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by **Afro** Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:26 pm

Points deductions in Scotland?

That will tie up the title in February then

by Guest Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:27 pm

Yup, breaking news on SSN

by sodhat Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:28 pm

If it will keep you guys in the league then I say swap away.

It's better than the alternative of losing you and trying to find reliable replacements, as well as losing the experience and banter you provide.

I do think there is a slight chasm between some sides here though, and that means that some harvest the best players and smaller sides (or 'worse' including my team) are unable to get anyone that would really give them a chance to win the league or even beat the big boys.

by The Special Juan Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:28 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:Points deductions in Scotland?

That will tie up the title in February then

Dundee went into administration last year and were deducted 25 points. Livingston had something more serious and were relegated to Division 3.

by sodhat Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:30 pm

Probably clever timing for Rangers. They clearly need financial help, and they feel that the title was getting away from them anyway. So they can take a riskless hit this season to sort themselves out and come back next season to challenge Celtic again.

by Beer Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:32 pm

My biggest issue is TP's.

I think they need to be reduced to allow the market to stay fresh. Now it's just ridiculous. Anyone who is left has either been linked to a big club or costs a fortune. And then it's spending £20m on someone nobody has heard of.

I enjoy this, but i think next time round you should use some slightly more obscure teams, cut budgets and make people actually 'manage' the side.

by FIFA Diva Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:33 pm

I am going to auction my players to the two teams from each league preferably the two bottoms teams. This will slightly even out the competition no offence but some of you do stupid deals and mess your clubs up.

by Guest Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:34 pm

afternoon guys Very Happy

crimey sorry mate nothing for parker, and sodhat nothing for padapolous sorry.

by sodhat Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:35 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:I am going to auction my players to the two teams from each league preferably the two bottoms teams. This will slightly even out the competition no offence but some of you do stupid deals and mess your clubs up.

In fairness, everyone else takes advantage of some of the ridiculous offers... Ganso for £60m... Whistle

by Guest Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:36 pm

whats going on with auctions and stuff?

is someone leaving?

by Guest Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:37 pm

Its a new rule CF.
Every club has to auction 2 random players.
The players drawn from Juve were Parker & Honda.

by **Afro** Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:39 pm

King Beer wrote:
I enjoy this, but i think next time round you should use some slightly more obscure teams, cut budgets and make people actually 'manage' the side.

From early discussions with the runners it will be. There will be a lot more headroom for progress into future seasons and the teams will definately be new ones to all of us

by cherriesfna Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:40 pm

sodhat wrote:
VivaPaulScholes wrote:I am going to auction my players to the two teams from each league preferably the two bottoms teams. This will slightly even out the competition no offence but some of you do stupid deals and mess your clubs up.

In fairness, everyone else takes advantage of some of the ridiculous offers... Ganso for £60m...

by Guest Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:40 pm

Y I Man wrote:Its a new rule CF.
Every club has to auction 2 random players.
The players drawn from Juve were Parker & Honda.

:facepalm, no it isnt and no they werent, i have checked back through the pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

however just seen my lawyer offers, very tempting!

by cherriesfna Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:40 pm

whats goijng on guys

by Guest Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:40 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:
Y I Man wrote:Its a new rule CF.
Every club has to auction 2 random players.
The players drawn from Juve were Parker & Honda.

:facepalm, no it isnt and no they werent, i have checked back through the pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cant believe you checked lol Laugh

YI 1-0 CF

by sodhat Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:41 pm

If there is genuine boredom from several people, would it be better to regenerate the league before season three?

I'm not exactly for that premise, but I don't want to have teams being vacant and no transfer action on here either.

by **Afro** Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:41 pm

CF/Cherries - either of you fancy swapping teams with me?

by Beer Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:41 pm

sodhat wrote:
VivaPaulScholes wrote:I am going to auction my players to the two teams from each league preferably the two bottoms teams. This will slightly even out the competition no offence but some of you do stupid deals and mess your clubs up.

