Gatti Was Murdered (Documentary added)
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Gatti Was Murdered (Documentary added)
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7382189n&tag=contentBody;storyMediaBox
"Former WBC junior welterweight champion Arturo Gatti did not commit suicide, but was murdered, an independent team of criminal and medical experts said Wednesday in North Bergen, N.J. Gatti was found dead July 11, 2009, by his wife, Amanda Rodrigues Gatti, on the kitchen floor of a condominium the couple rented in Porto de Galinhas, Brazil. Police believed that only Rodrigues Gatti and the couple's 10-month-old son were in the apartment with Gatti
There was also no sign of forced entry into the apartment. Rodrigues Gatti was arrested shortly afterward, but later released when authorities determined Gatti had hung himself.
But after an independent 10-month investigation, a team of experts put together by Gatti's longtime friend and manager, Pat Lynch, claims local police failed to properly investigate Gatti's death.
The team's findings say that the purse strap allegedly used by Gatti to hang himself was neither long enough to wrap around his 18-inch neck, nor strong enough to support his body weight.
In addition, investigators claim police failed to test blood-stained towels that were left on the kitchen counter.
While the experts hint at Rodrigues Gatti possibly acting alone, their evidence suggests that she likely had an accomplice.
The experts point to a blunt force laceration at the back of Gatti's head to support their theory. They say that Gatti could not have caused that injury to himself. Instead, someone had to assault him.
"In my opinion, he was attacked by another person that resulted in a blunt force laceration to the back of his head and then he was strangled," forensic scientist Brent E. Turvey said. "He died in the location where he was [found]."
Finally, investigators claim money was the motivation that led to Gatti's death. They have no doubt that Rodrigues Gatti had the fighter murdered to collect more than $7 million from his estate.
"If she was [in the condo] alone, who committed the homicide?" investigator Paul J. Ciolino said. "He was murdered because he had some dough.
"It's the oldest motive in the world."
Gatti's final will leaves his estate to Rodrigues Gatti. That will is being challenged by Gatti's family members in a Montreal civil court.
"Amanda is an extreme person of interest in this case," Ciolino said. "The Brazilians, to my knowledge, are not looking at any other person.
"Amanda makes Anna Nicole Smith look like June Cleaver."
On Wednesday, Rodrigues Gatti told the Canadian Press she still believed her husband took his own life.
"I know it was [a suicide]. It would be easier for me to explain to myself that it wasn't a suicide, but I'm positive it was."
Gatti made a name for himself as an action-packed boxer. His trilogy with Micky Ward is regarded among the best in boxing history.
Besides the WBC junior welterweight title, Gatti also held the IBF super featherweight crown. He had a professional career record of 40-9.
Gatti, a Canadian who resided in Jersey City, N.J., during his professional boxing career, was 37 years old when he died.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/6941437/investigators-convinced-arturo-gatti-was-murdered
"Former WBC junior welterweight champion Arturo Gatti did not commit suicide, but was murdered, an independent team of criminal and medical experts said Wednesday in North Bergen, N.J. Gatti was found dead July 11, 2009, by his wife, Amanda Rodrigues Gatti, on the kitchen floor of a condominium the couple rented in Porto de Galinhas, Brazil. Police believed that only Rodrigues Gatti and the couple's 10-month-old son were in the apartment with Gatti
There was also no sign of forced entry into the apartment. Rodrigues Gatti was arrested shortly afterward, but later released when authorities determined Gatti had hung himself.
But after an independent 10-month investigation, a team of experts put together by Gatti's longtime friend and manager, Pat Lynch, claims local police failed to properly investigate Gatti's death.
The team's findings say that the purse strap allegedly used by Gatti to hang himself was neither long enough to wrap around his 18-inch neck, nor strong enough to support his body weight.
In addition, investigators claim police failed to test blood-stained towels that were left on the kitchen counter.
While the experts hint at Rodrigues Gatti possibly acting alone, their evidence suggests that she likely had an accomplice.
The experts point to a blunt force laceration at the back of Gatti's head to support their theory. They say that Gatti could not have caused that injury to himself. Instead, someone had to assault him.
"In my opinion, he was attacked by another person that resulted in a blunt force laceration to the back of his head and then he was strangled," forensic scientist Brent E. Turvey said. "He died in the location where he was [found]."
Finally, investigators claim money was the motivation that led to Gatti's death. They have no doubt that Rodrigues Gatti had the fighter murdered to collect more than $7 million from his estate.
"If she was [in the condo] alone, who committed the homicide?" investigator Paul J. Ciolino said. "He was murdered because he had some dough.
