term Devil's advocate comes from the Roman Catholic Church, where if someone was to be canonised, the Devil's advocate was a canon lawyer who would take a skeptical view and effectively argue against the canonisation. That way, in theory, only deserving candidates would be canonised.

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Post by ospreylian Thu 26 May 2011, 10:58 am

So that's Glas a du and Red_stag that we now know HAVE to be watched!

A moderaters life is so hard.

As an aside I used to be convinced that Red_stag was based somewhere in Wales around the Carmarthen area :huh:

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Post by doctor_grey Thu 26 May 2011, 11:01 am

Isn't a WUM kind of like art? Hard to put into words, but we know it when we see it? Strange analogy, I know.

I didn't use the 606 boards until recently, but read it for quite a while. I enjoy good banter and have no problem when people light each other up, as long as in good fun. People cross the line, but that also happens in real life. I lean towards the side of tolerance, but when things move towards offending with purpose, I would agree its time people are offered a permanent vacation.

Let's hope for the best as we go forwards.

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Post by Guest Thu 26 May 2011, 11:03 am

exactly doctor_grey - as long as we all go ahead with that mindset we shall be fine Smile

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu 26 May 2011, 11:03 am

From some of the discussion on old 606 it appears the worst of the WUMS are leaning towards the (unmoderated apparently) JA606 Smile

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Post by red_stag Thu 26 May 2011, 11:04 am

ospreylian wrote:As an aside I used to be convinced that Red_stag was based somewhere in Wales around the Carmarthen area :huh:

You knew I was a Munster fan didn't you?
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Post by ospreylian Thu 26 May 2011, 11:09 am

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That's exactly the way i see it too, for unadulterated, SENSIBLE rugby chat, then look no further than this forum. Very Happy

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Never ever doubted that, I'm also aware that you officiate at games too, when you get more proficient and get to do the big games look out for me when in wales.............I'm the one who ALWAYS calls the refs decisions.

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Post by Glas a du Thu 26 May 2011, 11:10 am

ospreylian wrote:So that's Glas a du and Red_stag that we now know HAVE to be watched!

A moderaters life is so hard.

As an aside I used to be convinced that Red_stag was based somewhere in Wales around the Carmarthen area :huh:

You were thinking about the Stag and Pheasant.
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Post by Cari Thu 26 May 2011, 11:11 am

Staggy - there's a woman from Carmarthen who's a massive Munster fan. Everytime there's a Munster game on S4C they interview her in the crowd. It's quite odd seeing a Munster fan speaking Welsh Smile

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Post by Glas a du Thu 26 May 2011, 11:15 am

Cari wrote:Staggy - there's a woman from Carmarthen who's a massive Munster fan. Everytime there's a Munster game on S4C they interview her in the crowd. It's quite odd seeing a Munster fan speaking Welsh Smile

What's the link? There must be a link? I mean you wouldn't, of choice...would you? Good grief!
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 26 May 2011, 11:22 am

I've seen her too, Cari. She doesn't have any family ties to Munster or anything if I remember, she just decided to follow them.

Her name's Gloria Hunter Wink

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Post by Cari Thu 26 May 2011, 11:24 am

I can't remember Glas. She lives in Wales, and she was at the last Munster game in Thomond shown on S4C.

Lucky - ha! She should be a Leinster fan then surely! censored

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 26 May 2011, 11:25 am

If Munster lose on the weekend, she probably will be a Leinster fan next season!

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Post by ospreylian Thu 26 May 2011, 11:25 am

Yes she's blond and beautiful too, much too good looking for a Scarlets fan, but she likes the red shirt! Rolling Eyes

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Post by Cari Thu 26 May 2011, 11:26 am

Ospreylian you do exaggerate - but she's blonde though.

I reckon she's after Wally. But even I wouldn't do that! Very Happy

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Post by Guest Thu 26 May 2011, 11:27 am

"much too good looking for a Scarlets fan"

We'll be having less of that talk please Ospreylian! Wink

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Post by ospreylian Thu 26 May 2011, 11:45 am

Astride the fence............the best looking girls come from Bridgend.

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Post by PenfroPete Thu 26 May 2011, 12:00 pm

What's the link ?
She's lived there for years hasn't she ?

