tyson fury vs mike perez

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/exclusive-fury-vs-perez-works~

after martin rogan has seemingly refused to fight fury (which is a bit disapointing), it looks like irish based cuban mike "the rebel" perez could be set to face 6'9" tyson fury as his next opponent in belfast on 17th sept. this to me is a genuine 50/50 fight. having seen perez destroy his way to win prizefighter, i think he could be the next big thing in the heavyweight division. he will however have his work cut out for him with this next fight.

i see both men very capable of winning, tyson with his obvious height advantage (perez is about 5'11"/6') should stay behind the jab, play it safe and try and push perez into the later rounds, which is unfamiliar teritory for the cuban (the most he has been in 8 rounds). if he can get into a rhythm early on and work the jab and land a few bombs to test perez's chin then he is in with a shot.

however. perez is no stranger to a height disadvantage, in his last fight he blasted 6'8" tye fields out of there in 42 seconds, he has phenomenal power, 10 of his wins have come via 1st round KOs and is very tyson (mike) esqe in his style. fury's last fight with chisora was another big vs small heavyweight bout and in the first round or two chisora did look to be getting through. one thing im sure of is that is perez is given the chance to land big and get fury on the back foot, he will get the KO/TKO.

i think the bookies will have fury starting as favourite, however personally i put perez as the favourite, there is very little chance this fight will go the distance, i see a early KO for perez, 2nd or 3rd round. however is fury can survive the first half of the fight then i see it switching the other way, favouring fury for the late KO.

hats of to fury, didnt like him at first, but his performance and attitude towards the chisora fight won me over slightly and if he does take this fight then i he deserves further credit, as he could have taken alot easy opponents than this, especailly at this stage of his career.

also should have added it is going to be shown on channel 5

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/exclusive-fury-vs-perez-works

This could be dangerous for Fury, all credit to him if he takes this fight. I did like the look of Perez in Prizefighter, he's very rough around the edges but I can see him getting the early KO.

I think Perez will struggle if he doesnt win early.

He looked out of shape to me - not that Fury is a marathon man - but I suspect Perez maybe doesnt take his training too serious, and I also noticed he leaves himself very open.

Tough to call, Fury's chin looked good against Chisora, but he was easy to hit, and I aint sure how much genuine power Chisora has, but Ill go for Fury by stoppage 6 -10 rounds

Union Cane wrote:http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/exclusive-fury-vs-perez-works

the link was at the top of the page already

eddyfightfan wrote:also should have added it is going to be shown on channel 5

Good on Channel 5, we need support for boxing on TV. They just need to be awarded with decent viewing figures.

eddyfightfan wrote:

Union Cane wrote:http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/exclusive-fury-vs-perez-works

the link was at the top of the page already

Yes but it has a ~ on the end and doesn't work.

JDandfries wrote:I think Perez will struggle if he doesnt win early.

He looked out of shape to me - not that Fury is a marathon man - but I suspect Perez maybe doesnt take his training too serious, and I also noticed he leaves himself very open.

Tough to call, Fury's chin looked good against Chisora, but he was easy to hit, and I aint sure how much genuine power Chisora has, but Ill go for Fury by stoppage 6 -10 rounds

he did look at bit "cuddly" perez, but i wonder at only 5'11" if he lost a stone or so would he still make the limit for HW?

There is no limit for HW...

Very good fight and it could be a step too far for Fury at thie stage in his career. Fury for such a big man spends too much time and energy tyring to out fight his opponents where should be making better use of his attributes and advantages. His willingness to engage could play into Perez's hands early on, but I do agree if the fight has not been battered out of Tyson by the 6th round, then I would fancy a late stoppage win for Fury as Perez could punch himself out.

Union Cane wrote:

eddyfightfan wrote:

Union Cane wrote:http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/exclusive-fury-vs-perez-works

the link was at the top of the page already

Yes but it has a ~ on the end and doesn't work.

ahh, well done union- you passed the secret test

Union Cane wrote:There is no limit for HW...

not even a lower limit?

Nope, none of the weight classes have a lower limit.

Union Cane wrote:Nope, none of the weight classes have a lower limit.

thats 2 secret tests you've passed in the last 10 minutes. your on fire. fair enough, maybe he carrys the weight just to have a little extra power, its not like a danny williams/chisora kinda gut, just a few extra pounds. he does move around the ring well for a stocky guy.

