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Post by nick_fury Thu 11 Aug 2011 - 16:28



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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:07

I think that is less of a problem than playing the same teams over and over again. The league will become staler, more quickly.

And you example it would be a freak of a random draw, and not be a frequently occuring problem.

I would also try and get 4 leagues, and have winners only in CL and 2nd in Europa.

Try and get it so that it is short, quick seasons.
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Post by ADMIN Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:09

nick_fury wrote:Ahhhh, Afro. your suggestion above. Thing is we could end up with 3 Cl teams in one league then and playing each other in league and euro cup.
Problem

Seed the teams?

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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:12

Here's my thinking of twelve teams, trying to steer clear of the cream of Europe:

Tottenham
Liverpool
Arsenal
Everton
Valencia
Villareal
Atletico
Sevilla
Roma
Lazio
PSG
Bayer Leverkusen

and if we need 4 more:
Porto
Dortmund
Lyon
Ajax
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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:14

Hero wrote:
nick_fury wrote:Ahhhh, Afro. your suggestion above. Thing is we could end up with 3 Cl teams in one league then and playing each other in league and euro cup.
Problem

Seed the teams?

Crossed my mind, but you would then always keep the big teams apart and restrict the chances of smaller teams. I think you've got to give the smaller teams a bigger chance to mix it up a bit, so I would have it as a completely random draw
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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:16

Try and stop it from becoming predictable.

The Furious League, it was predictable who would be at the top and who would be at the bottom. The only times that was shaken up was Blackburn, when they benefited from a handful of default 2-0 wins, and Everton, who got the massive benefit of two dodgy transfer dealings
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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:16

OK cool.

How will results be done??
Have one league vote on another?? EG:
Gameweek 1: League 1 votes on League 2. League 2 votes on League 3. League 3 votes on League 1.
Gameweek 2: League 1 votes on League 3. League 2 votes on League 1. League 3 votes on League 2.
and so on ???

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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:17

All managers vote on the games not in their league?
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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:20

Yeah can do Afro. Just vote on result + Scores + scorers. No explanation (as arguments start)

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Post by ADMIN Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:23

I thought the same on voting on matches not in the same league.

How complicated do we want this to be as I thought contract lengths and wages could be introduced. Having a max wage for all the teams would stop clubs getting overpowered compared to the others.

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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:27

Some leagues have tried it Hero, without much success. It is difficult to manage from my experience.

We have tried lots of things in the past. Remember the Stadium's idea Nick?
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Post by ADMIN Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:30

Other one I thought of as well as injuries why not yellow and red cards?

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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:31

And Nick, if you don't put explanations, that leads to more arguments, with managers questioning how they could possibly have been given a loss.

How about PM voting so it is private with an explanation and then results are published with a summary explanation of the result, so managers have something to work on (e.g your midfield was thought to be weak, your wingers took the FBs to pieces, Heskey just doesn't score)

Each of the league runners could be responsible for being sent, calculating and publishing the results from a different league
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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:32

The Stadiums Idea was siiiick. Just didnt work, too much monies coming in the league too.

Hero, trust me this is already a little complexed. My blueprint will be with you soon.

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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:39

Yeah. The profit generated from the extra seats versus the cost to build versus the time a season lasted just wouldn't fit together
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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 10:53

Blueprint sent.
Please read over and let me know. I would like to start Building asap.

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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:06

Hero - what's with the PM function? Why do my messages sometimes sit in my outbox for hours at a time and sometimes they go straight away?
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Post by FIFA Diva Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:23

I've read it Nick and it all looks safeage mate. Proper locked and loaded.
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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:27

BOOM thats what I want to hear Viva.

I just noticed something tho.
Top 2 from league go into Champions Cup
next 2 into Europa Cup

BUT with 4 teams it means everyone will be in a Euro comp.

I thought and based it on 6 teams to 2 teams miss out. Oooops

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Post by FIFA Diva Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:30

Then its just one team for Champions Cup and one team for Europa?

Why do we call it Champions Cup? Do you not have enough money to pay the full lisence for the real name?
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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:31

Because it's not a league, it's a cup presumably?

Nick - left an offer on your Everton page.
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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:41

Viva, one team means I get 3 teams in each cup comp lol.
Crap ive done this wrong as 2 teams would mean 6 team in a cup comp lol.
OK 1 team from each makes 3 teams, work it as a mini league so 3 matches, top 2 play in a final. BOOM done

Huh? Afro, whatever the offer ill accept. Im working on setting this up now and how no interest in wheeling and dealing to play one match today then not again.