"It's the oldest motive in the world."
Gatti's final will leaves his estate to Rodrigues Gatti. That will is being challenged by Gatti's family members in a Montreal civil court.
"Amanda is an extreme person of interest in this case," Ciolino said. "The Brazilians, to my knowledge, are not looking at any other person.
"Amanda makes Anna Nicole Smith look like June Cleaver."
On Wednesday, Rodrigues Gatti told the Canadian Press she still believed her husband took his own life.
"I know it was [a suicide]. It would be easier for me to explain to myself that it wasn't a suicide, but I'm positive it was."
Gatti made a name for himself as an action-packed boxer. His trilogy with Micky Ward is regarded among the best in boxing history.
Besides the WBC junior welterweight title, Gatti also held the IBF super featherweight crown. He had a professional career record of 40-9.
Gatti, a Canadian who resided in Jersey City, N.J., during his professional boxing career, was 37 years old when he died.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/6941437/investigators-convinced-arturo-gatti-was-murdered
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Scottrf- Posts : 14359
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I remember they said an announcement would be made and this is what i expected, where exactly do they go from here though?
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Dunno, but I think the police invesigation is closed, so unless they can convince the they have new information, nowhere.The Galveston Giant wrote:I remember they said an announcement would be made and this is what i expected, where exactly do they go from here though?
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Usual p**s poor police work.....why complicate the issue when you can write it off as a suicide..
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Gotta wonder how an ex pro wasn't able to put up any sort of fight against some 110lb hottie.
Personally i think she must've had some help, think the detectives might need to call upon my investigative expertise.
Never thought he did do it himself, sad end to a glittering life either way though.
Personally i think she must've had some help, think the detectives might need to call upon my investigative expertise.
Never thought he did do it himself, sad end to a glittering life either way though.
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Usual p**s poor police work.....why complicate the issue when you can write it off as a suicide..
I guess they should have just left Shipman to continue what he was doing then, i mean why complicate it by spending years investigating and a shed load of money on a court case eh?
Another piece of tosh from Truss
Maybe, just maybe his family will want to see justice done as taking your own life leaves behind emotional turmoil for close family that "they could have done something" for him etc.
You're a disgrace.
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It was sarcasm you stupid dumbass..
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:It was sarcasm you stupid dumbass..
What an apt subject to act like a complete ****
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Mate do me a favor stick to stalking d4........more your level.
and keep off the booze.....
and keep off the booze.....
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My level is a fair bit above yours sunshine
Takes a special kind of scum to make jokey statements on the aforementioned subject.
Perhaps you should write to his family with your little joke, i'm sure they'll find it just as funny.
At least i can afford my own booze and make my own choices, go and ask your father in law for some more money and support would'ya?
Takes a special kind of scum to make jokey statements on the aforementioned subject.
Perhaps you should write to his family with your little joke, i'm sure they'll find it just as funny.
At least i can afford my own booze and make my own choices, go and ask your father in law for some more money and support would'ya?
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You going to comment on my Johnson thread..or is it outside of your intellectual comfort zone????
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I probably commented on the one you wrote on the subject before.
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How on earth did this thread descend into squabbles!!!
Thought Truss was just having a pop at poor police work than making light of Gatti's death.
Thought Truss was just having a pop at poor police work than making light of Gatti's death.
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He was. coxy misunderstood his post.Sir. badgerhands wrote:How on earth did this thread descend into squabbles!!!
Thought Truss was just having a pop at poor police work than making light of Gatti's death.
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Coxy, you misunderstood Truss there pal. He was signing off the same hymn sheet as you, to begin with..
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I hate hearing about this with Gatti, very sad.
His death always appeared extremely suspicious, especially when his wife apparently was in the same hotel room as him for hours without realising he was dead!
His death always appeared extremely suspicious, especially when his wife apparently was in the same hotel room as him for hours without realising he was dead!
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Wasn't the first time Gatti was murdered though was it??
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Huh?TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Wasn't the first time Gatti was murdered though was it??
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Floyd Mayweather...........ko6
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Scottrf wrote:Huh?TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Wasn't the first time Gatti was murdered though was it??
I believe Trus meant in the ring. Just before someone gets the wrong end of the stick....
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Still insenstive though, to say the least
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insensitive.........
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:insensitive.........
Lets not get held up on typos now shall we.
What money she'll reveal her accomplice(s) soon enough?
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If he was murdered........
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Who's June Cleaver?
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Perfect wifey stereotype from Leave it to Beaver.
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Scottrf wrote:Perfect wifey stereotype from Leave it to Beaver.
American cultural reference?
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