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Post by Driver Wed 13 Jul 2011, 11:21 pm

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Post by prop_lyd Sun 31 Jul 2011, 12:19 pm

Guys Eq sh Dan White is available if anyone's interested otherwise i'll be releasing him.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 31 Jul 2011, 12:25 pm

Next weeks game will tell us a lot about Australia regardless of the result and it will tell us a lot about New Zealand if they lose. Expect two strong teams to be named.

My preseason games also begin next saturday so should be an all round good day

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Post by Guest Sun 31 Jul 2011, 12:32 pm

I thought mils, carter, Guildford,Jane, macaw and hore were on top form. Interesting to see what team they pick next week

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Post by Driver Sun 31 Jul 2011, 12:43 pm

That Ioane's latest celebration Steve lol?
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 31 Jul 2011, 3:14 pm

Carlton form the Fresh Prince of Bel Air Stevey boy?
Classic show king

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 31 Jul 2011, 3:39 pm

That is the dance that goes on in my head when i watch the Reds play

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 31 Jul 2011, 3:45 pm

It kinda looks like Cooper going in for a tackle Steve Wink

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 31 Jul 2011, 3:48 pm

Laugh

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 31 Jul 2011, 3:50 pm

Ian Bell is a tool

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 31 Jul 2011, 3:52 pm

That was terrible

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Post by Driver Sun 31 Jul 2011, 3:52 pm

Against the spirit of the game the decision from the umpires
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Post by Driver Sun 31 Jul 2011, 3:57 pm

Actually the more you watch it you think what a knob
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 31 Jul 2011, 3:58 pm

Rubbish. Careless play from Ian Bell. Absolutely within there rights to take the bails off and appeal. Nothing to do with the spirit of the game in my book.

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Post by Driver Sun 31 Jul 2011, 4:07 pm

The booing is a joke beyond belief.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 31 Jul 2011, 4:09 pm

What has happened here then?? Fair play India

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Post by Driver Sun 31 Jul 2011, 4:13 pm

Ian Bell is the luckiest cricket player in the world at the moment. Great sportsmanship from India.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 31 Jul 2011, 4:15 pm

There's no chance Pakistan or the Aussies would have done that!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 31 Jul 2011, 4:44 pm

I don't think England would have to be honest with you. I was sickened a few years back when an England fielder flattened the NZ batsman on his way for a run and england ran him out. They refused to withdraw the appeal. When Collingwood was captain

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Post by stnick88 Sun 31 Jul 2011, 8:29 pm

Lads I'm off to Ibiza to rave it up for a week so won't be on here, same team as last week please!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 31 Jul 2011, 10:23 pm

Don't take too many narcotics Nick. You might sell me Fourie for Crockett Wink

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 31 Jul 2011, 10:23 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Anyone watch the Canterbury game today guys? Really interested to see what people made of Tyler Bleyendaal - he got a try and kicked a lot of goals from the sound of it. He was the star of last years u20 tournament and quite a few have said he was natural heir to Carter in the 10 jersey, but then went a bit quiet, but looks like he's made a good start to this season

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7070312,00.html

Did you watch the game Chris? I recorded it and am just watching it now.
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 01 Aug 2011, 8:06 am

no I didnt Pete, I am being rationed two games of rugby a weekend at the moment until the World Cup - so I watched the NZ v Boks game and didn't worry with anything else.

Be good to know what you think of him, when I watched him for the u20s he looked a class above everyone else, got on the bench a few times for Canterbury last season, but for some reason couldnt knock some guy called Dan Carter from the starting 10 shirt - not sure why, apparently Carter is the next big thing - personally not so sure...

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 01 Aug 2011, 8:49 am

He played alright, but nothing to write home about. Having said that it was a scrappy game with loads of handling errors and Canterbury only started to get on top when Manawatu lost Cruden to injury.

Bleyendaal I have seen a few times last season, mainly off the bench, as I love watching the ITM Cup, some fantastic rugby on show usually. I think he will do well. Unsurprisingly he is quite similar in style to DC, will be interesting to see how he progresses and will be easier to assess where he is at once he has this season under his belt.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 01 Aug 2011, 10:10 am

"Be good to know what you think of him, when I watched him for the u20s he looked a class above everyone else, got on the bench a few times for Canterbury last season, but for some reason couldnt knock some guy called Dan Carter from the starting 10 shirt - not sure why, apparently Carter is the next big thing - personally not so sure..."

