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Post by Guest Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:49 pm

Who are the top 10 test wicket keepers of all time?(purely based on keeping and not batting)

these are mine, in no particuarlar order, just numbered them anyway

1)Alan Knott
2)Brendon McCullum (dosent keep a lot in tests now, but a world class gloveman, when he does keep)
3)Adam Gilchrist
4)Jeffrey Dujon
5)Mark Boucher
6)Andy Flower
7)Ian Healy
8)Ridley Jacobs
9)Godfrey Evans
10)Kumar Sangakarra(same as mccullum)

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Post by GG Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:08 pm

Wouldn't have McCullum or Sangakkara there.

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Post by Liam_Main Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:13 pm

GG wrote:Wouldn't have McCullum or Sangakkara there.

Would have McCullum there but not Sanga
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Post by Liam_Main Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:13 pm

Jack Russell?
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Post by Hoggy_Bear Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:22 pm

Bob Taylor?
Deryck Murray?
Bruce French?
Andy Flower?

Not to mention the likes of Don Tallon, Bert Oldfield, George Duckworth, 'Tiger' Smith and Les Ames

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:25 pm

hoggy andy flower is in there!

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Post by ShankyCricket Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:26 pm

Liam_Main wrote:
GG wrote:Wouldn't have McCullum or Sangakkara there.

Would have McCullum there but not Sanga

McCullum really?I think there are about 5 keepers in NZ atm who are better gloveman than McCullum.

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Post by Liam_Main Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:26 pm

What about the others?
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Post by Hoggy_Bear Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:27 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:hoggy andy flower is in there!

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So he is thumbsup

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Post by Liam_Main Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:28 pm

shankythebiggestengfan wrote:
Liam_Main wrote:
GG wrote:Wouldn't have McCullum or Sangakkara there.

Would have McCullum there but not Sanga

McCullum really?I think there are about 5 keepers in NZ atm who are better gloveman than McCullum.


No chance, McCullum's still there best-keeper if only he wanted to take the gloves. One of the most athletic keepers of all-time.
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Post by ShankyCricket Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:29 pm

Liam_Main wrote:What about the others?

Gilly?Flower?Sanga?NOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYYYY in a top 10?

Foster,Read,Prasanna and a host of other keepers are better keepers than them.

And look at some of Hoggy's names.

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Post by Liam_Main Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:29 pm

Would be interested to hear the 5, I can only think of 2 keepers (excluding McCullum) that New Zealand use.
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Post by Liam_Main Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:30 pm

shankythebiggestengfan wrote:
Liam_Main wrote:What about the others?

Gilly?Flower?Sanga?NOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYYYY in a top 10?

Foster,Read,Prasanna and a host of other keepers are better keepers than them.

And look at some of Hoggy's names.


I wasn't talking to you.
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Post by GG Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:37 pm

Liam_Main wrote:Would be interested to hear the 5, I can only think of 2 keepers (excluding McCullum) that New Zealand use.

Hopkins, McGlashan, Young and Watling are all of a similar standard.

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Post by Liam_Main Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:39 pm

New Zealand don't use Watling as a keeper.
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Post by ShankyCricket Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:43 pm

Liam_Main wrote:New Zealand don't use Watling as a keeper.
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Post by jack.hertzberg Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:55 pm

Foster and Read are much better keepers than McCullum and Sangakarra and have both played Test Cricket.

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Post by Liam_Main Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:56 pm

I would have Foster in there ahead of Sanga.
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Post by GG Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:57 pm

Liam_Main wrote:New Zealand don't use Watling as a keeper.

They don't use McCullum as a keeper wither Wink

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:58 pm

im sorry but mccullum is easy new zealand's best keeper

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Post by Liam_Main Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:59 pm

GG wrote:
Liam_Main wrote:New Zealand don't use Watling as a keeper.

They don't use McCullum as a keeper wither Wink

They did though and that's what the threads about.
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Post by Guest Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:11 pm

Liam_Main wrote:
GG wrote:
Liam_Main wrote:New Zealand don't use Watling as a keeper.

They don't use McCullum as a keeper wither Wink

They did though and that's what the threads about.


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Post by Guest Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:29 pm

shankythebiggestengfan wrote:
Liam_Main wrote:What about the others?

Gilly?Flower?Sanga?NOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYYYY in a top 10?

Foster,Read,Prasanna and a host of other keepers are better keepers than them.

And look at some of Hoggy's names.


why the hell wouldnt u have gilly?

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Post by Hoggy_Bear Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:55 pm

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why the hell wouldnt u have gilly?[/quote]

Because Gilchrist is not one of the 10 best glovemen of all-time?

