tyson fury vs mike perez

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after martin rogan has seemingly refused to fight fury (which is a bit disapointing), it looks like irish based cuban mike "the rebel" perez could be set to face 6'9" tyson fury as his next opponent in belfast on 17th sept. this to me is a genuine 50/50 fight. having seen perez destroy his way to win prizefighter, i think he could be the next big thing in the heavyweight division. he will however have his work cut out for him with this next fight.

i see both men very capable of winning, tyson with his obvious height advantage (perez is about 5'11"/6') should stay behind the jab, play it safe and try and push perez into the later rounds, which is unfamiliar teritory for the cuban (the most he has been in 8 rounds). if he can get into a rhythm early on and work the jab and land a few bombs to test perez's chin then he is in with a shot.

however. perez is no stranger to a height disadvantage, in his last fight he blasted 6'8" tye fields out of there in 42 seconds, he has phenomenal power, 10 of his wins have come via 1st round KOs and is very tyson (mike) esqe in his style. fury's last fight with chisora was another big vs small heavyweight bout and in the first round or two chisora did look to be getting through. one thing im sure of is that is perez is given the chance to land big and get fury on the back foot, he will get the KO/TKO.

i think the bookies will have fury starting as favourite, however personally i put perez as the favourite, there is very little chance this fight will go the distance, i see a early KO for perez, 2nd or 3rd round. however is fury can survive the first half of the fight then i see it switching the other way, favouring fury for the late KO.

hats of to fury, didnt like him at first, but his performance and attitude towards the chisora fight won me over slightly and if he does take this fight then i he deserves further credit, as he could have taken alot easy opponents than this, especailly at this stage of his career.

mike perez will now face a unnamed opponent on the undercard of mccloskey/prescott. i don't really understand perez's reasoning behind this, as a fight with fury would be a much higher profile fight (i assume i dont actually know who his opponent is yet), but instead chose to fight 7 days earlier. fury is now looking at coleman barrett, who lost to harrison in prize fighter. the only reason i can think of is that he was scheduled to fight harrison in the autum and this fight is still going ahead- and perez wanted an easier night before then. still it is a massive waste of an oppertunity from a man who supposedly struggles to find fights.

Perez is confirmed on the under card of the Paul McCloskey V Breidis Prescott fight, main under card is Carl Frampton V Kiko Martinez.

Who Perez is fighting hasn't been announced, Tyson said at first he wanted to fight Rogan but Rogan couldn't make the fight as had another one planed, hope Tyson does fight Perez that is 3 good fights that night and Eamonn O'Kane is on the undercard as well.

All cards have an Irish fighter Perez is now Irish-Cuban, and Fury has represented both Ireland and England at amateur level.

I'll say McCloskey should beat Prescott, as prescott hasn't really done anything since beating Khan, and McCloskey was unluckly to have his fight stopped and has been boxong up through the ranks.

Frampton is Barry McGuigan's prodigy, has taken a big risk in fighting Martinez after only 10 fights, but he is highly rated and McGuigan wouldn't rush him, so I see Frampton winning this one

If it is Mike Perez v Tyson Fury, I see Perez winning by KO, I think this and then the K bro's next for him.

McCloskey unlucky? The fight was stopped as he was bleeding all over the place. And he'd lost every round and didn't look like turning it round. He quit like a stuck Irish pig.

Perez v Klitschko?

Are you sure? How do you see this fight going then?

dont think he is fighting fury, this card is a week before the fury bout, which is also in belfast. would be suprised if he fought twice in a week. if he does then he would go even further up in my estimations, and perez is already one of my top heavyweights, think he will go far.

Can I be the first one to say I don't think Perez is the next reincarnation of Tyson.