Not a gimme for Fury by any stretch. Perez has a good amatuer predigree. He looked good in Prizefighter with speed and power.

he's shown he can handle the height difference as well, although not the best HW out there by a long shot tye fields is half decent 48(43)-4(4) his losses coming from monte barrett, michael grant and another guy over 10 years ago. he's also beat firtha, sprott and airich- and he was absolutly blown away by perez. he was like glue on him and didnt give him a second thinking time, forced the TKO without breaking a sweat.

Difficult fight for Fury.
You have to give him credit though, he's taking a steep learning curve and seems to be taking his career very seriously now.

yeah he does seem to have had a change of heart in recent weeks, since the chisora fight really. if he comes into this fight with the same amount of improvement he did for the chisora fight he will give any heavyweight a problem.

The consensus seems to be either Perez wins early or then the fight favours Fury. Fury himself has only boxed more than 8 rounds on three occasions so doesn't hold too much of an advantage. Prizefighter often deceives as the format encourages a higher pace of fight, a tactic I don't think Perez will employ if this bout happens. I've seen Perez fight on a couple of occasions and he can box when he needs to. It would be a close bout, but if it went to points I wouldn't be surprised to see Perez winning due to landing the cleaner work through-out.

I'm hoping this comes to fruition, as Perez needs to box far more regularly. There are also two other Cubans fighting out of Ireland and they look to be top notch. Hopefully getting them on the undercard will increase their exposure as they seem to be stagnating currently.

6oldenbhoy wrote:The consensus seems to be either Perez wins early or then the fight favours Fury. Fury himself has only boxed more than 8 rounds on three occasions so doesn't hold too much of an advantage. Prizefighter often deceives as the format encourages a higher pace of fight, a tactic I don't think Perez will employ if this bout happens. I've seen Perez fight on a couple of occasions and he can box when he needs to. It would be a close bout, but if it went to points I wouldn't be surprised to see Perez winning due to landing the cleaner work through-out.

I'm hoping this comes to fruition, as Perez needs to box far more regularly. There are also two other Cubans fighting out of Ireland and they look to be top notch. Hopefully getting them on the undercard will increase their exposure as they seem to be stagnating currently.

Alexi Acosta 14 - 0 (14) and Luis Garcia 11-0 (9) both a good prospects. Garcia made better work of Byron Mitchell the Bebuit did.

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:

6oldenbhoy wrote:The consensus seems to be either Perez wins early or then the fight favours Fury. Fury himself has only boxed more than 8 rounds on three occasions so doesn't hold too much of an advantage. Prizefighter often deceives as the format encourages a higher pace of fight, a tactic I don't think Perez will employ if this bout happens. I've seen Perez fight on a couple of occasions and he can box when he needs to. It would be a close bout, but if it went to points I wouldn't be surprised to see Perez winning due to landing the cleaner work through-out.

I'm hoping this comes to fruition, as Perez needs to box far more regularly. There are also two other Cubans fighting out of Ireland and they look to be top notch. Hopefully getting them on the undercard will increase their exposure as they seem to be stagnating currently.

Alexi Acosta 14 - 0 (14) and Luis Garcia 11-0 (9) both a good prospects. Garcia made better work of Byron Mitchell the Bebuit did.

Fancy these guys to move from Ireland pretty soon. They were training with Glenn McCrory a while back but I don't know what happened there. To further their careers I think a move is for the best, there simply aren't enough decent shows in Ireland.

A bit off topic but does anyone know if Guillermo Rigondeaux has anything lined up and if he doesn't then why not? He's a class act but needs to really get a shift on as he isn't a young fighter but is still a relative novice.

Agreed Golden, there was a real buzz about Gracia in particular when he came over and whilst he keeps winning he is still pretty much anonymous, have seen bits of him and it does seem he justifies the hype so would think someone needs to get involved and get him moving.

The granite chinne crusty will win this easily.

Is the fight confirmed lads or is this just a possibility at the moment? have the contracts been signed?

rowley wrote:Agreed Golden, there was a real buzz about Gracia in particular when he came over and whilst he keeps winning he is still pretty much anonymous, have seen bits of him and it does seem he justifies the hype so would think someone needs to get involved and get him moving.

I know, when an unbeaten and highly decorated amateur like Perez has to go down the prizefighter route at a young age, there has got to be something wrong. I would love all three to stay as bar Carl Frampton, a tenuous link to Matthew Macklin and the far-fetched hope that Andy Lee will eventually remember how to box again, there really isn't any other potential Irish World Champions.

