Tiger's not happy...

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...about Hank Haney's new book, just wait til he sees what Stevie Williams has in store.

Unusual to see Tiger voicing strong opinions in the media, maybe he's opening up more... or maybe the book is worth reading!

What do you think, is this poor form on Haney's part?

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/01/20/tiger-woods-will-not-be-reading-ex-swing-coach-hank-haneys-tell-all-book-2/

Did armstro will it away or did he get the best treatment possible. i have been through 3 cancer deaths from immediate family. spent over a yeat every day in hospitals. trust me you cant will it away. you get lucky. but all the same good luck to armstrong and any body else that has it o got through it.

mystiroakey wrote:Did armstro will it away or did he get the best treatment possible. i have been through 3 cancer deaths from immediate family. spent over a yeat every day in hospitals. trust me you cant will it away. you get lucky. but all the same good luck to armstrong and any body else that has it o got through it.

He got lucky and he got the best treatment available. Whatever, it's not brave, it's something you just have to deal with.

I'm also a cynic so I don't think I believe the pomp that it got throughout his body and even through his brain; secondaries in the brain, in particular, would be very hard to treat.

Another shocking revelation from Haney's book. Apparently Woods didn't share his popsicles with Haney after dinner.

“When we were watching television after dinner, he’d sometimes go to the refrigerator to get a sugar-free popsicle,” says Haney. “But he never offered me one or ever came back with one, and one night I really wanted one of those popsicles. But I found myself sitting kind of frozen, not knowing what to do next. I didn’t feel right just going to the refrigerator and taking one, and I kind of started laughing to myself at how hesitant I was to ask Tiger for one. It actually took me a while to summon the courage to blurt out, ‘Hey, Bud, do you think I could have one of those popsicles?’ ”

Woods said Haney could get a popsicle.


Oh yeah and something about Tiger tearing his ACL training with the SEALs.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/sports/golf/woodss-distractions-detailed-by-his-ex-coach.html

Are we going to find out what brand of loo roll Woods uses. This is ground breaking stuff.

All I know is woods is welcome to suck on my popsicle any time. He is a fine specimen of a man.

McLaren wrote:All I know is woods is welcome to suck on my popsicle any time. He is a fine specimen of a man.

That will be known as a 69 then Mac as no doubt you'd be returning the favour with gusto.

He looks a bit in danger of blowing up. He's already got a couple of chins. He'll be known as Shane Woods soon.

If Tiger is not happy now, I wonder what is emotions will be once the book actually comes out.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/love_is_woods_remedy_PtZ8kjqmeZ6Tupz9p0PCeK


It seems Haney has made the whole thing a little more tabloid and salacious than some on here were predicting. I think it is pretty clear it is nothing more than a tiger expose, with some swing advice wrapped around it.

So he extracted the Michael out of god botherer Johnson (in quite a funny way ) and ridicules fatties. Surely this is a man that Super should adore ?

Who cares? The man was/is a nasty human being. Sad thing is, even though he hasn't won anything worth poopie in a while, too many people still have a wet dream at just the mention of his name.

Anyone find those antics in that article to be ones of an adult trying hard to be bully, likely based on the fact he was bullied at school, for being the gangly kid that played the boring game of golf add in braces and glasses and you have the full package for kids in a playground to bully him! Not right but highly likely.

Have to admit I find the Porn incident quite funny, but more power to Johnson for being the bigger man so to speak to not rise to Tigers port (I'll leave that open to the obvious jokes)

If this is really what the books going to be like I can see why Tiger is infuriated because if its an accirate account it shows him for the man he really must be. That said its quite easy to sensationalise all of those things highlighted. Did he really ridicule Mickelson for being a fatty or did he just make a quip which we've all done.

I have ordered a copy of the book but with an open mind because I think a lot will be throwaway comments that the writer has taken his own interpretation of. The problem now is that if Haney wants his product as a coach to flourish and his golf schools in the US this book can either make people think look what he did for Tigers game let's go see this guy or look at what he's done to Tigers image and leave him and his schools well alone

Diggers wrote:So he extracted the Michael out of god botherer Johnson (in quite a funny way ) and ridicules fatties. Surely this is a man that Super should adore ?

I can see a time in the near future when he'll be the fatty, he certainly seems to be the type who'll struggle with his weight, judging by his double chin, not to mention his lard ass dad as a genetic link.

Good stuff if he took the urine out of god botherers though.

Has golf been blessed by the presence of a more unpleasant individual than Earl woods in the last 20 years? The one thing I would like to hear about in tigers life is how mental his father was and how he treated tiger.

Yes Mac, it has, his son.

Super

Did you watch bbc breakfast this morning? There was a segment on internet trolls, I thought of you.

Very kind of you to do so Mac, I'm not a troll, I just don't like Woods. Nothing wrong with that

Nice to see Woods playing well tonight, just not putting the way we know he can

Another swing coach, Rick Smith, has blasted Haney over the book. Have to say he has a point.