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Post by ADMIN Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:42

BigFellasAfro wrote:Hero - what's with the PM function? Why do my messages sometimes sit in my outbox for hours at a time and sometimes they go straight away?

It's basically if the person who you're sending it to has read it or not. If it's in outbox then they haven't read it yet, if it's sent then they have.

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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:44

Ok. I change my offer to £10m then Ok! I'll confirm



Nick - just sent through a PM, which will solve this problem Champions cup problem, better than your solution too
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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:45

I see Hero.

Nick - does that mean you are not going to carry on in Furious League as well?

Please let us know, as Liam had a few people who were interested and we can fill the vacancy. Or Viva, what about that guy you found?
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Post by FIFA Diva Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:46

Hero I think you need to get rid of that, I don't want people to know if I've read thier message or not.

Also Hero I've left a message for you on Furious LEague.

That was confusing Nick, I think once its typed up on the pages it will be ok.

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Post by ADMIN Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:49

We need that function so we know that people have read their message to tell them they're about to get a ban from the site or they know they've been warned about something.

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Post by FIFA Diva Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:50

That Don dude?

I just done a quick search on him he just joined a few days ago. Is it someone dodgy. Hmmm
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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:50

Afro, I thought the furious league was Done. I wouldnt of started this if you were carrying on.
Who reason in starting this was so the manager can come over, add new manager and BOOM new league with the twist of being a gameworld.

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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:51

Course theres something Dodgy Viva. I looked at that the other day too. I was going to wait till he joined and league and watched for his responces to his "initiation questions" look for any traits etc.

Afro, spanner in the work eh

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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 11:52

Viva - What like Smartest under a new ID and email addy?

Is he interested in taking Everton, as I am taking it that Nick is done

Actually, we should have conversation on the Furious League page really Very Happy
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Post by Don Corleone187 Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 12:01

hello. Am i still allowed to join because i think you have me confused with someone else.
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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 12:03

nick_fury wrote:
Afro, spanner in the work eh

What do you mean Nick?
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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 12:11

nick_fury wrote:Afro, I thought the furious league was Done. I wouldnt of started this if you were carrying on.
Who reason in starting this was so the manager can come over, add new manager and BOOM new league with the twist of being a gameworld.

I thought we were carrying on with both in tandem, and the new league was just to freshen managers up and stop the bickering on Furious
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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 12:16

Nah afro. come on, you announced yday "good while it lasted" or whatever on the page. It was clear the league was shut.

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Post by Don Corleone187 Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 12:28

so am i allowed to join this fine establishment?
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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 12:29

Yes you can mate.

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Post by Don Corleone187 Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 12:33

i was reading the previous posts and it said i need to answer some initiation questions.
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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 12:41

dont worry. those will come if I set this up. Its up in the air now but just hand around

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Post by FIFA Diva Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 12:43

Don you will be asked questions but later.

So I see you are from Italy, thats good. Can you speak Italian?
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Post by Trebs Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 12:49

Lads OK

My views:
Don't think there should be wages.
Voting should be done via PM - explanations required. When results are posted it comes with an explanation of the result.
Draw shouldn't be seeded - four teams in each group is too small IMO, six would be a good number. First gets into CL, Second into Europa, bottom four have an FA Cup (or equivalent)

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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 12:51

Ah, Don.

benvenuto, come sta?
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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 12:55

Mighty, there might not be a league anyway.

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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 12:57

We can do both
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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 13:00

Im not risking it.

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Post by Don Corleone187 Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 13:05

i was born in italy and then i moved to the uk when i was 5 years old so my italian is very bad.
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Post by Trebs Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 13:07

Alright Nick, want me to do anything?

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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 13:09

Let's get this show on the road.

I think we have 12 definate managers. Do we want to try and find another 4/6, or get it moving.
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Post by nick_fury Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 13:17

Nah mighty. Nay Bother.

Afro, just leave it. Im not risking it for it to flop like all the other we tried before the Furious League because thats what will happen. Im telling you the amount of work that will need to be done in this league with matches every 3/4 days, TPs, injuries, laywers all for 3 seprate league and then an over all 2 euro comps, pre season Poopie like sponsors maybe boardroom etc.
Eventually people will start slacking here or in the Furious League and one of them will get neglected and fall apart.

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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 13:19

When Liam comes on, someone ask him about the other mates he thought would be interested.

Problem is 1 or 2 more is no good. Needs to 12, 16 or 18 manager IMO
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Post by Afro Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 13:22

Also, if we mix it up rather than having an English league, a Spanish league, an Italian league we aren't forced to find four from each country. we can find 12/16/18 teams across Europe, who are as closely matched as possible
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