Pedro147 wrote:Is the fight confirmed lads or is this just a possibility at the moment? have the contracts been signed?

It was signed on a piece of used bogroll out the back of Fury's Brother-in-Law/Uncles caravan

Just read on Boxingscene that Audley Harrison is "itching" to get at Tyson Fury. Does anybody see this as a possibility for Fury? It could be a good test for him and is a match that will give him better publicity. It could also make him a lot more popular should he manage to demolish Audley.

I think Audley might do a number on Fury.

Hold on before you reply..... there is a reason.

Fury doesnt really use his physical advantages, and rarely throws any big shots, Audley would probably easily out box him, and do so without really having a threat of being hit

Thats why I think it would be a good test for him. Despite his many flaws I think Harrison would be a sterner test than Chisora (mainly because he turned up in shocking condition). Think that Harrison knows that it's his last chance as well and that has motivated him a lot in the past.

i think harrison couldn't win a bet- he shamed himself last time out, and doesnt deserve another shot. apart from the publicty (which he doesnt need as either fight will be on channel 5 anyway) harrison offers nothing, he will get no credit if he beats him and if he loses then that would be devasting to his career. also, harrison couldnt motivate himself for a world title shot that seemed to be his last, so cant see why this would be different. perez offers the sterner test, also has the irish link, and the fight is in belfast, and is a real challenge. easy option= harrison, tough option= perez

eddyfightfan wrote:i think harrison couldn't win a bet- he shamed himself last time out, and doesnt deserve another shot.

I agree that he doesn't deserve a shot but if the fight and the fight with Perez is the much better option. Having said that if the fight with Perez doesn't materialise this could be seen as a viable option.Do not think that it would be a walk over for Fury though should they meet. Everyone thought that he was done and dusted after the loss to Rogan and then he went on to win prize fighter.

Don't get me wrong I cannot stand the thought of Harrison entering the ring again but I think he would be a test for Fury.

i just can't see it. fury's size and reach nullifys any hint of an advantage that he might have had, and i think fury will try and make it a bit of a war, which harrison will fall apart in. he would be a decent win on paper, win a few more fans etc but from a purely boxing view point he does nothing for fury. i think david price, richard towers, re-match chisora or even tom dallas are all better options. i have to admit though i really dont like harrison (not as a person just his attitude to boxing) and am very biased.

JDandfries wrote:I think Audley might do a number on Fury.

Hold on before you reply..... there is a reason.

Fury doesnt really use his physical advantages, and rarely throws any big shots, Audley would probably easily out box him, and do so without really having a threat of being hit

Too be honest, thats a pretty poor reason.

Audley is old (possibly shot), has fairly average abilitiy and a pitiful workrate.

Fury will be far too strong and busy for him.

Mid/late TKO or a very wide UD to Fury.

JDandfries wrote:I think Audley might do a number on Fury.

Hold on before you reply..... there is a reason.

Fury doesnt really use his physical advantages, and rarely throws any big shots, Audley would probably easily out box him, and do so without really having a threat of being hit

When was the last time Audley outboxed anyone remotely good.

Fury would demolish him.

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:

JDandfries wrote:I think Audley might do a number on Fury.

Hold on before you reply..... there is a reason.

Fury doesnt really use his physical advantages, and rarely throws any big shots, Audley would probably easily out box him, and do so without really having a threat of being hit

When was the last time Audley outboxed anyone remotely good.

Fury would demolish him.

Wasnt aware Fury was some sort of World level fighter, must have missed something.

point is, Fury doesnt box his height or his size, and he leaves himself very open - Dont get me wrong I aint talking Harrision up, far from it, but Fury is hardly great is he?

if the perez fight didnt come off i would rather see perez vs harrison than fury vs harrison. think harrisons size is his only advantage, and that isnt there against fury. plus i would love to see perez rip him to shreds.

Fury beat Chisora, Chisora beat Williams, Williams beat Tyson, Tyson beat Berbick, Berbick beat Ali, ergo, Fury is the greatest.

JDandfries wrote:

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:

JDandfries wrote:I think Audley might do a number on Fury.

Hold on before you reply..... there is a reason.

Fury doesnt really use his physical advantages, and rarely throws any big shots, Audley would probably easily out box him, and do so without really having a threat of being hit

When was the last time Audley outboxed anyone remotely good.

Fury would demolish him.

