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Post by Volcanicash Sat 05 Nov 2011, 12:40 pm

Whats everyones thoughts on how this fight will go!! I have a sneaky feeling Bute won't be able to handle the road warriors pressure, so i'm going for the underdog. You can get odds of Johnson stopping bute in rounds 7-12 at 16/1. Great price for a decent possibility!!

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Post by Jukebox Timebomb Sat 05 Nov 2011, 1:59 pm

Gonna be a good fight IMO.

Bute struggled with Andrade's pressure, interesting to see how he copes with the non-stop forward pressing of Johnson.

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Post by Knowsit17 Sat 05 Nov 2011, 3:14 pm

Bute could theoretically cause a shock and KO Johnson but I'm playing it safe and vouching for Bute by decision. Johnson could well make him uncomfortable for periods of the fight and I feel will be too wily and experienced to get stopped but in the end Bute will have too much youth and energy.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sat 05 Nov 2011, 5:09 pm

yeah i went for a bute decision. just think he will have a bit too much for old glenn... but in truth i dont know whether butes chin would have been tested at such a level (johnsons dangerous right) so a shock knockout could be on the cards.

bute isnt the greatest with his feet in my opinion and come forward fighters may have better success than most...

possibility of johnson taking one too many near the end as well however... i would be utterly stunned if bute took him out early... always a question i suppose of johnson may just be too far gone though, there will be a fight where father time truly catches up with him... but get a feeling not tonight.

bute to outclass him and take it by a wide decision but wouldnt be shocked if there was a couple of scares along the way...

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Post by paperbag_puncher Sat 05 Nov 2011, 7:52 pm

Are you sure you've all your bases covered there Alex?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:00 am

Haha, yeah think I've got it sussed... Gave what I reckon could be the possible talking points Smile

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Post by Steffan Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:02 am

Bute will win this. Johnson looked shot in his last few fights

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:03 am

How on earth did he look shot against Froch? What fight were you watching? The word shot is thrown around so much nowadays it's a joke...

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:04 am

Who is that clown sitting beside Clinton Woods?

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Post by Steffan Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:04 am

The fact he lost says it all. A prime Johnson would of wiped the floor with Froch

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:05 am

Steffan, I'm guessing you don't like Froch?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:06 am

Johnson smacked the grease off of Allan Greene the fight before, and it was a close tough contest, he's PAST IT not shot, ridiculous.

And 6oldenboy he's a writer or editor or something for Boxing Monthly.

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Post by Steffan Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:07 am

6oldenbhoy wrote:Steffan, I'm guessing you don't like Froch?

Yeah guessed right. And with good reason

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:08 am

Last 4 fights he knocked out Yusaf Mack, got beat in a real close contest against Tarvoris Cloud, knocked out Allan Green then lost a close fight against Froch, how on earth is he shot?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:08 am

He's a Calzaghe fanboy...

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Post by Steffan Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:09 am

Ok well shot was a bit OTT maybe. But the fact he lost to an average fighter in Froch says how far he has come from his best

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Post by Steffan Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:10 am

Carl Froch accused us of smashing up his car

I mean anyone could of been doing it

But he accused us

I guess his hatred for Calzaghe extends as far as the people of Wales as well

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:10 am

Froch - average, get out of it deary me, he's a world class fighter Steffan just face it, he isn't as good as Calzaghe but he isn't average.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:11 am

Steffan wrote:Carl Froch accused us of smashing up his car

I mean anyone could of been doing it

But he accused us

I guess his hatred for Calzaghe extends as far as the people of Wales as well

They're actually good friends now Steffany.

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:11 am

But as Alex says, he's on the slide, but not shot. The MD against Froch was a poor decision, it was clearly Froch's fight. Why do you dislike him? Is it the whole Calzaghe Saga?

Alex thank goodness I don't buy Boxing Monthly. That chap is is as rude and Vulgar as they come.

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Post by Steffan Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:12 am

He accused us of smashing up his car

What a tool

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:13 am

Steffan, did you smash it?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:13 am

Who's "Us" And how does THAT make him an average boxer?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:18 am

are you watching this undercard OH MY GOD what an opening round!!
Nailed him loads of times, then completely rocked himself, quality round.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:19 am

WOW What a start in the second jesus

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:19 am

Oh my whata knockout!!! WOW

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Post by Dass Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:29 am

Cote was impressive but he left himself wide open in the first and was almost on the canvas for it. Power looks there and some interesting fights to be made for Cote in the future. Not completely convinced by him though.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:30 am

Not yet no, but he looked exciting, which is most important for me with some of these lads.

