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Might be way off the mark but here me out.
Is Chris jericho coming back for punk?
1. Punk is wearing a t saying "best in the world".
(jericho says this)
2. Punk is having a undisputed title match.
(jericho was the 1st)
3. Punk referenced Jericho on raw,which jericho responded to via Twitter.
(Jericho didn't like him mentioning his name on live t.v)
4. When Jericho left,I read immediately after he would be back around summerslam time from various people.
I don't know Haha.
Is Chris jericho coming back for punk?
1. Punk is wearing a t saying "best in the world".
(jericho says this)
2. Punk is having a undisputed title match.
(jericho was the 1st)
3. Punk referenced Jericho on raw,which jericho responded to via Twitter.
(Jericho didn't like him mentioning his name on live t.v)
4. When Jericho left,I read immediately after he would be back around summerslam time from various people.
I don't know Haha.
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Punk should be in a far higher profile feud than one with Chris Jericho
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Bit harsh on Jericho there gaff i think Jericho could easily walk into a big feud on either brand in time for Wrestlemania
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I thought this, especially with the way Jericho responded to being mentioned by Punk -- very heelish and seemed to me to be a work. As far as I could see, he and Punk get on well outside of that, and they do tweet each other in a friendly manner.
It could have been legit though, and Punk saying 'Best in the World' may well irk Jericho who made the line his own on his last run (though I doubt he invented it...).
A useful feud for a face Punk though if it did happen. Jericho could be relied on to put Punk over too.
It could have been legit though, and Punk saying 'Best in the World' may well irk Jericho who made the line his own on his last run (though I doubt he invented it...).
A useful feud for a face Punk though if it did happen. Jericho could be relied on to put Punk over too.
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what a feud that would be!
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A Jericho return would give WWE another topliner , and i agree he could put Punk over even more .
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Punk vs. Jericho would be a great feud to watch, but what would they feud about?
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Jammy31 wrote:Punk vs. Jericho would be a great feud to watch, but what would they feud about?
Who is the best in the world? They both claim to be, would be a good starting point.
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Samo wrote:Jammy31 wrote:Punk vs. Jericho would be a great feud to watch, but what would they feud about?
Who is the best in the world? They both claim to be, would be a good starting point.
haha exactly. This would allow Punk to get over a lot more than he probably would in a feud with HHH. Although coming out on top against Y2J and then feuding with HHH leading into next years Wrestlemania would be great.
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Buzzman wrote:Samo wrote:Jammy31 wrote:Punk vs. Jericho would be a great feud to watch, but what would they feud about?
Who is the best in the world? They both claim to be, would be a good starting point.
haha exactly. This would allow Punk to get over a lot more than he probably would in a feud with HHH. Although coming out on top against Y2J and then feuding with HHH leading into next years Wrestlemania would be great.
I think anybody feuding with Triple H is more likely to make them into a star than with Jericho. As much as I like Chris Jericho, there is no way he's as big as a name as Triple H, Jericho is a stepping stone to the next level, Triple H is a mountain to climb.
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invincibleILeak (CL-6WF) wrote:Buzzman wrote:Samo wrote:Jammy31 wrote:Punk vs. Jericho would be a great feud to watch, but what would they feud about?
Who is the best in the world? They both claim to be, would be a good starting point.
haha exactly. This would allow Punk to get over a lot more than he probably would in a feud with HHH. Although coming out on top against Y2J and then feuding with HHH leading into next years Wrestlemania would be great.
I think anybody feuding with Triple H is more likely to make them into a star than with Jericho. As much as I like Chris Jericho, there is no way he's as big as a name as Triple H, Jericho is a stepping stone to the next level, Triple H is a mountain to climb.
I would say the exact opposite is true.
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Fine perhaps I should have made it more clear, going over Triple H will do a lot more for you than going over Chris Jericho.
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It would certainly, but going over HHH generally requires him to get his win back later, whether or not it's good for your character or business.
Even Sheamus, who is his friend (apparently) got smashed at WM after getting a win over him earlier on.
Even Sheamus, who is his friend (apparently) got smashed at WM after getting a win over him earlier on.
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sodhat wrote:It would certainly, but going over HHH generally requires him to get his win back later, whether or not it's good for your character or business.
Even Sheamus, who is his friend (apparently) got smashed at WM after getting a win over him earlier on.
But the feud with HHH put Sheamus over, it was only the booking after that feud that was bad because apparently the head booker on Raw didn't like Sheamus.
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invincibleILeak (CL-6WF) wrote:Fine perhaps I should have made it more clear, going over Triple H will do a lot more for you than going over Chris Jericho.
All depends really. You can go over without getting over and by the same token, not go over and get over.
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If anything triple h will bury punk. Where as jericho always puts over talent.
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HitmanOwl wrote:If anything triple h will bury punk. Where as jericho always puts over talent.
