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Post by SetupDeterminesTheMotion Wed 06 Jul 2011, 3:59 pm

First topic message reminder :

A little £10 on GMac at 20/1....that will do nicely.
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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 10 Jul 2011, 11:59 am

Love the 12.05 tee-time:
Montgomerie, Clarke, Westwood.

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Post by SmithersJones Sun 10 Jul 2011, 12:03 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Love the 12.05 tee-time:
Montgomerie, Clarke, Westwood.

I saw that. Westwood ought to be disappointed to be there though. Having hit the par 5 12th on Friday in two, leaving himself a makeable eagle putt, he walked off there this morning with a par. Managed one more birdie coming in to be -1 for his second round. Not good enough.
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Post by McLaren Sun 10 Jul 2011, 12:47 pm

Is the open qualification from this event still just that the highest finishing player not already qualified gets into the open?

If so a great chance for monty.
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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 10 Jul 2011, 12:49 pm

Top five only. If all the top five are already in, Thomas Bjorn gets the call.

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Post by barragan Sun 10 Jul 2011, 12:49 pm

monty two under after two - eagle?? so many contenders at the top its going to be tough for anyone to run away with this.

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Post by barragan Sun 10 Jul 2011, 12:51 pm

why bjorn kwini?

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Post by ryan86 Sun 10 Jul 2011, 12:53 pm

What happens if two players who have not yet qualified finish T2 behind someone who has already qualified? Highest in World Rankings, best final round?

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Post by McLaren Sun 10 Jul 2011, 12:53 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Top five only. If all the top five are already in, Thomas Bjorn gets the call.

I see, I knew I had missed something. Still a good chance for monty given he is only one of the lead.
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Post by barragan Sun 10 Jul 2011, 12:54 pm

birdie birdie birdie for tullo - five at the top

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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 10 Jul 2011, 12:59 pm

ban_bam:
Thomas Bjorn? He is the next highest player in the world rankings not already qualified.

ryan: In the event of ties I think the first tie-breaker is final round score as you suggest. Then second round (would have been third round) scores.
Same at John Deere except obviously it's a four-round event. Hopefully.


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Post by barragan Sun 10 Jul 2011, 1:02 pm

i see,
great if monty could do it - win that is. surprised westy hasnt come out of the blocks faster.

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Post by WillyGilly Sun 10 Jul 2011, 1:37 pm

Monty's on the charge!
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Post by barragan Sun 10 Jul 2011, 1:46 pm

seven at -11
eight at -10
twelve at -9

come on monty - charge like a wilderbeast!

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Post by super_realist Sun 10 Jul 2011, 2:00 pm

Ban Bam, Are you playing Alyth on Saturday?

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Post by WillyGilly Sun 10 Jul 2011, 2:04 pm

Might I ask a question of the golf anoraks on here. What is the situation is there are upwards of 4/5 players in a playoff? Do they go out in 2 groups or is it a free for all?
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Post by McLaren Sun 10 Jul 2011, 2:41 pm

It is sudden death, so I guess they would all have to play in the same group.
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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 10 Jul 2011, 2:44 pm

"golf anorak"?

Can't relate to that description, can't relate to any kind of anorak come to think of it.
But: On the PGA Tour they'd go out as a fivesome, sixsome, whatever.
Don't know what the European Tour does, but I remember the dismay when the R&A sent Appleby, Elkington, Els and Levet out as two pairs. Doubt they'd do that again.

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Post by McLaren Sun 10 Jul 2011, 3:08 pm

Kwini

I seem to remember I missed that open but what is wrong with sending 4 guys out together in a play off?
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Post by kwinigolfer Sun 10 Jul 2011, 3:14 pm

Mac, Willy Gilly,
Apologies, they sent them out as two twosomes. So each pair couldn't see what the other pair was up to. Completely hosed that response . . . .
I'll edit my daft reply.

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Post by WillyGilly Sun 10 Jul 2011, 3:25 pm

Doesn't matter kiwi I get the jist. Doesn't look as if it's going to be relevant anyway. Lukey's looking good for this.
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Post by McLaren Sun 10 Jul 2011, 3:35 pm

You do wonder sometimes, cant imagine what the R and A were thinking on that one.
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Post by barragan Sun 10 Jul 2011, 3:42 pm

s_r - yep, looking forward to it. fingers crossed the weathers ok. got washed off the course at fortrose yesterday, comp cancelled as we finished the 12. we were the last group out, and the first had completed 28.

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Post by Shotrock Sun 10 Jul 2011, 4:36 pm

Great course, but the crowds seem small. What's the gate at a tournament like this if anyone knows?

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Post by WillyGilly Sun 10 Jul 2011, 4:41 pm

The beeb said they were hoping for around 25k through the course.

To be honest I'm a tad dissapointed Luke's getting away with this, was hoping for a playoff. GMac in serious shoite here.
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Post by WillyGilly Sun 10 Jul 2011, 6:24 pm

63. Nice way to win Luke.
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Post by Doon the Water Sun 10 Jul 2011, 7:52 pm

Willy
I remember watching 9 guys playing in a 4 and a 5 going for one place in The Open qualifing.

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Post by barragan Sun 10 Jul 2011, 8:24 pm

shotrock
think i heard on radio there were 16000 for the final day. 12000 on thurs. both up on loch lomond's tally last year for thurs and sun.

