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Post by skyeman Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:53 am

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England team:
AJ Strauss(c), AN Cook, IJL Trott, KP Pietersen, IR Bell, EJG Morgan, MJ Prior(w), SCJ Broad, GP Swann, JM Anderson, MS Panesar

Pakistan team:
Mohammad Hafeez, Taufeeq Umar, Azhar Ali, Younis Khan, Misbah-ul-Haq(c), Asad Shafiq, Adnan Akmal(w), Abdur Rehman, Umar Gul, Saeed Ajmal, Junaid
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Pakistan won the toss and elected to bat


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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:24 pm

Rehman has actually been the pick of the Pakistan bowlers today, by the sound of things.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:25 pm

4 for KP off Rehman.

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Post by Guest Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:25 pm

KP looks a lot better when he uses his feet, then when he prods at it.

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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:26 pm

Problem is, PSW, if you ask KP to simply go out there and defend his wicket until stumps, you will find that KP will get frustrated.

I think KP wants to attack and believe that he will.

Case in point, fine shot from him Very Happy
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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:27 pm

Cook into the nervous 90's
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Post by Guest Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:29 pm

cook's gone Sad

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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:30 pm

Ok, so Cook has not scored at a blistering pace, what he has done is get valuable runs and settled into a nice rythem. I think that he has played very well today after he got over the initial wobbles.


Bugger, i should stop writing compliments Sad
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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:30 pm

KP has always looked better when using his feet, you're right, cf. Any of the top players of spin in the world all have one common thing, and that is their foot movement.

Remember him against Warne in 2005 and against Murali? Used his feet, had success. Those prods just do not suit his style, technique or size.

Go on Cooky, get a ton.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:30 pm

Oh damn, I spoke too soon.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:31 pm

We need another big partnership otherwise we aren't going to find ourselves in the driving seat of this game.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:33 pm

Time for an ENgland batting collapse?

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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:34 pm

I think that any sort of lead will be good for England. If by lunch tomorrow England have a 30 or 40 lead with a few wickets still in hand then they will be in the driving seat.
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Post by alfie Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:35 pm

No hundred for Cook Sad

Still he's done a fine job for England. Up to the rest of them to kick on now...

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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:35 pm

I am really worried about Bell right now. I would have promoted Prior up the order myself..
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:36 pm

Hmm even with a batting collpase unless its truely spectatcular England would be level.

Theres still 4 good batsmen left.

198/3 is a cracking score, we are just spoilt by the number of 700/1 (dec) England have had over the last few years.

Totallky agree with Billy, if we arent down to the tail by lunch tomorrow then England have bossed Pkaistan.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:36 pm

We are due to bat last, remember. Personally, I think we need a lead of at least 100, preferably 150.

4 for Bell off Ajmal. Off the mark.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:37 pm

eirebilly wrote:I am really worried about Bell right now. I would have promoted Prior up the order myself..

Why?

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:37 pm

Well on course for that FOF

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Post by hampo17 Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:38 pm

Gutted for Cook, he really deserved the hundred. Will give him and Trott confidence for the next test though. Hopefully we won't lose another wicket before the close.

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Post by liverbnz Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:39 pm

eirebilly wrote:I am really worried about Bell right now. I would have promoted Prior up the order myself..

Why so? He's arguabley been the best batsmen in the world these last 12 months or so.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:39 pm

Prediction for the close? I'm going with 230/4.

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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:39 pm

100 - 150 would be ideal Fists but it is a tough ask out there. Some late slogging from the tail enders may prove very important come the last day of this test match. Key is to get a lead and get to lunch tomorrow with at least 4 wickets in hand to put Pakistan really under some pressure.

