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Post by Scottrf Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:20 pm

http://www.thebestfighters.com/the_best_boxers.htm

Top 10 Heavyweight Boxers of all time
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Mike Tyson
3. Lennox Lewis
4. George Foreman
5. Joe Frazier
6. Wladimir Klitschko
7. Larry Holmes
8. Riddick Bowe
9. Vitali Klitschko
10. Chris Byrd

Top 10 Cruiserweight Boxers of all time
1. Evander Holyfield
2. James Toney
3. Carlos De Leon
4. Víctor Emilio Ramírez
5. Johnny Nelson
6. Marvin Camel
7. Juan Carlos Gomez
8. Al Cole
9. Jean Marc Mormeck
10. David Haye

Top 10 Light Heavyweight Boxers of all time
1. Roy Jones Jr.
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Antonio Tarver
4. Archie Moore
5. Maxie Rosenbloom
6. Virgil Hill
7. Bob Foster
8. Gus Lesnevich
9. Dennis Andries
10. Jeff Harding

Top 10 Super Middleweight Boxers of all time
1. Roy Jones Jr.
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. James Toney
5. Sven Ottke
6. Chris Eubank
7. Joe Calzaghe
8. Mikkel Kessler
9. Chong Pal Park
10. Markus Beyer

Top 10 Middleweight Boxers of all time
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Jack Dempsey
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Roy Jones Jr.
6. Felix Trinidad
7. Winky Wright
8. Jermain Taylor
9. Harry Greb
10. Carlos Monzon

Top 10 Super Welterweight Boxers of all time
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Roy Jones Jr.
3. Sugar Shane Mosley
4. Oscar de la Hoya
5. Sugar Ray Leonard
6. Winky Wright
7. Terry Norris
8. Thomas Hearns
9. Julio César Vásquez
10. Julian Jackson

Top 10 Welterweight Boxers of all time
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Miguel Cotto
4. Roy Jones Jr
5. Sugar Ray Leonard
6. Oscar de la Hoya
7. Shane Mosley
8. Manny Pacquiao
9. Ted "Kid" Lewis
10. Freddie 'Red' Cochrane

Top 10 Super Lightweight Boxers of all time
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Kosta Tszyu
4. Oscar de la Hoya
5. Antonio Cervantes
6. Julio Cesar Chavez
7. Bruno Arcari
8. Eddie Perkins
9. Mushy Callahan
10. Nicolino Locche

Top 10 Lightweight Boxers of all time
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Juan Diaz
3. Joe Gans
4. Manny Pacquiao
5. Ike Williams
6. Shane Mosley
7. Miguel Angel Gonzalez
8. Roberto Duran
9. Oscar de la Hoya
10. Benny Leonard

Top 10 Super Featherweight Boxers of all time
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Edwin Valero
4. Ricardo Arredondo
5. Arturo Gatti
6. Flash Elorde
7. Brian Mitchell
8. Sammy Serrano
9. Tod Morgan
10. Acelino Freitas

Top 10 Featherweight Boxers of all time
1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Abe Attell
3. Johnny Kilbane
4. Sandy Saddler
5. Eusebio Pedroza
6. Chris John
7. George Dixon
8. Danny Lopez
9. Salvador Sanchez
10. Juan Manuel Marquez

Top 10 Super Lightweight Boxers of all time
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Julio Cesar Chavez
3. Kosta Tszyu
4. Oscar de la Hoya
5. Antonio Cervantes
6. Manny Pacquiao
7. Pernell Whitaker
8. Roberto Duran
9. Acelino Freitas
10. Eddie Perkins

Top 10 Lightweight Boxers of all time
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Roy Jones Jr.
3. Roberto Duran
4. Oscar de la Hoya
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Vinny Paz
7. Sugar Shane Mosley
8. Pernell Whitaker
9. Juan Diaz
10. Juan Manuel Marquez

Top 10 Light Welterweight Boxers of all time
1. Aaron Pryor
2. Alexis Arguello
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?
9. ?
10. Arturo Gatti

P4P:

