Subtle H

"You, me, Undertaker, Shawn, we are the end of an era. You know it and I know it. The end of an era of a different breed. Smash mouth style that doesn't exist. We left it all in this ring every night. You, me, him, we'd all pay the ultimate sacrifice in this ring if we had to, without question".

With that statement, the master of twisting things to his own advantage may have sunk to an all-time low.

Overlooking Triple H’s trademark bigfooting of the entire roster (although the WWE title and the six men competing for it on Sunday had already been hugely diminished already by that clueless and utterly counter-productive "debate" segment), there can be little mistaking the hidden message at the end.

That dying is the ultimate symbol of loyalty to the industry and its fans.

That former WWE performers Curt Hennig and Davey Boy Smith and Eddie Guerrero and Rick Rude and Ray Traynor and Mike Awesome and Kerry Von Erich and Brian Pillman and Luna Vachon and Road Warrior Hawk and Andrew Martin and Hercules and Sherri Martel and Brian Adams and Crash Holly and Umaga and Chris Candido and Bam Bam Bigelow and Miss Elizabeth and Louie Spicolli and Lance Cade and Chris Benoit (actually, not him) and too many others were warriors in the truest form.

That those wrestlers, all under fifty years old, died for the industry.

That Owen Hart’s widow shouldn’t harbour bitterness towards WWE, because Owen would have been proud to die in a wrestling ring.

That death in wrestling is honourable.

There is no ambiguity about it; the ultimate sacrifice in question is death. According to Triple H, today’s wrestling doesn't have a smash mouth style. According to Triple H, today’s wrestlers don’t leave it all in the ring every night. And, according to Triple H, if you are not prepared to die for the wrestling industry you are inferior to those who did just that. If you don’t push yourself to a point where otherwise fit and strong human beings literally drop dead, you are selling yourself, the fans, and most importantly the company short.

Triple H is likely to be the most powerful man in the industry soon. Whilst he said these words in-character, years of evidence suggest that the character’s views usually reflect those of the man behind it. It appears therefore that he shows the same lack of compassion and humanity as the current most powerful man in the industry. How can he be trusted to ensure the wellness – to coin a phrase – of wrestlers if he considers it a weakness to not be prepared to die, to “pay the ultimate sacrifice”, for their profession?

Although he'd certainly prefer it if they would avoid doing so whilst under WWE contract.

Triple H is, in a corporate sense, the future of WWE. Sadly, it appears that the company policy of refusing to learn lessons or accept responsibility for wrestler deaths, and countless other broken lives, will not only continue, but that those "ultimate sacrifices" will cynically and heartlessly be spun and retold to the company’s advantage.

I think your reading a little bit to much into something HHH said in character.

I agree 100% with this article.

Also HHH's way of getting to the top is by putting his body on line night in night out. And i thought it was by running around after the most powerfull wrestling fratanity, and when that wasn't enough he marries the boss's daughter.

DDT wrote:I think your reading a little bit to much into something HHH said in character.

Most people will. That was the point of the article - to delve deeper into something that the majority of people might consider "all just part of the show".

Triple H rarely says anything in character without it reflecting his true thoughts.

I agree with what you're saying and the subtlety of what he said wasn't lost on me, shockingly though I found myself in agreement of a lot of what he said, he was talking through his character but I'm not so sure he was talking in character, I believe there was a lot of what he percieves to be truth in what he said and definitely how he said it.

I too agreed with what Triple H said. Whether it be in character or not, he usually talks sense.

It reminds me of something Ric Flair said a while ago about younger wrestlers not having enough passion for the industry in the same way the old guard did. This then lead to a fued between him and Carlito i believe.

I agree with DDT. I think you're looking far too far into this.

Personally, this comes across as a reason to rag on HHH some more. Thats how I interpret it.

I think that's exactly what it is Samo, doesn't make it any less valid though

Alot of people just have an agenda against HHH, because they don't think he's earnt the success he's had in wrestling. He probably did get in more main events than he would of done if he wasnt married to Stephanie. But I'm sure anyone else in the industry, in his position would have done the same thing.

DDT you say

Alot of people just have an agenda against HHH, because they don't think he's earnt the success he's had in wrestling.

Which would suggest you don't believe that to be true and he is truly deserving of his spot but then with the click of a coma go on to completely agree with it by saying this

He probably did get in more main events that he would of done if he wasn't married to Stephanie

Then just to end it you justify it by saying anyome would have done it

I love a bit of topical bi-polar posting

I personally dont care how he got so many main events, I believe he had all the tools to have made it regardless. His in ring work and promo work is too good for him not to have.

the-gaffer wrote:

DDT you say

Alot of people just have an agenda against HHH, because they don't think he's earnt the success he's had in wrestling.

Which would suggest you don't believe that to be true and he is truly deserving of his spot but then with the click of a coma go on to completely agree with it by saying this

He probably did get in more main events that he would of done if he wasn't married to Stephanie

Then just to end it you justify it by saying anyome would have done it

I love a bit of topical bi-polar posting

Are you stupid?

Where have I said that I dont believe it to be true? All I have said is I don't have an agenda against him for doing it. If any other wrestler was married to the boss's daughter then they to would have been pushed more.

It's the same in all walks of life, it's not what you know, it's who you know.

You should have said "are you Stupid stupid stupid", sayin' it once just ain't Orton kiddo

Haitch doing what Haitch does best - doing what's best for business.