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Post by Dass Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:33 am

Not seen enough of his boxing skills yet, certainly seems to have some power but plenty of boxers have looked to have massive power to only be found to have decent at the top level. Certainly one to keep an eye on though.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:34 am

I like Froch, who you think will win this fight anyway deary me

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:35 am

Dass wrote:Not seen enough of his boxing skills yet, certainly seems to have some power but plenty of boxers have looked to have massive power to only be found to have decent at the top level. Certainly one to keep an eye on though.

Seen him a few times, last time I saw him was on the Bute/Mendy undercard looked quite good then as well, bit frustrating that night, but showed good skills at times, looks like he can definately bang as well.

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Post by Dass Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:37 am

I think Bute should win on Pts but would love to see Johnson win even though it would go against me in Unions League. I'm not sure Bute has enough of a punch to take Johnson outta there.

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Post by Steffan Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:37 am

Personally I think Bute could well be the best SMW in the world. Once Ward disposes of Froch I would love them pair fight it out to see who is the best. Admittedly I was a bit OTT calling Johnson shot but I still dont think he has enough in the tank to win this one

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:38 am

Steffan wrote:Anyway il get back on topic and have promised the mods not to mention nationality too much but you cant blame 'someone from Wales' for hating him especially when he also called Joe a "Fat Welshman" as well

Froch is a vile person and that the last im gonna say on the matter

Agree mate, he should have called him a 'fat Englishman'...


Only Joking.

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Post by Dass Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:39 am

Who do you put Cote in with next though?.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:42 am

Difficult the likes of Kotelnik may be too much for him, perhaps Judah would be ok as he's very much on the slide? not sure.

Victor Cayo? Ashley Theophane? Ajose Olusegun?

A fair few decent fights for him at this point.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:44 am

Maybe even McCLoskey?

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Post by Dass Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:49 am

I can't decide who I'd put him in with at the moment, he needs the step up but not sure how far or who would give him the right test at this stage. Almost a case of to many fights for him. Smile

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Post by TopHat24/7 Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:51 am

Steffan wrote:Anyway il get back on topic and have promised the mods not to mention nationality too much but you cant blame 'someone from Wales' for hating him especially when he also called Joe a "Fat Welshman" as well

Froch is a vile person and that the last im gonna say on the matter

Your opinions are hardly unbiased though are they Steff? Just because he called out your tomato-can slapping countryman.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:53 am

Just leave it TopHat he'll never see it.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:53 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:Difficult the likes of Kotelnik may be too much for him, perhaps Judah would be ok as he's very much on the slide? not sure.

Victor Cayo? Ashley Theophane? Ajose Olusegun?

A fair few decent fights for him at this point.

Cayo or/then Kotelnik would be good shouts for him. How about Devon "it burns, it burns" Alexander?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:55 am

Dass wrote:I can't decide who I'd put him in with at the moment, he needs the step up but not sure how far or who would give him the right test at this stage. Almost a case of to many fights for him. Smile


Yeah it's difficult right now, they don't need to rush him right now either plenty of learning fights there for him as he's rising, would slow him down and give him 2 years of learning fights against good fighters then really step him up to the best in the division.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:56 am

Anyone else finding a) this Boxnation coverage cack? and b) these Bute salad-tossing commentators/pundits tedious??

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 1:57 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:Difficult the likes of Kotelnik may be too much for him, perhaps Judah would be ok as he's very much on the slide? not sure.

Victor Cayo? Ashley Theophane? Ajose Olusegun?

A fair few decent fights for him at this point.

Cayo or/then Kotelnik would be good shouts for him. How about Devon "it burns, it burns" Alexander?

Maybe might just be a bit too quick for him, the likes of Alexander have been in with a lot of top ten ranked fighters and above like Urango and Bradley and Kotelnik may be just too far for him right now.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:01 am

27 yrs old n 18 fights in, he needs to start stepping up and, if he wants any respect, starting fighting outside of Canada otherwise he'll end up another over-protected bum.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:02 am

Hm Bute so awkward and don't think Johnson has the keys to unlock this one... Bute is picking him off a bit here. Johnsons gotta pick up the pace but do think that if he does he's gonna get clipped, he's going to be open to a bute uppercut.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:03 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:27 yrs old n 18 fights in, he needs to start stepping up and, if he wants any respect, starting fighting outside of Canada otherwise he'll end up another over-protected bum.

Nah of course he has to step up but think the likes of Alexander might be one step too far after a Cayo fight, Teron was a step up in comparison and he blasted him away so think he's there to move up again but can move along slow, no need to rush him.

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Post by Steffan Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:08 am

Bute is boxing well. Johnson cant get near him

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:11 am

Yeah excellent boxing from Bute, Johnson better round the last. Very awkward fighter is Bute so many looks, Johnson really giving this a go as we knew he would.

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Post by Steffan Sun 06 Nov 2011, 2:18 am

Brilliant round from Bute. Had a Calzage Lacy look to it

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