Future English Cricket Stars

Who's the future of English Cricket? Name your young cricketers XI below (Cut off age of 22)

Heres mine:

1) Alex Hales
2) Liam Dawson
3) Josh Cobb
4) James Vince
5) James Taylor
6) Ben Stokes
7) Jos Buttler (WK)
8) Chris Woakes
9) Scott Borthwick
10) Stuart Meaker
11) Steve Finn

Nearby Inclusions: Reece Topley,James Harris,Lewis Gregory,Jason Roy,Jonathan Bairstow, Danny Briggs

Id say Roy over Dawson.

Wells over Cobb (very close tho)

Briggs over Borthwick and Harris over Maker.

Ansari is worth a shout as well...

From Hants...

Briggs + Vince most likely

Dawson, Wood, Bates maybes

A vote for Roy (+ casting a proxy vote for Roy from his greatest supporter - Guildfordbat )

Meaker looks good when not disrupted by injuries. And agree we should keep an eye on Ansari - though he has yet to play in the cc.

Northeast was looking good - though his form seems to be going south west at the moment....

Corporal - thank you for using the proxy vote so wisely.

I have just returned from the Oval after tonight's tremendous win against Hants. A report will appear on the Surrey thread shortly. Before anyone says Roy failed tonight, please have a look at my report first ....

watched Somerset Vs Gloucestershire today, first time i've seen Gregory bowl live, looks very sharp and is also good in the field taking i think 3 or 4 catches in the game.

Buttler in as standard hit 74* or so today, exactly what we needed

Craig Meschede would be one to keep an eye on i reckon

Hales
Roy
Vince
Taylor
Stokes
Buttler
Bairstow(wk)
Borthwick
Harris
Finn
Topley

Come on guys lets continue the discussion.
plz comment on my team guys.

Shanky,

I have to admit I don't know all the youngsters on the county scene that well these days. Being an old poster, my cricket knowledge is largely stuck in a 1970/80s time warp apart from Surrey today and their recent opponents.

However, on the basis of that distinctly dodgy awareness, I'll say that your team seems pretty sensible and sound.

To comment on some.

You have the good sense to include Jason Roy in your team. That suggests you know at least a bit about what you are talking about - well done!

James Taylor is a very fine player and particularly good selection. His county side are fairly abysmal (apart from Henderson) and that should be taken into account when assessing his performances.

Buttler and Bairstow both look good and may well have what it takes.

Two I'm not sure about are Stokes and Topley. I fully accept they've both put in some useful performances so far. However, I'm not convinced they'll kick on so much as to succeed at international level.

I don't see Stokes having the ability or even the potential to be a test match bowler. If he continues to even partly concentrate on his bowling, that could hinder his batting potential and result in him being a decent county batting all rounder but no more than that.

Topley can be erratic and expensive. That doesn't necessarily disappear with age. Perhaps I'm just biased and stuck in that time warp again as I remember his father, Don, whose early promise fizzled away and led to a very ordinary career on the county boards.

Thanks for continuing an interesting debate.

My old School Mate James Vince was sensational against us today. If he's not in at least the Lions squad by the winter then I would be shocked!

1)Sam Northeast
2)Alex Hales
3)Josh Cobb
4)James Vince
5)Dawid Malan
6)Jonny Bairstow (WK)
7)Ben Stokes
8)Simon Kerrigan
9)Stuart meaker
10)Nathan Buck
11)Steve Finn

having earlier said Buttler appeared as thought it was near enough obvious he would be a star i still feel this is a huge season for him as so far he has had a bit of second season syndrome by not doing anywhere near as well as last year. This year he has only produced performances every so often which has seen him dropped from the somerset side earlier in this season

Anyway you look at it the future of English cricket is incredibly bright!

thing is England probably could have a second XI which could quite comfortably compete in tests/ODI's with a few of the full member teams.

hodge wrote:thing is England probably could have a second XI which could quite comfortably compete in tests/ODI's with a few of the full member teams.

Hales
Lyth
Taylor
Hildreth
Bopara/Patel
Stokes
Davies(wk)
Bresnan
Woakes
Onions
Panesar/Rashid

Something like that?

Vince over Stokes for me, but yeah something like that

Gregers wrote:Vince over Stokes for me, but yeah something like that

Vince over Bopara for me Stokes adds something more with ball and is just as good a batter as Ravi.

how many overs has Simon Jones been bowling in 4 day games anyone know? Because he is still bowling at 90 odd mph and is looking good.

I would have said over Bopara as well, but the England selectors seem intent on giving him as many chances as possible.

Next Question, should England form a proper second string team (The Lions) and face the associate nations in test series?

hodge wrote:how many overs has Simon Jones been bowling in 4 day games anyone know? Because he is still bowling at 90 odd mph and is looking good.

Theres always going to be a injury worry with Jones. Shame waste of a talented bowler.

they would certainly be able to imo and perform well enough to, it would also provide a great platform for the full england team

Forgot about Finn in my team
Probably put him in in place of Woakes.

Bresnan
Finn
Onions
Panesar

Probably as good a bowling line-up as anyone outside of South Africa and England's first choice.