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Post by Lairdy Mon 11 Jul 2011, 9:55 am

Must have been my lucky week! I went up on Thursday to see the golf and had a great day. Mananged to end up with some pretty serious looking sunburn to boot. In defence of the course I drove through some of the heaviest rain I've ever driven thro' to and from the the course that day. Thro' Aviemore was horrendous. Was also at a wedding near Peterhead on saturday and again there was some torrential rain showers driving up... and down! It was washing the central reservation on to the carridgeway so if that kind of rain settled over the golf course for any length of time then its no suprise the damage and delay it caused. Freakish.

Would love to go back to Castle Stuart for a round. Would be a great course for the amateur considering the wide fairways. Def a must play now. Managed to follow some big groups - Monty, Donald and Hanson; Hanson's ball striking really is superb. Donald's short game was just warming up when I saw him Thu, never in any trouble though. Saw the #1 going for a pee too... Monty still is a big drama queen! Oh the agony of another missed putt.. get on with it Colin! Saw a little bit of Laird, Goosen and A.Nother. Laird is a bit slow...

Oh my god Gary Woodland can bomb it!! Stood at the landing area for the drives on the par5 6th. He was 60-70 yards further down than his playing partners. Must have hit something like driver, 9iron into that hole. He had 30 yards on Westwood when I saw his drive later. Very similar how those two golfers carry themselves around the course.

Followed Paddy and Mick for a few holes. POD's game was looking solid, just some refining required. Phil was a goon one minute a genius the next! Got to witness some of the famous banter between him and his caddie, Bones. Superb! And as always he was very generous to the crowds and the kids. Bones must wonder where all the balls end up! Lawrie throws his into the gorse... he was a bit sourly when we saw him! Snedeker was suprisingly calm after we realised he'd took 9 on the 2nd! Never saw the root of that number but we did raise an eyebrow when the scorer put +9 up! Quickly changed to +4.

After getting a bit crowded out on the less favourable front 9 for spectators we decided to catch the start of the back 9, which we hadnt seen yet. Ended up following Siem, Lynn and Storm along the water for a bit. Well! Siem's english is pretty good! Never seen a golfer curse so much and that's including saturday medals at my club! Just as well there was hardly anyone following them. Storm gave it a go as well whilst complaining about being +3 after the easier front 9. Eff'ing away before his scottish caddie calmly replied, "Aye well, you'll just have tae get oan wi it then won't ye?" That was him told, just before he almost snapped his driver off the ground... this was all while David Lynn was the picture of calm and, with his rather unorthodox set up, proceeded to play some pretty good golf.

After too much of Siem's swearing and the dark Storm we decided to head home but not before we stumbled up around the corner to arrive at the quiet side of the drivable 16th where GMac was walking up to his ball with pretty much no one else around! Stood yards away from his incredibily small feet whilst he played his chip onto the green. Sand wedge, face WIDE open and THUMP! Then watched Lawrie drive it, POD putt on from 30 yards off the green, Kuchar float in a pitch and Gallacher bump and run after nearly clattering us with his tee ball. He did shout though. Was a great place to watch the variety within the best short games in the world. All watched from one of the best spots on a great course with a truly stunning setting. Well, it was when the sun was out.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 11 Jul 2011, 10:03 am

Lairdy,
Sounds a great day.
I warned you Laird was a bit slow!
I had exactly same reaction re Westwood and Woodland.
And: Don't tell gaelgowler about McDowell's feet . . . . .

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Post by Lairdy Mon 11 Jul 2011, 10:27 am

Laird not even aware of where his playing partners' ball markers were on one green. Of course that occasionally happens to us all but it highlighted that he's maybe not always zoned in to what's going on around him. Of course totally in his own zone, which you should be, but yes... hmmm.

Comical moment, I thought, when during a torrential downpour with driving rain (only lasted 10mins) Billy Foster rips up some grass and tosses it into the air.... err... just look what direction the rain is going Billy haha! laughing

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Post by JPX Mon 11 Jul 2011, 11:06 am

George1507 wrote:
JPX wrote:
George1507 wrote: but the English Amateur Championship is not played on links courses.
List of previous courses on the rota for the English shows otherwise:

Royal St Georges
Saunton
Lytham St Annes
St. Mellion
Royal Liverpool
Royal Cinqu Ports
Birkdale
Hillside
Burnham & Berrow
Formby

OK, those are the exceptions. This year it's at Woburn, previous venues include -

Wentworth
Woodhall Spa
Moortown
Alwoodley
Walton Heath
Little Aston
Hollinwell
Gosforth
Mid Surrey
Berkshire
Bromborough
Ganton
Frilford Heath

Yes I know it is played on inland courses too, I was just prooving my point that it is played on links courses, after you categorically said it wasn't, in a kind of "you know nothing" way.

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Post by LadyPutt Mon 11 Jul 2011, 3:24 pm

Lairdy - have you seen that greenfees for Castle Stuart are £160 (or only £130 in April and November). Course is closed from end of November to beginning of April. Do you still want to play it???
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Post by Lairdy Mon 11 Jul 2011, 3:32 pm

LadyPutt wrote:Lairdy - have you seen that greenfees for Castle Stuart are £160 (or only £130 in April and November). Course is closed from end of November to beginning of April. Do you still want to play it???

£92 if you're from Scotland Wink Still expensive I know. I wont be this year I can tell you that! On the list now though.

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