Broad always bats well after having a good spell with the ball Smile
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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:40 pm

Why? Because i feel that Bell has struggled with the spin whereas Prior has looked very confident playing the spin. just my views though and hope to be proven wrong.
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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:40 pm

Getting to lunch tomorrow with 4 wickets in hand would be some achievement, and if we can do so then we will be cruising in this Test.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:41 pm

eirebilly wrote:Why? Because i feel that Bell has struggled with the spin whereas Prior has looked very confident playing the spin. just my views though and hope to be proven wrong.

Worrying that he was undone by the doosra twice, which it looked like he didn't read, but technically Bell is the best player in this England side, and is the best against spin in my book. If he picks the doosra he will be fine, hopefully done some work on it.

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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:44 pm

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eirebilly wrote:Why? Because i feel that Bell has struggled with the spin whereas Prior has looked very confident playing the spin. just my views though and hope to be proven wrong.

Worrying that he was undone by the doosra twice, which it looked like he didn't read, but technically Bell is the best player in this England side, and is the best against spin in my book. If he picks the doosra he will be fine, hopefully done some work on it.

Yes, that has worried me. With 10 overs left in the day, yes i would have promoted Prior. If it was much earlier the definitely Bell.
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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:44 pm

KP gone. Damn it.

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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:44 pm

Bugger. KP gone.

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Post by alfie Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:45 pm

Some fine bowling from Rehman clap

Nervous times for Bell.

... and now Pietersen goes ... danger of frittering away a strong position here...

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:45 pm

Not good for England this. A very difficult pitch for new batsmen to come in on, but a good one once you're set. The key is to ride your luck, play properly and get yourself in.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:46 pm

Sounds like KP was a little unlucky there.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:46 pm

OK now you can start moaning FOF

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Post by hampo17 Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:47 pm

From the BBC page it looks like KP played another rash shot Sad

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Post by Biltong Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:47 pm

England must focus here, Cook and Pietersen gone in a space of a few overs. They must be a little more circumspect with their batting otherwise they may not have a good first innings lead.
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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:47 pm

Good catch though, it has to be said.

Come on Mogs, prove me wrong and show us you can be a good test player Wink
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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:48 pm

Nah, cricinfo tells it more how it is. BBC are always a bit OTT.

PSW, I am about to start moaning, my friend. If we lose another I'm going to be apoplectic!

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Post by hampo17 Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:49 pm

Haven't seen any of Morgan in the last test, does he still duck down when batting?

That really worries me, you're taught as a kid to keep the head still, it can't help him focus on the ball with that much movement.

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:50 pm

Remember Pakistan were in a similar position to this in their innings...

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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:50 pm

I would have taken 220/4 at the start of the day so England have still done very well. Massive credit to Cook and Trott for that.
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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:51 pm

New ball time.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:53 pm

Yuhuh ...just when you want two knew batsmen who are struggling for form to come in, especially when one of them is spin speacilist. Doh

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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:54 pm

Come on lads, see it to stumps......
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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:54 pm

Arent they both supposedly spin specialists PSW?
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Post by alfie Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:55 pm

New ball available but they won't be taking it : trial by spin here , runs have dried up - tense period.

Cook got out at an inconvenient time - if he'd stayed in another five or seven overs or so Jimmy would have come in and Bell might not be going through all this torture ...

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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:57 pm

These two will shut up shop. I would'nt be suprised to see maiden overs until stumps.
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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:58 pm

Its not pretty but it has to be done. Hang in their lads Very Happy
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Post by Fists of Fury Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:59 pm

Let's hope so, certainly don't want to see any wickets!

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Post by eirebilly Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:00 pm

Okey, maybe the odd run then as well Wink
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:01 pm

Interesting Paksitan didnt take the new ball.

For England it wouldve been a no brainer. Guess they just dont have Broad and Anderson in the side.

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Post by alfie Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:02 pm

3 more overs : hate it when they try to play like this. Always seems next ball could be it ...

Don't get me wrong , they have to hang on at all costs tonight, so understandable play , but it isn't natural for them , and the bowlers are encouraged... heart in mouth there, inside edge saves Bell !

2 to go ...

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