Wasnt aware Fury was some sort of World level fighter, must have missed something.



aparrently fury is working with manny steward, and they are working on his jab, so don't be suprised if he comes into his next fight with a marked improvement and uses his height to a lot better effect.

point is, Fury doesnt box his height or his size, and he leaves himself very open - Dont get me wrong I aint talking Harrision up, far from it, but Fury is hardly great is he?

fury has apparently been working with manny steward, and using the jab to better effect. so i wouldnt be suprised if fury comes in with a marked improvement (again) and uses his height to much better affect.

JDandfries wrote:

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:

JDandfries wrote:I think Audley might do a number on Fury.

Hold on before you reply..... there is a reason.

Fury doesnt really use his physical advantages, and rarely throws any big shots, Audley would probably easily out box him, and do so without really having a threat of being hit

When was the last time Audley outboxed anyone remotely good.

Fury would demolish him.

Wasnt aware Fury was some sort of World level fighter, must have missed something.

point is, Fury doesnt box his height or his size, and he leaves himself very open - Dont get me wrong I aint talking Harrision up, far from it, but Fury is hardly great is he?

The pont is that you don't have to be at world level to beat Audley. 4 of his 5 losses came at domestic level.

It doesnt really matter if Fury leaves himself open.....because Audley will hardly throw any punches.

He may well do, but as yet I aint seen it! But granted he has improved every fight

another thing. look what happened to boxing last time audley signed to fight on terrestrial, he nearly ruined it. i blame harrison for the lack of ITV boxing after they got their fingers burned with A farce's 10 fight deal.

eddyfightfan wrote:another thing. look what happened to boxing last time audley signed to fight on terrestrial, he nearly ruined it. i blame harrison for the lack of ITV boxing after they got their fingers burned with A farce's 10 fight deal.

That was the BBC wasn't it?

Union Cane wrote:

eddyfightfan wrote:another thing. look what happened to boxing last time audley signed to fight on terrestrial, he nearly ruined it. i blame harrison for the lack of ITV boxing after they got their fingers burned with A farce's 10 fight deal.

That was the BBC wasn't it?

Yep.

Still think this could be good exposure for Fury and if he is working with Manny now and destroys Harrison then it can only be a good thing and finally force him into the boxing abyss

trottb wrote:

Union Cane wrote:

eddyfightfan wrote:another thing. look what happened to boxing last time audley signed to fight on terrestrial, he nearly ruined it. i blame harrison for the lack of ITV boxing after they got their fingers burned with A farce's 10 fight deal.

That was the BBC wasn't it?

Yep.

Still think this could be good exposure for Fury and if he is working with Manny now and destroys Harrison then it can only be a good thing and finally force him into the boxing abyss

if getting a world title shot when you dont deserve it, not throwing a punch then getting stopped as predicted by your opponent in the 3rd, losing to a taxi driver, promising the world your the best thing since sliced bread every time you fight and failing doesnt make you quit, i doubt losing to fury will.


it was the BBC, i stand corrected. comments still hold true though

eddyfightfan wrote:

if getting a world title shot when you dont deserve it, not throwing a punch then getting stopped as predicted by your opponent in the 3rd, losing to a taxi driver, promising the world your the best thing since sliced bread every time you fight and failing doesnt make you quit, i doubt losing to fury will.

Good point!

http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=boxing/11/08/18/manual_142855.html&BID=543

perez isn't confirmed yet, but they are annoucing the opponent next week, and as it is in belfast you would expect them to go for perez if possible.

also junior witter will be fighting on the undercard, hope this gets shown on the undercard as well.

JDandfries wrote:

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:

JDandfries wrote:I think Audley might do a number on Fury.

Hold on before you reply..... there is a reason.

Fury doesnt really use his physical advantages, and rarely throws any big shots, Audley would probably easily out box him, and do so without really having a threat of being hit

When was the last time Audley outboxed anyone remotely good.

Fury would demolish him.

Wasnt aware Fury was some sort of World level fighter, must have missed something.

point is, Fury doesnt box his height or his size, and he leaves himself very open - Dont get me wrong I aint talking Harrision up, far from it, but Fury is hardly great is he?

Fury doesnt have to use his 'advantages' against him. Fury likes a scrap and knowning the Fraudly doesnt like getting punched, make him fight and he will stop him! Possibly in the 1st.

everytime i hear harrison is fighting someone i get the awful image in my head of him landing a lucky punch and beleiving he is the choosen one for another 5 years. he has had his chances over and over, let him retire or fight through the rankings, stop giving him fights he doesnt deserve. thats my opinion