Scottrf wrote:Can I be the first one to say I don't think Perez is the next reincarnation of Tyson.

i really do rate him, i went to see him at prizefighter (which was my first live boxing match, so may explain the bias) and he was very very impressive. michael sprott and tye fields went to war, and it seemed to be the a decent verison of sprott, they were both landing and taking each others best shots and tye just took the decision. perez then went on to KO fields in 42 seconds. he was savage, saw the opening and just didnt stop. he stopped the french champion in the first round, had him down 3 times and he was toying with the other guy. he was head and shoulders above the competiton, which was a decent line up for prizefighter at the time.

eddyfightfan wrote:

Scottrf wrote:Can I be the first one to say I don't think Perez is the next reincarnation of Tyson.

i really do rate him, i went to see him at prizefighter (which was my first live boxing match, so may explain the bias) and he was very very impressive. michael sprott and tye fields went to war, and it seemed to be the a decent verison of sprott, they were both landing and taking each others best shots and tye just took the decision. perez then went on to KO fields in 42 seconds. he was savage, saw the opening and just didnt stop. he stopped the french champion in the first round, had him down 3 times and he was toying with the other guy. he was head and shoulders above the competiton, which was a decent line up for prizefighter at the time.

OK but this happens after every prizefighter and they never go anywhere.

His aggression and short stature worked for him, but he was quite sloppy offensively (have you rewatched it on TV? It often looks very different), and his opponents seemed unaccustomed to pressure and froze, especially Fields. I don't think he will be hard to hit either. There are a few levels between that and the K's as has already been spoken about on this thread.

eddyfightfan wrote:

Scottrf wrote:Can I be the first one to say I don't think Perez is the next reincarnation of Tyson.

i really do rate him, i went to see him at prizefighter (which was my first live boxing match, so may explain the bias) and he was very very impressive. michael sprott and tye fields went to war, and it seemed to be the a decent verison of sprott, they were both landing and taking each others best shots and tye just took the decision. perez then went on to KO fields in 42 seconds. he was savage, saw the opening and just didnt stop. he stopped the french champion in the first round, had him down 3 times and he was toying with the other guy. he was head and shoulders above the competiton, which was a decent line up for prizefighter at the time.

So you are admitting that the Fields that Perez stopped had just been in a war with Sprott. You're effectively saying that Sprott softened him up, and Perez finished him off, which doesn't count in Perez's favour for me. That French guy (Tony?) was hopeless, Perez effectively had a bye in the second round, so was fresh for the Fields fight. An easy night's work that added 3(2)-0-0 to his record, and if that other 'erbert is to believed sets him up to walk through Fury then have a shot at a K brother.

Chinny reckon.

[quote="Union Cane"]McCloskey unlucky? The fight was stopped as he was bleeding all over the place.

Bleeding all over the place, it was barely a scratch, and after it was towelled off it looked like nothing, even Oscar de la Hoya was embarrassed by it being stopped.

I'm not saying McCloskey would have won, the comment wass 'McCloskey was unluckly it was stopped' and he was unluckly it was stopped early by a very bad Doctors decision (any boxing fan would agree with this).

Also for my money if the fight had continued I think McCloskey would have run Khan close (and maybe sneaked a win in the later rounds), Khan was in the worst shape of his life, he didn't take the fight seriously was tiring and even came out of camp 2 weeks early to try and promote the fight, he wasn't focused on it at all. McCloskey was in far greater shape to last the later rounds.

A fully focused Khan would beat McCloskey, but the Khan on that night was not fully focused or fully fit.

I don't want to put a dampner on it but i can't see Perez going very far with his style. An improvement in the defense department could see a bit more longevity.

I'd agree it was a poor stoppage. How small the chance of McCloskey winning was doesn't change the face that the ref took that away from him, so he was unlucky.

yeah that is very true, and time will tell, but i still fancy him. he does need more fights, he is only 16-0 including 3 wins on prizefighter, and only boxed 40 rounds professionally, but i think he may make it. tye fields is no push over, he was 45(43)-3 and only been beat in the last 10 years by monte barrett and micheal grant. he has also beat sprott and firtha, so is at least decent.

im not saying he would be wlad or vitali now but give him another 7-8 fights against decent opposition and he should be a hugely better fighter. he does have good head movement as well, think people like tom dallas, mcdermmot, harrison should all be decent opponents for his next fight.

Union Crane do you follow boxing?
"and if that other 'erbert is to believed sets him up to walk through Fury then have a shot at a K brother. "

One of the K brothers has already talked about fighting Tyson, so does it not stand to reason that if Perez beats Tyson that the K brothers will look to him instead?