Batista, Umaga, HBK, Hogan, Shelton Benjamin, Eugene, Cena, Benoit, Sheamus, Legacy, Orton, The Rock, Undertaker.
Just a few of the people that have went over HHH. I hate it when people just think he buries all the time. Sure, he tries to get over in fueds he's in, but at the same time he'll get a great match out of you. Benjamin and Eugene are good examples of this.
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But you simply don't get the same effect from a feud with Jericho as you do with Triple H. I think some people on the board are letting their admiration of Jericho get in the way of the fact that a feud with Triple H is a much bigger feud than one with Jericho.
Triple H is one of the biggest names in wrestling ever, unfortunatly Jericho isn't on the same level.
Triple H is one of the biggest names in wrestling ever, unfortunatly Jericho isn't on the same level.
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I put Punk over Jericho BEFORE he goes over HHH. It would give more him credibility going into the fued with HHH.
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I actually think at the moment Punk is more over than Jericho anyway, and I think it would actually do more to harm him than help him, he needs to stay in the spotlight, which I think he will. Gaffer is right, Jericho simply isn't high profile enough for him.
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Well who do you think?
After cena,who can he feud with which is active and is 'high profile'?
After cena,who can he feud with which is active and is 'high profile'?
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Triple H....
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Oh,thought he wasn't active?
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I would be extremly surprised if HHH doesn't return to the ring for this storyline, in fact I'd be annoyed as there would be no other reason to get him involved.
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Why be COO and then still wrestle,wouldn't it defeat the object of getting him as the COO?
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Vince McMahon has been wrestling for years as the Chairman, it's hardly something new Owl. I think one of the main reasons that HHH has become the main authority is so that the WWE can have more believable confrontations between the authority and the wrestlers in the ring which you couldn't do with Vince anymore.
Triple H is still in very good shape and WWE knows it would be a huge waste not to use his star power.
Triple H is still in very good shape and WWE knows it would be a huge waste not to use his star power.
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You don't say?
Vinny mac didn't straight away start wrestling as soon as he became chairman. They established his role and Mr mcmahon was created. Also he wrestled sporadically over the years as a heel chairman. Funny that your comparing the 2 but other day I was comparing something from the attitude era and you sounded off. Make your mind up?
So by getting triple h over as the new coo he would book himself into a match with punk? A match that Punk would most probably lose.
Vinny mac didn't straight away start wrestling as soon as he became chairman. They established his role and Mr mcmahon was created. Also he wrestled sporadically over the years as a heel chairman. Funny that your comparing the 2 but other day I was comparing something from the attitude era and you sounded off. Make your mind up?
So by getting triple h over as the new coo he would book himself into a match with punk? A match that Punk would most probably lose.
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Unlike Vinny Mac Trips is already an established wrestler. For him to pull the boots on to sort out an issue wouldnt be that big a deal. First time Vinny Mac was in a match it was a big deal because we hadnt seen it before.
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HitmanOwl wrote:You don't say?
Vinny mac didn't straight away start wrestling as soon as he became chairman. They established his role and Mr mcmahon was created. Also he wrestled sporadically over the years as a heel chairman. Funny that your comparing the 2 but other day I was comparing something from the attitude era and you sounded off. Make your mind up?
So by getting triple h over as the new coo he would book himself into a match with punk? A match that Punk would most probably lose.
I have no idea what you're even trying to argue now.
It doesn't matter if he wrestles as soon as he became chairman, he was chairman when he wrestled which means there is litterally no reason why HHH can't wrestle now he is COO. Triple H can wrestle sporadically as the heel/face COO then....
1. I don't remember saying there is anything wrong with comparing things to the attitude era at all....
2. Vince McMahon has wrestled outside of the attitude era anyway so it's irrelevant.
Yes he can book himself into a match with Punk, and you don't know whether Punk would lose or not, and even if he did, it is still possible to look good coming out of a feud with a loss, which I'm not sure he'd have.
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Well it doesn't make sense.
Why wouldn't the coo stack the odds in his favour? He could have as many stipulations in the match as he wanted,he could have numerous allies with him,he could even have the strap on the line.
Why would he give punk a fair match,when he has all the power?
I would like to see this happen.Have triple h with his faction beat down on punk,then have colt cabana and kings of wrestling jump the railings to make the save.
Survivor series.
Punks team vs Triple h team.
What I think happening punk and trips are in cohoots.
Why wouldn't the coo stack the odds in his favour? He could have as many stipulations in the match as he wanted,he could have numerous allies with him,he could even have the strap on the line.
Why would he give punk a fair match,when he has all the power?
I would like to see this happen.Have triple h with his faction beat down on punk,then have colt cabana and kings of wrestling jump the railings to make the save.
Survivor series.
Punks team vs Triple h team.
What I think happening punk and trips are in cohoots.