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Post by Liam_Main Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:07 pm

I agree, he's one of the best wicket-keeper batsman but not keepers.
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Post by msp83 Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:29 pm

Nayan Mongia was a superb wicket keeper, and was particularly good keeping to Anil Kumble.

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Post by ReallyReal Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:30 pm

Anyone who watches cricket at more than just at the 'odd game on SKY' level, should realise that Gilchrist was a brilliantly destructive batsman, one of the best of all time, who was given the gloves because it was felt that a great middle order batsman with gloves is better for the team than a great gloveman who's average at best with the willow.

He started his international career as a keeper who wouldn't get into ANY county team based purely on his abilities behind the wicket, he ended his career having become a passable international keeper, no better than that though.

The same can be said of quite a few so called great keepers though and many keepers, even international ones, shouldn't make any kind of list like this, even if it were a top 50 list, because they're NOT keepers of any note, just good batsmen given the job.

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Post by GG Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:47 pm

ReallyReal wrote:Anyone who watches cricket at more than just at the 'odd game on SKY' level, should realise that Gilchrist was a brilliantly destructive batsman, one of the best of all time, who was given the gloves because it was felt that a great middle order batsman with gloves is better for the team than a great gloveman who's average at best with the willow.

He started his international career as a keeper who wouldn't get into ANY county team based purely on his abilities behind the wicket, he ended his career having become a passable international keeper, no better than that though.

The same can be said of quite a few so called great keepers though and many keepers, even international ones, shouldn't make any kind of list like this, even if it were a top 50 list, because they're NOT keepers of any note, just good batsmen given the job.

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Post by msp83 Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:28 pm

Gilly was someone who redefined the role of a WK in a team, but at best he was a good keeper, and nothng more than that. not one to get into a top 50 list just for his glove work alone. Sangakkara, and even Brendan McCullum, similar.
Prasanna Jayawardene, Chris Read, Nayan Mongia, are some of the recent keepers who are better than some of the people in the list.

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Post by Stella Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:29 am

Ridley Jacobs?

England alone have probably produced 20 keepers better than him.

There are also keepers like Ian Smith, Warren Lees, Wasim Bari and many more.

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Post by Leff Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:26 pm

New Zealand had several wicket-keepers who were more competent glovemen than McCullum. These include Ian Smith, Parore, and Wadsworth.

Other great keepers
Johnny Waite (SA)
Rashid Latif (PK)
Jackie Hendricks (WI)
S Kirmani (Ind)
Bob Taylor (Eng)

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Post by Taffineastbourne Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:49 pm

Knotty and Jack Russell were the best keepers that I have seen.Knotty standing up to Underwood's pretty sharpish spin on a turning wicket was a wonder to behold.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:47 pm

Leff wrote:New Zealand had several wicket-keepers who were more competent glovemen than McCullum. These include Ian Smith, Parore, and Wadsworth.

+1. Parore was probably the best gloveman around world cricket in the late 90s, ditto Smith in the mid-late 80s.
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Post by Stella Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:44 pm

Syed Kirmani?
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Post by Mike Selig Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:25 pm

To be fair, I think Gillchrist became more than a passable international keeper. He was a good keeper, who took some great catches, but certainly nowhere near a top 10. Don Tallon and Bert Oldfield were undoubtedly better say, as were Bob Taylor and Jack Russell. Prassana is a better keeper than Sangakara but not sure he'd make a top 10. Let me have a go:

Oldfier
Tallon
Healy
Knott
Taylor
Evans
Dujon
Kirmani
The south african guy from the late 60s (the name escapes me)
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Post by Leff Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:11 pm

Stella wrote:Syed Kirmani?

Yes, he was a very competent keeper, especially with stumpings. You had to be very smart to keep wickets to the spin quarter, especially to Chandra, who once stated that he did not quite know which type of delivery would come out.

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Post by Liam_Main Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:14 pm

Mike Selig wrote:To be fair, I think Gillchrist became more than a passable international keeper. He was a good keeper, who took some great catches, but certainly nowhere near a top 10. Don Tallon and Bert Oldfield were undoubtedly better say, as were Bob Taylor and Jack Russell. Prassana is a better keeper than Sangakara but not sure he'd make a top 10. Let me have a go:

Oldfier
Tallon
Healy
Knott
Taylor
Evans
Dujon
Kirmani
The south african guy from the late 60s (the name escapes me)
Farooq Engineer

Denis Lindsay?
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Post by Leff Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:42 pm

Lindsay kept wickets at a time SA dominated. However, Waite was a better keeper.

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Post by Mike Selig Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:05 pm

I shall take Leff and Liam's word. My mind has gone completely blank. Wasim Bari and Ian Smith are excellent shouts.

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