Does that make sense to you?

But it looks like Perez has another route planned, he knows he needs fights at Heaveyweight so it Fighting a nobody on this undercard, then it looks like he's moving on to Harrison, and then mayne Tyson, a good rotue for a young boxer working his way up.

Union Cane wrote:

eddyfightfan wrote:

Scottrf wrote:Can I be the first one to say I don't think Perez is the next reincarnation of Tyson.

i really do rate him, i went to see him at prizefighter (which was my first live boxing match, so may explain the bias) and he was very very impressive. michael sprott and tye fields went to war, and it seemed to be the a decent verison of sprott, they were both landing and taking each others best shots and tye just took the decision. perez then went on to KO fields in 42 seconds. he was savage, saw the opening and just didnt stop. he stopped the french champion in the first round, had him down 3 times and he was toying with the other guy. he was head and shoulders above the competiton, which was a decent line up for prizefighter at the time.

So you are admitting that the Fields that Perez stopped had just been in a war with Sprott. You're effectively saying that Sprott softened him up, and Perez finished him off, which doesn't count in Perez's favour for me. That French guy (Tony?) was hopeless, Perez effectively had a bye in the second round, so was fresh for the Fields fight. An easy night's work that added 3(2)-0-0 to his record, and if that other 'erbert is to believed sets him up to walk through Fury then have a shot at a K brother.

Chinny reckon.

a 3 round war, yes at the beginning of the night, tye then had a 1.14 second fight before another long rest. dont think that his conditioning was to blame, just perez caught him, then never let him recover.

Kingshu wrote:Union Crane

Enough said.

Union Cane wrote:

Kingshu wrote:Union Crane

Enough said.

So your arguement comes down to a typo!

Keep up the interesting, insightful and intellectual replies

You're entitled to your opinion mate, as I am entitled to mine.

In my opinion, you are talking out of your backside.

I think it best for all concerned if we stop there.

It now looks as though Dave Price has ruled himself out of this as well due to the lack of notification and that he is looking to be the mandatory challenger anyway after his fight with McDermott in November.

So with Perez, Rogan and Price all looking like they are out who are the potential candidates at such short notice? Could a fight with Harrison actually be on the cards?

I wouldn't object to Harrison vs Fury. With Harrison, it's the not knowing that bugs me. Either fight or retire, but don't be inactive. And Fury needs to keep active and keep fighting. He should concentrate on keeping the Lonsdale belt against credible opposition (stretching credible with Harrison, but hopefully you'll all give me that one!!)

bhb001 wrote:stretching credible with Harrison, but hopefully you'll all give me that one!!)

Just this once because you seem like a nice guy. Although I hate to think of the consequences if, as someone posted previously, he does land a lucky punch and win.

Do agree with you that Fury definitely needs to keep active and to keep gaining experience whilst he has this momentum and exposure.

i have a horrible feeling that harrison will be the only one left. its so disapointting that perez, rogan and price want nothing to do with fury. its the chance of a life time, wheres sam sexton or matt skelton? they would be better than harrison, surely there is a decent heavyweight out there that wants a shot at the british title? even a rematch with chisora would be better, or tom dallas, richard towers or even a third enstallment with big john.

Eddy saw Towers on the Brook undercard and he looks some way off yet, is a big unit and physically imposing but doesn't look to have too many ideas unless someone puts their chin in front of him. Whilst I am far from convinced with Fury yet think he is a little further along than Towers.

trottb wrote:Do agree with you that Fury definitely needs to keep active and to keep gaining experience whilst he has this momentum and exposure.

Absolutely. He is nowhere near world class yet and the only way to see if ha can make the leap is to keep active and kep testing himself

Harrison would not in all seriousness be that bad a choice. Say what you want about Audley, and most have, the guy has name recognition and can sell a fight so would imagine the fight would do half decent numbers because as little time as most of us have for Audley we do tend to tune in whatever our motivation for doing so.