"I would rather be broke and not have a penny to my name before I violate the code of player-teacher confidentiality," Smith told Farrell Evans of ESPN.com. "In 27 years out here, I've never done that. I'm personally upset with Hank because he's broken and violated our code of ethics. If you have the opportunity and you're privileged to conversations, you will not and should not share anything from them with anyone. I don't care who it is.... What Hank did is against the rules....your relationship with these players is for a lifetime.....you can't put a dollar value on something that is an ethical violation."

Jesus, they're just golf coaches, not doctors with a hypocratic oath. I wish they'd get down off their sanctemoneous soap boxes.

Woods by virtue of not being clever enough to envoke a confidentiality agreement has dug his won grave. If he didn't want people to find out about his lurid private life, he shouldn't have acted like such a git.

Whatever Rick...

Yeah, I mean heaven forbid a bunch of guys should have some ethics about how they deal with all their clients. What a disgrace.

In a round about way I agree with Rick Smith, I think he's over the top stating that Haney's breaking the rules, but I do kind of agree with it. I agree with Super that had Tiger and his advisors been a little bit clued up then such a scenario wouldn't even be put in front of us.

Funny as the snipets are that are coming out about Haney has showed himself to have very little class (and perhaps morals), moaning about Woods not picking up tabs etc... please, he would have attained numerous endorcements just for who he was coaching during this period including his appearances as the "Swing Coach" in Tiger Woods Golf for 3/4 years (on all platforms) not to mention the sizeable salary he would have been picking up. One thing I would be fairly certain of is that very few touring pro's will want to work with him after this.

It's such a non story. Haney writes a book about Woods to make some money, wow, who cares. Not sure why Rick whatever his name is tripping over his bottom lip for.

I think a fellow coach is exactly the sort of person who should speak out. The last thing golf needs as a sport is expose type books.

Who cares? The more important thing for Haney is whether anyone else want's to have him as their coach knowing he might blab. Hope he's set up for life....

Think he finished coaching after Tiger, so no worries on that front.

Here we go again, golf "should be holier than thou" and whiter than any other sport. Ya da ya da.

I couldn't care about the book, i'll never read it for obvious reasons, but Woods is as much to blame as Haney.

As for other players working with Haney, I'm sure they will, as other players might have a little bit more class to act like an adult in their private life whilst having the foresight to put in a clause in case of any minor indiscretions.

If you had the vague ability to remove your OTT hatred for Woods from the equation it should be obvious that all Smith had pointed out is people should do the decent thing. This relates to any of their clients, not just one.

I couldn't care less if it's Woods or not, if you behave appallingly, you deserve to be shown up, it's nothing to do with what's the decent thing.

If Woods or anyone else has behaved in a decent manner they deserve to be talked about decently, if you behave badly, then don't be surprised about being talked about, but don't shoot the messenger. SOme people will be interested in his life, but it's not really to do with the morals of the writer.

Don't shoot the paid messenger. Yes Haney is a true hero.
I work for companies who look after very famous people, for which they get paid. They could leak all sorts of information for extra money , they don't and I respect that.
You are the first to slate todays society and tabloid press coverage and yet are happy to condone someone contributing to they very culture.
No, nothing to do with Woods at all. Utter tripe.

Digs, it's more the demand for selacious information that annoys me. The gutter press merely meet the demand. Blame the people who want to read it.

I've always said my dislike for Woods has nothing to do with his private life.

I think Haney is worse than a kiss and tell nightclub slapper. At least they weren't being paid at the time. Haney is meant to be a professional and has shown himself to be a money grabbing scum bag.

Fair enough, I just can't see how because he's involved in golf he's expected to behave a certain way.

If and when Steve Williams releases a book, as he has indicated he will, would people consider that also to be a breach of professional confidence?

I think it's a rule of life not just golf, Id think he was scum in any walk of life. It just happens to be golf and Woods.

Surely the people who read it are equally culpable and sucmlike, as without them their would be no need to release said book?
Sign of the times unfortunately Diggers,

incontinentia wrote:If and when Steve Williams releases a book, as he has indicated he will, would people consider that also to be a breach of professional confidence?

Stevie the racist. Completly.

Apart from maybe John Daly, what other golfer will attract enough interest to have a coach write a book about him?

Apart from maybe John Daly, what other golfer will attract enough interest to have a coach write a book about him?

I can't imagine anybody wanting to read a book about any golfer.

You could write a kids book about Donald. Would send them off to sleep nicely.

Precisely, but I don't think a Woods book would be any more interesting. It's all just banal tittle tattle. Surely there are better ways to spend your time than reading about that?

I don't know. I'd read something about Trevino, Nicklaus, Hagen, Hogan, Daly (maybe). I suspect some of the 'journeyman' pros would have an interesting story to tell of the highs and lows of an also-ran. Depends on the writer really - if they're interesting and witty then I think it'd work fine.

Tiger is now happy.

ermm . perfect timing for him!! books out this week!!

Yeah, probably a bit of added motivation (although he is unlikely to admit to it) to prove (a) he is doing OK without his former coach, and (b) he doesn't have a "big miss" [apart from when someone screams during his swing] nor a fear of one (or at least, not any more).

however also maybe perfect timing for the author!!

Anyone going to buy this today or has anyone already got it in the post this morning?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Big-Miss-Years-Coaching/dp/0307985989/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332844346&sr=8-1

You'd have to be a loser to want to read that.