I've never seen a good looking girl from Bridgend on a fence Shocked
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Post by red_stag Thu 26 May 2011, 12:35 pm

When I was in Munich (2008) the two most popular teams were Munster and Clermont. I'm willing to bet that Leinster and Toulouse are the more popular ones now.
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Post by EggbertEnglishman Thu 26 May 2011, 3:53 pm

No.

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Post by offload Thu 26 May 2011, 4:26 pm

PenfroPete wrote:What's the link ?
She's lived there for years hasn't she ?

I've never seen a good looking girl from Bridgend on a fence Shocked


Three words too long from the the truth Wink
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Post by Glas a du Thu 26 May 2011, 7:08 pm

You'll always see a pretty girl in Lampeter.
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Post by Guest Thu 26 May 2011, 7:15 pm

Glas a du wrote:You'll always see a pretty girl in Lampeter.


surely sarcasm? laughing

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Post by rhino-dragon Thu 26 May 2011, 8:28 pm

Never mind who is watching for the WUMs who is watching the watchman?

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Post by rodders Thu 26 May 2011, 9:25 pm

A good WUM keeps people on their toes. 606 wouldn't have been the same without Greyghost, cyrill etc. Over moderation isn't a good thing IMHO.
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Post by Glas a du Thu 26 May 2011, 9:32 pm

rugbydreamer wrote:
Glas a du wrote:You'll always see a pretty girl in Lampeter.


surely sarcasm? laughing

Counter intuitive I know, and trust me they are not local! But I haven't failed to spot one whilst driving through there yet. Stopping the car breaks the spell though and they disappear leaving only a trail of fairy dust.
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Post by Glas a du Thu 26 May 2011, 9:33 pm

rhino-dragon wrote:Never mind who is watching for the WUMs who is watching the watchman?

Ah, quis custodet custodes? The age old question for a democracy.
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Post by Glas a du Thu 26 May 2011, 9:40 pm

roddersm wrote:A good WUM keeps people on their toes. 606 wouldn't have been the same without Greyghost, cyrill etc. Over moderation isn't a good thing IMHO.

Agreed, but haven't seen sign of it, or of people pushing it yet. As Mrs P herself of your parts said. We can disagree without being disagreeable, no?
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Post by Totallybiasedscarlet Thu 26 May 2011, 9:58 pm

Hmmm, talk about flaming. I daresay a lot of us got dragged into long running arguments over on 606. I remember one particular argument with a particularly obtuse poster - Steviegen who absolutely went out of his way do slag off the Scarlets and tried to put me down like some sort of village idiot. Got the better of him though. He said the Blues were better than the Scarlets because they had a "Rugby Charter." I didn't need to say much after that laughing

Always a few around though who are just determined to rile you up, though I suppose you shouldn't rise to it. The worst though is Spidey Jones who posts on the Evening Post website. Has been noticeable only by his absence since the Ospreys stumbled over the line at Aironi! Whistle
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Post by Great White Fri 27 May 2011, 11:51 am

I dunno, but i'm keeping my eyes peeled for that toss pot Saint WLG

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Post by red_stag Fri 27 May 2011, 11:52 am

Great White, I don't think he'd hard to find if he did appear Wink
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Post by Great White Fri 27 May 2011, 11:57 am

He had serious issues. Serious.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Fri 27 May 2011, 12:12 pm

Great White wrote:He had serious issues. Serious.

Many of them could be summed up by the word "adolescence". Or "immaturity" admittedly. Hopefully for his sake he'll improve with age.
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Post by Great White Fri 27 May 2011, 12:20 pm

I thought they could be summed up by the words 'insecure', 'xenophobic' and 'prat'.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Fri 27 May 2011, 12:25 pm

Great White wrote:I thought they could be summed up by the words 'insecure', 'xenophobic' and 'prat'.

I was being nice to the poor wee lad, I'm not really disagreeing with you Wink.

Funny how I'm not missing Hersh, WLG, Viewto, Jericho, MikeyPhil, Miaow, Boyne, GG, etc.
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Post by Great White Fri 27 May 2011, 12:28 pm

WLG and View are 'special' friends, so they wont be far away from each other. GreyGhost is busy cleaning tables in McDonalds I expect.

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