I don't think Carter played too many games in the ITM last season Chris. Slade took them to the championship.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 01 Aug 2011, 1:15 pm

Worsley, Chuter, Strettle, Waldrom and JSD released from RWC training camp

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Post by Guest Mon 01 Aug 2011, 1:38 pm

Interesting. looks like sharples is in with a shout

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 01 Aug 2011, 1:53 pm

Good for me in this game that Chuter is released, means I have him and Gary Botha as my hookers during the World Cup. Pleased with that.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 01 Aug 2011, 2:52 pm

Think Sharples is nailed on Matt with Strettle & JSD released. I'd be very happy with Sharples going and good to see Worsley released too.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 01 Aug 2011, 2:55 pm

Not sure he's nailed on Pooly, will depend on the make up of the squad in other areas as to how many back three players go. Could be a good call taking him though, often a bolter can go and have a real impact as the other teams haven't/can't plan for them.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 01 Aug 2011, 3:02 pm

Don't think Sharples is nailed on but I'd say its now in his hands. Play well in warm ups and he has a good chance

Could just take Foden, Ashton, Cueto, Armitage, Banahan and Monye to cover back 3 with banahan covering centre as well

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 01 Aug 2011, 3:07 pm

Be interesting to see what the line up is for Saturday. Is the team announcement Tuesday or Wednesday does anyone know?
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Post by Guest Mon 01 Aug 2011, 3:32 pm

Very interesting indeed. Poor for me on here but he was the form wing in England and apparently has gone down storming in training.

Sharples is from my old school and i bumped into the sports master at the cheltenham cricket festival saturday. he was saying the reason sharples gets better and better is that he is so bright. apparently both parents are doctors and he was going that way.

Having a brain helps big time. considering other players from my school like Garvey and Lamb are brain dead mongs it really illustrates the point. they were never going to go all the way and figure things out

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 01 Aug 2011, 3:37 pm

You were a st peter's boy? They took our 3 year unbeaten streak when I was at Wyedean!!
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Post by Guest Mon 01 Aug 2011, 3:49 pm

i am indeed a St. peters boy Lyd. We always had good sides. the sportsmaster Dave Pointon now coaches at Cinderford as well.


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Post by Guest Mon 01 Aug 2011, 3:50 pm

Think i lost 3 games in 6 odd years there. they were daily Mail Semi finals and A random loss somewhere else

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 01 Aug 2011, 3:59 pm

Yeah I played against his son Danny and probably a few others back then! Poor Pointon being stuck going to a place such as Cinderford vomit
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 01 Aug 2011, 5:47 pm

Did people see Eddie Jones' comments about why England wont win the WC? All about the halfbacks...doesnt think YOungs and Flood are clever enough and make the right decisions, points at the Ireland game where they just looked to run it and got mullered by the Irish backrow for 80mins.

Agree with him, Floods come on leaps and bounds but never in a million years will he be a world class player, is capable of great things but not consistently, Wilko would always start for me.

What do people think of YOungs form? He seemed to drift well off around January time or so...

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 01 Aug 2011, 5:56 pm

Youngs looked ok to me Chris. He has the potential to be a very very good international scrum half. Needs to work on his game still, but has the basics and has all the attributes to get there.

I have said before that Flood is not a top class international 10 and never will be. He will have occasional great games but will never play to a world class standard consistently. Is Wilko the answer? I am not sure. Although still international class he is probably past his best, and post world cup England need to think long and hard about who their long term 10 should be and start blooding them as early as possible.
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Post by Guest Tue 02 Aug 2011, 10:05 am

Bizarre in the extreme

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7076639,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 02 Aug 2011, 10:15 am

He's been slightly off form in a gold jersey but had a great S15, odd call. Think Vickerman brings a bit more grunt which they lack a little.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 02 Aug 2011, 10:58 am

I wouldn't read too much into it. Deans probably just wants to get Vickerman some game time and have a look at him. He knows what Sharpe brings and I'll be surprised if he isn't in the World Cup squad.
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Post by Guest Tue 02 Aug 2011, 11:03 am

Vickerman has barely played in years and for me would struggle. Simmons is a good prospect but for me is being played at least a season or two to soon. good experience thought but you would not win a world cup with Simmons at lock

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 02 Aug 2011, 12:23 pm

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 02 Aug 2011, 5:44 pm

http://www.espnscrum.com/wales/rugby/story/145269.html

That could be double good news for me. I reckon Warburton will be a Lions captain in the future.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 02 Aug 2011, 5:57 pm

This title also made me giggle

http://www.espnscrum.com/super-rugby-2011/rugby/story/145308.html

probably time to think about growing up

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 02 Aug 2011, 6:12 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:http://www.espnscrum.com/wales/rugby/story/145269.html

That could be double good news for me. I reckon Warburton will be a Lions captain in the future.

Bold statement Steve....I'd say he needs to get in the side first, depending on options at 6 I'd have O'Brien and Barclay ahead of him myself.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 02 Aug 2011, 6:14 pm

SOB isn't a better 7 that Warburton in my book. Barclay would probably be ahead of him now but not in 2 or 6 years

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 02 Aug 2011, 6:16 pm

Lions is still 2 years away, and I doubt if many of the players who made the trip in 2009 would have been nailed on starters in 2007.

Too much can happen between now and then to be honest for any predictions to have much basis. If he carries on the way he has been, he'll be a contender for sure, but who knows who else might stick their hand up between now and then.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 02 Aug 2011, 6:20 pm

It's all speculation, the lions teams on the main board drive me mad. I'd take SOB well over Warbs at 7 if Ferris/Heaslip fit, all opinions though. Warbs is progressing well.

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