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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:00 am

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Well, I expect to be largely on my own this morning, but this is the day I expect the England Juggernaut to finally start rolling.

I want to see cold-eyed discipline, good ball protection fron the forwards, good cohesion between forwards and backs, some smart rugby and plenty of tries using differing styles of final execution.

It may "only be Romania" but if all or any of these don't show today - it''ll be a QF exit I reckon.
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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:05 am

Croft is holding up those tackles well. Cueto might have scored his last try today

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:06 am

Davie wrote:I thought the commentator just called one of the Romanian players "Kerry Katona" laughing

surely she plays for iceland?

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:07 am

We've playing like Wales (in 2007) mad

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Post by Cowshot Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:07 am

Finally a bit of sense from Thommo and Flood clears beautifully.

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Post by EnglishReign Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:08 am

Tuilagi is a line-breaking BEAST!

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:08 am

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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:09 am

biltongbek wrote:
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biltongbek wrote:England must slow down now, i predicted england by 54, and they are starting to irritate me now. boxing

Went 63 myself - think we've both bombed.


Yeah very spiteful, these English. Rolling Eyes

Think 58-59 Biltong then we're both in. Hug
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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:10 am

That's more like it Romania!!
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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:10 am

Ahhhhh nuts!
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Post by Biltong Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:12 am

That leaves us only another 16 points, we're cutting it a bit thin here, mate.

Ah, hopefully romania can actually win a line out here.
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Post by Davie Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:13 am

The worst thing about the Sportguru competition is when you start cheering on the opposition!

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Post by Biltong Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:13 am

Nah. 🤦
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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:14 am

Davie wrote:The worst thing about the Sportguru competition is when you start cheering on the opposition!

Ain't it just Davie Very Happy

Come on youuuuuuu Oaks! Whistle
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Post by Cumbrian Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:15 am

Great pick up, Phil? Haskell's control at the back of the scrum has been terrible.
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:18 am

any shock the scrum is a mess after mears comes on?

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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:19 am

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:any shock the scrum is a mess after mears comes on?

Oi, back off the boy Wheeler - he's only 14. laughing
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Post by Cumbrian Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:20 am

PJHolybloke wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:any shock the scrum is a mess after mears comes on?

Oi, back off the boy Wheeler - he's only 14. laughing

14 inches tall? Or 14lb heavy? Very Happy
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Post by Taylorman Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:23 am

Tuilagi. Well done.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:23 am

looks like coles had a word anyway ...18 backs tries in a row now

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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:23 am

Tuilagi has a swipe at the other England winger there....
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Post by lostinwales Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:24 am

Didnt they steel Mears from some bar they visited?

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Post by faraway Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:25 am

so England switched the balls when Jonny went for conversions...the commentators here say England was advised not to do it but they did it anyway....it's not England of there isn't any controversy Very Happy

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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:27 am

Couldn't hit a cow's a$5e with a banjo.
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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:28 am

faraway wrote:so England switched the balls when Jonny went for conversions...the commentators here say England was advised not to do it but they did it anyway....it's not England of there isn't any controversy Very Happy

Again please? In English?
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Post by Scottrf Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:30 am

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Post by lostinwales Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:30 am

Well thats gone and wrecked the back's scoring record - damn forwards hogging the ball.


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Post by Biltong Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:32 am

lostinwales wrote:Well thats gone and wrecked the back's scoring record - damn forwards hogging the ball.

laughing
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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:34 am

Looks like we're cooked Biltong. Crying or Very sad
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Post by Cumbrian Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:35 am

WTF? Surely had to be advantage over?
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Post by Biltong Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:35 am

you might still be in it, but I am well and truly busted. randy
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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:37 am

biltongbek wrote:you might still be in it, but I am well and truly busted. randy

laughing FAF.
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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:40 am

I love Mike Tindall!
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Post by Cowshot Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:41 am

Don't quite know how to rate this English performance. Good but against Romania it should be. Lots of changes and we've changed styles a bit but kept going. So yeah, fairly happy.

Has Cueto booked a 1st XV place? Not yet.

chuckle. Dear old Tinds. Still got hands of stone.


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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:44 am

That'll do pig, that'll do.
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Post by Biltong Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:44 am

PJ you lucky so and so. Cry
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:46 am

PJHolybloke wrote:I love Mike Tindall!