Liam_Main wrote:

hodge wrote:how many overs has Simon Jones been bowling in 4 day games anyone know? Because he is still bowling at 90 odd mph and is looking good.

Theres always going to be a injury worry with Jones. Shame waste of a talented bowler.

which is why i wonderd how many overs he has been bowling in 4 day games, he only comes off what looks to be a short run up now, and as his speed comes from his action while bowling he doesn't need the momentum from the run up.

hodge wrote:they would certainly be able to imo and perform well enough to, it would also provide a great platform for the full england team

Mate,there's no chance in hell England will play him, so much depth with Englands bowlers now a days. Good to see him playing Country Cricket though.

Another quick option would be James Harris of Glamorgan. Bags of talent there.

Woakes has digressed a tad this year. He'll come good again tho, too much talent not to

Liam_Main wrote:

hodge wrote:they would certainly be able to imo and perform well enough to, it would also provide a great platform for the full england team

Mate,there's no chance in hell England will play him, so much depth with Englands bowlers now a days. Good to see him playing Country Cricket though.

did you mean to quote my comment on Jones?

Gregers wrote:Another quick option would be James Harris of Glamorgan. Bags of talent there.
Woakes has digressed a tad this year. He'll come good again tho, too much talent not to

Stuart Meaker down at Surrey as well possibly?

Would agree with Woakes he hasn't played brilliant for country and county.

hodge wrote:

Liam_Main wrote:

hodge wrote:they would certainly be able to imo and perform well enough to, it would also provide a great platform for the full england team

Mate,there's no chance in hell England will play him, so much depth with Englands bowlers now a days. Good to see him playing Country Cricket though.

did you mean to quote my comment on Jones?

Yep my bad

Gregers wrote:Another quick option would be James Harris of Glamorgan. Bags of talent there.

Woakes has digressed a tad this year. He'll come good again tho, too much talent not to

thing with Harris is like Liam has said there are so many talented English bowlers atm it could be hard for him to break through. A spell in the lions could probably quickly say if he would survive or not.

Woakes' batting has been on show this year though even if his bowling hasn't been, so he still displaying his quality,

Harris could be the next anderson.

Also I cant believe we've got this far without mentioning Briggs, IMO he offers far more than Rashid does

hodge wrote:

Gregers wrote:Another quick option would be James Harris of Glamorgan. Bags of talent there.

Woakes has digressed a tad this year. He'll come good again tho, too much talent not to

thing with Harris is like Liam has said there are so many talented English bowlers atm it could be hard for him to break through. A spell in the lions could probably quickly say if he would survive or not.

Woakes' batting has been on show this year though even if his bowling hasn't been, so he still displaying his quality,

Bresnan,Broad,Finn,Dernbach,Woakes are all ahead of him at the moment so it's going to be tough to break into the side. Though a good county season could put him in contention.

don't know much about Briggs for 4 day cricket although in the shorter formats he looks a real talent, so I would say Rashid 4 day, Briggs 1 day an T20

Gregers wrote:Harris could be the next anderson.

Also I cant believe we've got this far without mentioning Briggs, IMO he offers far more than Rashid does

Add Borthwick to that as well,a lot of talent spin choices for England.

Rashid has fallen out with the England selectors I can see Briggs or Borthwick getting a England game before him.

How about Chris Nash as a late bloomer into the England side, he's been in sensational form for us this season with both bat and ball.

Plus Davies, well not exactly new, should soon get above Prior (as much as it pains me to say it).

Swann has a good few years left in him so Briggs/Rashid/Borthwick/Ansari (and Panesar) will have to wait for an injury or a massive dip in form

na not nash.

I really rate Nash tho

I really rate Hildreth however i dont feel he should be in the england side atm, only KP's place i feel is under threat and atm i would say Taylor is in the lead for it

Personally I would put Vince ahead of Taylor. Although admittedly u havnt seen anywhere as much of Taylor

Hoggy
so you would pick broad in the first XI?Come on mate.bresnan,finn and onions are all better choices for test cricket.

I think Hildreth is the next in line for a test batting slot, then Taylor. I haven't included Bopara as I think he has had enough chances and shouldn't get another unless he is exceptional in CC.

Really rate Briggs as a bowler. He was the Lions top wicket taker in the WI over the winter so he obviously has something about him in the 4 day format.

Taylor>Vince>Hildreth

1)Karl Brown
2)Jack Manuel
3)Josh Cobb
4)James Vince
5)James Taylor
6)Jason Roy
7)Jos Buttler (WK)
8)Ashley Shaw
9)Steven Finn
10)Stuart Meaker
11)Scott Borthwick

Alex Hales hit a century today for Notts today. Could be in line for a ODI slot in the next few years.

hmmm possibly, but i think he might be in for a test place before odi..

Meh, generally I think its easier to get your debut in a ODI side. More games and the shorter nature of the game makes it more likely you consider a replacement if a guy isnt fully fit.

but strauss will retire soon so there will be an opening at the top of the order, as i think for once the selectors will look to see if this partnership at the top in odi's actually works

Hales fits better at 3 or lower, where he's batting atm imo.

in 4 day stuff, i think he should be opening.

Wasn't a roaring success last season and Fletcher opened late last season I think. Right now, he's not an opener imo.

fletcher???

do u mean franks?