Also he has said he wants one last fight to not go out as he did against Haye so there seems a likelihood he would take it.

wants one last fight to not go out as he did against Haye

he's going to have a lot of last fights if he wants to go out with a credable win

How about Kimbo Slice!! If that's how you spell his name

Perez will box Fury's ears off, as long as he puts in a few weeks hard training and comes into the ring in reasonable shape. If he does a Del Boy and comes to the fight looking like a pot bellied pig then Fury will have half a chance.

rowley wrote:Harrison would not in all seriousness be that bad a choice. Say what you want about Audley, and most have, the guy has name recognition and can sell a fight so would imagine the fight would do half decent numbers because as little time as most of us have for Audley we do tend to tune in whatever our motivation for doing so.

Also he has said he wants one last fight to not go out as he did against Haye so there seems a likelihood he would take it.

He has already stated in interviews that he has his sights on Fury. Would be the hardest test for Fury to date plus keep him in the limelight. As you said Rowley love him or hate him most people will tune in to see an Audley fight especially seeing as it is on channel 5.

dont think harrison would be fury's toughest test. think chisora and mccdermott are tougher opponents, chisora especially, but have to admit harrison would be a decent opponent at this late stage, the only problem been is i dont think he deserves the chance. if he decides that he doesnt want to throw a punch again, and go downs as soon as he's hit then its been a wasted effort for fury.

eddyfightfan wrote:dont think harrison would be fury's toughest test. think chisora and mccdermott are tougher opponents, chisora especially, but have to admit harrison would be a decent opponent at this late stage, the only problem been is i dont think he deserves the chance. if he decides that he doesnt want to throw a punch again, and go downs as soon as he's hit then its been a wasted effort for fury.

Ordinarily I'd agree with you Eddy but the condition in which Chisora turned up for the fight with Fury I don't think you can consider that a test.

he still tested him in the first few rounds. its a real shame chisora can in like he did, i actually thought he would have won. he still seemed to have a bit of something about him, but just was way to fat. i think his team said something about a hernia problem interuppting training, so hopefully when he gets that sorted he can come back stronger.

eddyfightfan wrote:he still tested him in the first few rounds. its a real shame chisora can in like he did, i actually thought he would have won. he still seemed to have a bit of something about him, but just was way to fat. i think his team said something about a hernia problem interuppting training, so hopefully when he gets that sorted he can come back stronger.

A hernia and McDonalds. Testing somebody for 2 rounds of a 12 round fight still doesn't really represent a real challenge though does it. For all the flak that Fury has had for turning up out of shape he had his head screwed on for that fight. Had Chisora trained properly and come in at closer to 240lbs it could have been a different story.

yeah fury does seem to have had a change of heart and re-focused his efforts. if chisora had that attitude he would be a real threat. shame really, but he will probably fade away now, there are a few contenders at british level he would need to beat before he proved himself, and he doesnt seem motivated enough. way to inactive as well.

Fury should fight Klitschko or Haye

Waingro wrote:Fury should fight Klitschko or Haye

He is well below the level of Haye let alone one of the Klitschkos...Plus he has already said that he isn't ready for a Klitschko

Klitschko was going to fight Chisora if he won so he should fight Fury instead who battered him. Klitschko pulled out of a fight with Chisora dont forget and Fury finished him. Haye against Fury would be a good fight and he is alot better than a clown like audley harrison

I think that even Harrison would beat Chisora in his current state.

If Fury were to fight a Klitschko or even Haye (assuming that he is not retiring which it is looking increasingly likely that he is) anytime soon he would get beaten convincingly. It is too soon for him and he needs more fights with fighters of a similar level. He is still young and it is too early, to fight them now would be career suicide.

trottb wrote:I think that even Harrison would beat Chisora in his current state.

If Fury were to fight a Klitschko or even Haye (assuming that he is not retiring which it is looking increasingly likely that he is) anytime soon he would get beaten convincingly. It is too soon for him and he needs more fights with fighters of a similar level. He is still young and it is too early, to fight them now would be career suicide.

I agree with the K bro's but Haye would be interesting. Wlad showed how to beat Haye and Fury has the reach and jab to do it not sure he would be able to be as disciplined as Wlad in regards to sticking to a game plan. Although he could just stand on his small toe and Haye would be useless.