Top Boxers Of All Time

Aaron Pryor
Acelino Freitas
Antonio Tarver
Arturo Gatti
Bernard Hopkins
Chris Byrd
David Tua
Earnie Shavers
Edwin Valero
Eric Esch
Evander Holyfield
Felix Trinidad
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Francois Botha
George Foreman
Hasim Rahman
Ike Ibeabuchi
Jack Dempsey
James Toney
Jermain Taylor
Joe Frazier
John Ruiz
Juan Diaz
Juan Manuel Marquez
Julio Cesar Chavez
Ken Norton
Larry Holmes
Lennox Lewis
Manny Pacquiao
Marvin Hagler
Mickey Ward
Miguel Cotto
Mike Tyson
Muhammad Ali
Oscar De La Hoya
Pernell Whitaker
Riddick Bowe
Roberto Duran
Rocky Marciano
Roy Jones Jr.
Shane Mosley
Sugar Ray Leonard
Sugar Ray Robinson
Tomasz Adamek
Vinny Pazienza
Vitali Klitschko
Winky Wright
Wladimir Klitschko

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Post by manos de piedra Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:24 pm

wow

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Post by Rowley Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:25 pm

No but they did amuse me. Suspect the author is a blood relative of Juan Diaz.

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:25 pm

Spot on, for the most part. Don't think ? deserves a top ten place at Light-Welterweight, mind you. A bit generous there. Maybe top twenty.
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Post by Union Cane Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:25 pm

Disagree.
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Post by oxring Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:26 pm

Pretty safe to say disagree. You should put up a poll!

Welterweight - Roy Jones Jr?

I'm going to have to make him the most underrated guy in history. For being the first former WW ever to win a portion of the HW crown.
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Post by Rowley Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:26 pm

Top 10 Lightweight Boxers of all time
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Juan Diaz
3. Joe Gans
4. Manny Pacquiao
5. Ike Williams
6. Shane Mosley
7. Miguel Angel Gonzalez
8. Roberto Duran
9. Oscar de la Hoya
10. Benny Leonard

They have got some things right (only joking)


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Post by Scottrf Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:27 pm

Highlights for me:

No Pep at Feather.
Roy Jones #2 Lightweight.
Gatti at #10 despite being one of 3 boxers on the list.
Butterbean a P4P great.
Byrd>Joe Louis.
Andries>Charles at LHW.
Pryor #1 at LWW, unranked at Super Lightweight.

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Post by Scottrf Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:28 pm

oxring wrote:Pretty safe to say disagree. You should put up a poll!

Welterweight - Roy Jones Jr?

I'm going to have to make him the most underrated guy in history. For being the first former WW ever to win a portion of the HW crown.
Check the second (?) Lightweight list.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:28 pm

Ray Leonard the number 2 light heavyweight?

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:32 pm

Not too sure what to say really Scott.

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Post by Scottrf Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:32 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Not too sure what to say really Scott.
They aren't mine.

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Post by manos de piedra Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:34 pm

It must just be some guy trying to make a few bob on advertisements for boxing and mma gear.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:42 pm

I have no idea who Mushy Callahan is but she should be higher in the Super Lightweight list.

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Post by huw Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:43 pm

Someone either has a sense of humour or is an idiot.

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Post by fearlessBamber Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:44 pm

I like the intersection of super lightweight and light welterweight being noone.


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Post by sodhat Thu 24 Nov 2011, 2:45 pm

Did Floyd Mayweather write these per chance?

Either way, no Joe Louis at Heavyweight made me more or less skim the rest of the nonsense.

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Post by azania Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:09 pm

Good god. At least a certain crude HW is not there. Progress.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:10 pm

Harry Greb #9 at Middle is a bit generous as there is no proof he actually existed.
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Post by sodhat Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:12 pm

Anyone notice that Joe Calzaghe was so good that he appears on the SMW list twice?



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Post by Fists of Fury Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:13 pm

This is appalling.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:13 pm

sodhat wrote:Anyone notice that Joe Calzaghe was so good that he appears on the SMW list twice?



alma wrote:Joe Calzaghe did well to make the 168 list twice.....