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It's just the same way you can question every time Vince gets into the ring, yet that has happened quite a lot, especially in your precious attitude era.
The whole point is that Triple H can do what he likes, if this feud was to happen I am assuming it would be a heel HHH vs. Punk and by stacking the odds against Punk it means when Punk beats Triple H it means more and people get behind him. America loves an underdog and America loves people who "stick it to the man".
The whole point is that Triple H can do what he likes, if this feud was to happen I am assuming it would be a heel HHH vs. Punk and by stacking the odds against Punk it means when Punk beats Triple H it means more and people get behind him. America loves an underdog and America loves people who "stick it to the man".
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"especially in your precious attitude era"
Aye leave that out of it, this is between you and owl
Aye leave that out of it, this is between you and owl
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Lol. When wrestling was important and hot? When titles meant something,when matches had importance,when the tag division was booming,when things did suspend your disbeliefs,when managers was prevalent,when women's wrestling was enjoyable,when you had the Monday night wars,when it was unpredictable?when you could expect the unexpected
Ahhh them 'precious days'
its funny that many people are saying punks angle is a throw back to them days but you ate bashing that era.
Even the early nineties was quite amazing.
Ahhh them 'precious days'
its funny that many people are saying punks angle is a throw back to them days but you ate bashing that era.
Even the early nineties was quite amazing.
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I'm not bashing the era at all, you've gone from being a selective reader to completley making things up.
You're now arguing for me, if you think those days are so amazing, then you should have no problem with Triple H doing exactly what VKM did in those days and after.
Also, in the same way you claim I cannot comment on the attitude era because I'm only 17, you were born in 1988 which means, according to your own argument, you are cannot comment on the early 80s.
You're now arguing for me, if you think those days are so amazing, then you should have no problem with Triple H doing exactly what VKM did in those days and after.
Also, in the same way you claim I cannot comment on the attitude era because I'm only 17, you were born in 1988 which means, according to your own argument, you are cannot comment on the early 80s.
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Lol.
I wouldn't comment on the 80's I wouldn't know anything about it. I tend not to try and comment about something what wasn't in my time. It wouldn't be fair of me to do it.
Difference is about 10 or so years and Im much more of a smarter fan today,i think the attitude era was better than todays era. The punk storyline is a throw back to this.
Although we could better entering a new era,which I'm all for!
I wouldn't comment on the 80's I wouldn't know anything about it. I tend not to try and comment about something what wasn't in my time. It wouldn't be fair of me to do it.
Difference is about 10 or so years and Im much more of a smarter fan today,i think the attitude era was better than todays era. The punk storyline is a throw back to this.
Although we could better entering a new era,which I'm all for!
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Haha it was meant to say nineties,I already replied before I checked back on the earlier post.
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I didn't ever actually bash the attitude or any other era, I was just pointing out your hypocrisy that Triple H shouldn't get into the ring now he is the COO despite the fact in the era that you adore Vince would do the exact same thing.
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Difference is I was a kid back then,I didn't know any different.
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Leak it was a joke by the way,
Im quite enjoying this back and forth as well
Im quite enjoying this back and forth as well
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Yeah I know.
So looking back now Owl, you would say VKM getting into the ring was a bad move on the part of WWE?
I will repeat my earlier point, I think WWE have specifically made Triple H the on-screen power so that the authority can believably get into the ring. It would be a waste of a huge talent should WWE not use Triple H at all in the ring, he is in-shape, a big name in wrestling and now has the authority figure character to add a different dimension to his character.
So looking back now Owl, you would say VKM getting into the ring was a bad move on the part of WWE?
I will repeat my earlier point, I think WWE have specifically made Triple H the on-screen power so that the authority can believably get into the ring. It would be a waste of a huge talent should WWE not use Triple H at all in the ring, he is in-shape, a big name in wrestling and now has the authority figure character to add a different dimension to his character.
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Without meaning to detract attention from the confrontation going on above, I do think that Jericho would be a good stop-gap feud Punk. If the talk of Punk-HHH for Survivor Series is indeed true, then they will need something to occupy Punk, without him losing momentum, inbetween. And, good as it may be, I really can't see the Punk-Cena rivalry carrying on until November. What with the 'best in the world' link, IMO Jericho would be an ideal guy for Punk to feud with in the meantime.
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In that case, I hope he doesn't do a run in at Summerslam - I'd rather HHH provided the screwy finish there.
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I'd love to see an all face Tag match
Punk and Austin
VS
Cena and The Rock
May just be me tho....
Punk and Austin
VS
Cena and The Rock
May just be me tho....
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Jericho is trying to ride Punks coat tails, Punk beating Jericho would mean nothing, I'd rather he cand back on SD and put guys like Christian and Sheamus and Barrett over, guys who could benefit from a win over Chris Jericho
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That match was also on The Vault a couple weeks ago
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