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Post by skyeman Wed 25 Jan 2012, 5:53 am

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England team:
AJ Strauss(c), AN Cook, IJL Trott, KP Pietersen, IR Bell, EJG Morgan, MJ Prior(w), SCJ Broad, GP Swann, JM Anderson, MS Panesar

Pakistan team:
Mohammad Hafeez, Taufeeq Umar, Azhar Ali, Younis Khan, Misbah-ul-Haq(c), Asad Shafiq, Adnan Akmal(w), Abdur Rehman, Umar Gul, Saeed Ajmal, Junaid
Khan


Pakistan won the toss and elected to bat


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Post by skyeman Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:21 am

A patient 50 from Cook clap

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:22 am

Well done Cook clap
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:24 am

Spot on from this pair. Even if the partnership is broken fairly soon it should help the confidence of those coming after.
Theres no scoreboard pressure now either. Bowling first and restricting the opposition is a huge things. Broad and Anderson may have played a role in this improvement.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:24 am

50 for Cook, very well done, sir. Keep it going.

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Post by liverbnz Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:25 am

Impressive from Cook. All the moreso as he can struggle against spin, especially with his footwork and playing with a straight bat. Shows the strong mentality he has developed these last few years.

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Post by skyeman Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:28 am

100 partnership clap Just the ticket, keep going lads.

Eng 127/1.

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:35 am

I have been very impressed by these two's approach to this session. Excellent application from them.
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Post by alfie Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:46 am

Evening all

Haven't seen a ball bowled today - Australia Day, parties , wives , tennis etc...

... but it seems like a decent day for England so far Smile

Could hardly have cleaned up Pakistan quicker this morning ... now some useful batting apparently.

How has the batting been ? Safe , or have they have to battle?

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:47 am

Better than anyone could have expected after the last test. Chuffed to bits with todays play from England so far.

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:53 am

Strauss was again taken cheaply alfie but Cook and Trott have batted well. Cook looked a little unsure early on but is now batting well.
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Post by Fists of Fury Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:53 am

Other than a plumb lbw against Trott that wasn't reviewed, we have been quite excellent, Alfie. Not the quickest scoring but that isn't an issue at this point. They've played safe and solid. Strauss went to another half forward prod, which was disappointing, but these two seem to have the measure of the spinners for the most part (famous last words).

How's Australia Day?

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Post by alfie Thu 26 Jan 2012, 10:58 am

Thanks billy and fists

Australia Day has been warm and pleasant , lots of champagne etc etc and some good company cake RedWine music

Be interesting to see what happens in this last session...

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:04 am

Did you move over there for work, ALfie? How are you finding it?

Yeah England will be extremely well set if they can negotiate this last session well.

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:14 am

What on Earthis Australia day alfie? When i was there no-one could give me an answer...

Its important for Pakistan to take a couple of wickets in this session or England could take command of this match.
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:15 am

eirebilly wrote:What on Earthis Australia day alfie? When i was there no-one could give me an answer...

Its important for Pakistan to take a couple of wickets in this session or England could take command of this match.

Its the anniverary of British soveriegnty. Im guessing the Irish dont have a similar festival.....

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:18 am

I thought that it was the day that Australia was discovered by the brittish but that wasnt the case.

Cook starting to have a go :-)
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:23 am

Billy just checked...its British soveriegnty over ( youll love this) East Holland that started the tradition of celbrating the day, then the formation of NSW was officialy celebrated that day ... then it became the de facto national day of Australia as various States took it on.


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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:23 am

If England can get to the close of play around 220 / 1or 3 then it will be a fantastic day for them.
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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:24 am

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Billy just checked...its British soveriegnty over ( youll love this) East Holland that started the tradition of celbrating the day, then the formation of NSW was officialy celebrated that day ... then it became the de facto national day of Australia as various States took it on.


Ha haa, cheers mate, so the damn Dutch started it all....
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Post by Fists of Fury Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:25 am

Gul with an injury problem?

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:27 am

Australia Day commemorates the day that (I forget his name) sailed in to Syndey Harbour and established Sydney as the first European colonisation of Australia.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:30 am

Gul ok despite a tight calf.

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Post by alfie Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:31 am

Australia Day didn't seem to be a big deal until fairly recently - I've noticed a lot more fuss over this sort of thing in the last ten years or so , Anzac Day too ...