You arent blonde are you?

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Post by Cymroglan Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:48 am

They are just old friends

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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:52 am

Well, England did what was expected and hockeyed The Oaks of Romania, plenty of tries with the result never in doubt.

A definite improvement, but they still need to improve at the breakdown, the ball protection element particularly, they will struggle there against Scotland and should they ever come up against SA or NZ I shudder to think.

Is it unfair to pick up on the sloppy passing as it was "only Romania"? I don't think so, if anything it should be better due to lack of pressure.

Still too many penalties 1st half.

Plenty of positives though, some sharp back moves, forwards - backs cohesion much tighter and quite fluid at times. Plenty of variety in the try scoring, Flood and Wilkinson both looking handy, Youngs starting to look the player he was 4 out of 5 6N games...

On the whole, B grade or 7/10 for overall performance.

Better against Scotland please.
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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:53 am

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
PJHolybloke wrote:I love Mike Tindall!

You arent blonde are you?

Unless you count grey, I'd have to say no. Very Happy
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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:55 am

biltongbek wrote:PJ you lucky so and so. Cry

Nevermind me old mucka, there's plenty more to come. Have to admit I'd well under-cooked that score, just have to be grateful Johnno made his changes when he did thereby disrupting England's momentum at exactly the right time - for me. I'll take lucky all day long boss. OK
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Post by BATH_BTGOG Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:00 am

Bring on the Scots.
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Post by faraway Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:02 am

PJHolybloke wrote:
faraway wrote:so England switched the balls when Jonny went for conversions...the commentators here say England was advised not to do it but they did it anyway....it's not England of there isn't any controversy Very Happy

Again please? In English?

apparently when England scored the tries in the first half some of the conversions, at least one of them, wasn't done with the same ball the try was scored with. i'm not sure whether that's against the laws or not but the commentators here were focusing on it...i'll let you know if they discuss it further

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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:06 am

Gotcha faraway, thanks for the clarification. OK

One for the refs I reckon but my feeling is that might be a bit naughty, unless there was something obviously wrong with the try ball and the ref has cleared it first....?
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Post by faraway Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:20 am

PJHolybloke wrote:Gotcha faraway, thanks for the clarification. OK

One for the refs I reckon but my feeling is that might be a bit naughty, unless there was something obviously wrong with the try ball and the ref has cleared it first....?

During the first half, they said the balls were numbered and Jonny might have preferred one of the balls, they did show a footage of the England's waterboy kicking the try ball away so they can use a specific ball. they also said that, before that incident and i think after the 2nd conversion attempt, the waterboy was going around asking for the ball's number Jonny attempted to score with.

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Post by robbo277 Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:39 am

Some signs that the performance is coming together, a definite improvement from the last couple of outings. If you'd offered England 14 points from their first 3 games I think we would have taken that at the start of the competition.

The World Cup starts now for us, 4 games, 4 wins and we win the World Cup, forget about everything else.

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Post by Guest Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:53 am

great performance from england this mornng Smile

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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:56 am

robbo277 wrote:Some signs that the performance is coming together, a definite improvement from the last couple of outings. If you'd offered England 14 points from their first 3 games I think we would have taken that at the start of the competition.

The World Cup starts now for us, 4 games, 4 wins and we win the World Cup, forget about everything else.


That's the feckin spirit Robbo, damn fine jib you got yourself cut there. Yahoo Hug
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:22 am

That was a much improved performance. Good stuff.

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Post by EnglishReign Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:36 am

17 tries for England this tournament, and Ashton sitting pretty as the current top try scorer with 5! Yahoo

Also, 4 tries in 5 games for Tuilagi. He's looking dangerous.

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Post by englandglory4ever Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:21 pm

England played with a lot more savvy this time out. They looked to pass more and the forwards looked to find space rather than crash in to the nearest opponent. Lineout was very good and scrum OK against a big Romanian outfit.

Penalty count was a huge improvement but still too many unnecessary silly ones for my liking.

Another huge plus was the clinical way England dealt with the ball when in their own 22 making it very difficult for the Oaks to get any attacking momentum.

Overall, very pleased but there is still more to be done. One thing I am certain of and that is England would have beaten France easily today having watched both games. In fact France were awful.

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