Yes.
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Post by sodhat Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:14 pm

Union Cane wrote:
sodhat wrote:Anyone notice that Joe Calzaghe was so good that he appears on the SMW list twice?



alma wrote:Joe Calzaghe did well to make the 168 list twice.....

Yes.

They made the right choice promoting you to moderator, Union. You miss nothing with those hawk-eyes.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:16 pm

I wouldn't class it as a promotion mate...
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:17 pm

Union Cane wrote:I wouldn't class it as a promotion mate...

You could have said no.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:20 pm

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Post by sodhat Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:20 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Union Cane wrote:I wouldn't class it as a promotion mate...

You could have said no.

They probably sold it to him as all free t-shirts and primetime streams. No man could turn down free Amir Khan branded clothing.

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Post by Scottrf Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:20 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Union Cane wrote:I wouldn't class it as a promotion mate...
You could have said no.
He'd already undergone the sense of humour removal before he started having regrets.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:21 pm

sodhat wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Union Cane wrote:I wouldn't class it as a promotion mate...

You could have said no.

They probably sold it to him as all free t-shirts and primetime streams. No man could turn down free Amir Khan branded clothing.

You're right sodhat, it was the t-shirt that clinched the deal.

Spoiler:
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:22 pm

sodhat wrote:
man

That's where your theory falls down.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:22 pm

Al Cole Laugh WTF
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Post by Union Cane Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:35 pm

Cole has a good record at cruiser, it was when he stepped up to heavyweight it all fell apart, although he did have a couple of cracks at heavyweight titles.

Great shout by the author.
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Post by joeyjojo618 Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:41 pm

This list finally answers the age old question of who was better; Jermain Taylor or Harry Greb. The answer surprised me.

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Post by bhb001 Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:43 pm

Disagree. I can't get past a list which has Dennis Andries within five places of Archie Moore. Blows my mind!!

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Post by superflyweight Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:52 pm

What form of mental retardation does it take to compile lists as bad as these?

Was Waingro responsible? IMO he was LOL.

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Post by Atila Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:55 pm

Henry Armstrong didn't make any of the lists.

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Post by Nico the gman Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:56 pm

Where's Audley Harrison and Tyson Fury in the greatest Heavyweight list,shocking leaving them 2 out.
The guy who compiled the list obviously very knowledgeable on his boxing,can the moderators make sure he never gets on here we'll all be committing Hari Kari dear god!

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Post by Scottrf Thu 24 Nov 2011, 3:56 pm

superflyweight wrote:What form of mental retardation does it take to compile lists as bad as these?

Was Waingro responsible? IMO he was LOL.
Same as boxingnews24 I'd guess, they just want clicks.

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Post by The Galveston Giant Thu 24 Nov 2011, 5:06 pm

Union Cane wrote:Cole has a good record at cruiser, it was when he stepped up to heavyweight it all fell apart, although he did have a couple of cracks at heavyweight titles.

Great shout by the author.

Not for me, would have both Haye and Mormeck above him.
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Post by OasisBFC Thu 24 Nov 2011, 5:55 pm

tua?

joke.

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Post by Lance Thu 24 Nov 2011, 5:57 pm

looks like it was wrote in a hurry by somebody with limited boxing knowledge

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Post by zx1234 Thu 24 Nov 2011, 6:03 pm

chris byrd is too low on your rankings

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Post by d260005p Fri 25 Nov 2011, 10:32 am

Why is Mormeck above Haye? And why is Floyd Mayweather pretty much number 1 on EVERY list under Middleweight?! I know he is great, but come on! Are YOU Floyd Mayweather?!

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Post by School Project Fri 25 Nov 2011, 5:30 pm

This is the best thing I've seen all day!

Diaz above Marquez, despite losing twice... this guy should be hired by The Ring.

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Post by compelling and rich Fri 25 Nov 2011, 7:17 pm

i saw mike tyson at number two and knew this was going to be nonsense, little did i know it was going to get alot worse!!

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Post by horizontalhero Fri 25 Nov 2011, 7:23 pm

is it April fools day or something? What on earth is the pont is this?

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