This year a newspaper was offering free Aussie flag hats and stick-on flag tatoos ... and the local wine advertising mob ran a campaign urging physical assault on anyone seen drinking an imported drop Shocked

Decent excuse for a party anyway...god bless Arthur Phillip guinness

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:34 am

It was pretty big in Perth when i was last there in 99 alfie. Massive day for drinking but there beer wasnt that nice Wink
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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:37 am

Runs still seem to be pretty hard to come by out there
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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:40 am

For Trott to average over 58 after 25 tests is an amazing achievement.
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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:43 am

Must have been such an important point regarding Trott that V2 felt it needed posting twice Wink
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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:47 am

Trotts gone Sad
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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:47 am

That will be me for complimenting him just 5 minutes ago Sad
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Post by alfie Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:49 am

OOPS

Wicket rather out of the blue there ... I gather Trott rather lost it for a moment , not like him ...

Need to settle again.

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Post by dummy_half Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:50 am

Sounds like Trott was got by a good ball, although maybe could have got further forward in an attempt to smother the spin. However, anything that a lefty spinner pitches middle and leg and hits off stump with is pretty difficult to combat.

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Post by Pal Joey Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:50 am

Just been watching the tennis. Great partnership from Cook and Trott (reading back). Rehman got a bit of turn there to dismiss Trott.

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:51 am

What KP will we see today? Hopefully the attacking KP that will have a go at knocking the bowlers around....
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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:52 am

Trott planted his feet and didnt move. It was a good ball but Trotts lack of footwork made it look a lot better. Still he did a very good job clap
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Post by Fists of Fury Thu 26 Jan 2012, 11:57 am

Very good job. I think KP needs to survive for 10 overs or so, if he can do that then he may be able to go on and get a score. Vulnerable early against spinners on a slow deck.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:02 pm

KP off the mark with a 4. Hopefully give him some confidence...

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:03 pm

Rehman is giving KP loads to think about here. KP does'nt look comfortable at all.

KP off the mark with a boundary
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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:06 pm

With 17 overs left to play, you would think that England would be looking to add at least another 50 runs today. This match is still in the balance but given the scoring rates it could be a very long next 3 days....
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:06 pm

Well they finaly got the breakthorugh but it looks to me like Pakistan have been far to reliant on their 3 man spin attack. England did the damage with the seamers, looking at the number of overs bolwed by the slows in this game they really havent been effective threats.

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Post by alfie Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:07 pm

Off the mark with a boundary ... would be nice to see an aggressive KP indeed , although some people seem to doubt his ability to play that way on these pitches.

I suspect he's as likely to fail poking around against spinners and would be better off playing more naturally.

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:09 pm

5 dots boundary, 5 dots bounday..... Not too unhappy with that Very Happy
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:10 pm

eirebilly wrote:With 17 overs left to play, you would think that England would be looking to add at least another 50 runs today. This match is still in the balance but given the scoring rates it could be a very long next 3 days....

Hmm I suspect they will bat slower than that, KP will be desperate to stay in overnight and be around for the new ball tomorrow.

It is a very very slow scoring game, but it appears thats the way both sides want to play. Didnt really pan out for Pakistan. Maybe someone in Englands lower order will hit a rapid 30, its that kind of innings that can flip a game like this between close and victory.

Certainly England will need to be on with the bowling again tomorrow.

Cahnces of rain shortening the game ? Whistle

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:11 pm

I would love to see KP just play his natural game here alfie, it would probably settle him down more...
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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:13 pm

PSW, i think that KP will settle in and become agressive (at least i hope he does) as that is the way he plays.

I hope Cook gets a ton here as well as he has done a great job today.
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Post by hampo17 Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:13 pm

alfie wrote:Off the mark with a boundary ... would be nice to see an aggressive KP indeed , although some people seem to doubt his ability to play that way on these pitches.

I suspect he's as likely to fail poking around against spinners and would be better off playing more naturally.

Totally agree, get on with it now but he needs to remember to start again in the morning. To often KP is there overnight but out in the first over the next day.

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:16 pm

KP only needs to hit a couple of boundaries and he will start to feel good and attack the bowling. I just hope he doesnt get bogged down.
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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:18 pm

Rehman is really bowling well to KP here
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Post by Guest Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:22 pm

really good from england so far today


we are playing ajmal better for certain, the pitch turned quite a bit yesterday and has today, however i think our batsman are picking ajmal a bit better, which is good signs.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:23 pm

KP is going to find this tough. Theres got to be a menatl block with him and spinners now. Pakisatn no that too. He also knows hes expedted to see out the day and be set in for the new ball. Then the fun starts, the new ball is where the wickets have been falling in th is test. Sure it may give him a break form the spin a bit but hes going to be expected to not chuck his wicket away till its seen off.

If he can get through all that then we will see him open up. Its a lot to ask though, its right out of his comfort zone.

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jan 2012, 12:24 pm

That was very close for Cook.......
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