In fairness, everyone else takes advantage of some of the ridiculous offers... Ganso for £60m...

Everyone values players differently.

Take me; i bid £20m for Giroud.

Why?

Because he's been prolific in Ligue 1 for 2 seasons, been linked with a host of clubs in England and Europe and importantly, scores goals. If there is a player i want, then i will pay over the odds rather than haggle *cough* Fernandinho*cough*.

I think a few improvements could make this more entertaining...

~ Shorten the tactics process.
~ Bring in the '2 clubs per season rule' to stop the big boys exploiting the transfer market.
~ Change the rules on players leaving through Lawyers. Where releases you buy and then sell get you half the value, do the opposite for Lawyers and say you have to pay double to get them back, or wait till the start of the next season.

by sodhat Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:42 pm

cherriesfan wrote:
sodhat wrote:
VivaPaulScholes wrote:I am going to auction my players to the two teams from each league preferably the two bottoms teams. This will slightly even out the competition no offence but some of you do stupid deals and mess your clubs up.

In fairness, everyone else takes advantage of some of the ridiculous offers... Ganso for £60m...

No offence intended cherries. Although you did then compound that by signing Heskey.

by The Special Juan Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:42 pm

Y I Man wrote:
cricketfan90 wrote:
Y I Man wrote:Its a new rule CF.
Every club has to auction 2 random players.
The players drawn from Juve were Parker & Honda.

:facepalm, no it isnt and no they werent, i have checked back through the pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cant believe you checked lol

YI 1-0 CF

I actually laughed at that. Soooo funny YI, you troll Very Happy

!!!

by cherriesfna Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:43 pm

i think there too much money in the FFA making it become worthless and making trnasfers too often

by Guest Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:43 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:CF/Cherries - either of you fancy swapping teams with me?

no mate sorry...

im enjoying the FL

by cherriesfna Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:45 pm

what u mean afro

by **Afro** Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:47 pm

King Beer wrote:I think a few improvements could make this more entertaining...

~ Shorten the tactics process. Tactics are one of the most important things for the smaller teams to be able to compete with the bigger teams. Smaller tactics will play into the hands of the bigger clubs

~ Bring in the '2 clubs per season rule' to stop the big boys exploiting the transfer market. Agree completely with this.

~ Change the rules on players leaving through Lawyers. Where releases you buy and then sell get you half the value, do the opposite for Lawyers and say you have to pay double to get them back, or wait till the start of the next season. You already cannot buy back a players sold in the lawyers for at least 1 season, potentially 2 (they have to complete 1 full season). And when you do, it has to done based on where the player is now and how much was paid for them (e.g. Shaqiri is at Inter, so not likely to leave and certainly not for less than the £20m they paid for him

by Guest Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:47 pm

what do you think cherries!

by cherriesfna Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:50 pm

where does that say anything bout swapping?

by **Afro** Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:51 pm

no mate sorry...

im enjoying the FL

??????

Fiorentina are in the Furious League too????

Cherries - I am looking to swap teams with someone, so they take over Fiorentina and I take their team.

I would prefer a team in Viva's league as I think that with a bit of work, I could actually win the league in that league and I fancy that challenge.

C'mon CF. RVP has you as his first choice as the new Fiorentina manager

by sodhat Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:53 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:
no mate sorry...

im enjoying the FL
??????

Fiorentina are in the Furious League too????

Cherries - I am looking to swap teams with someone, so they take over Fiorentina and I take their team.

I would prefer a team in Viva's league as I think that with a bit of work, I could actually win the league in that league and I fancy that challenge.

C'mon CF. RVP has you as his first choice as the new Fiorentina manager

by cherriesfna Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:54 pm

ill swap if no-on else will

(meanwhile in his head praying he gets them)

by TwisT Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:54 pm

Completely disagree with this Afro

Tactics are one of the most important things for the smaller teams to be able to compete with the bigger teams. Smaller tactics will play into the hands of the bigger clubs

It might be a good joke of "RVP x2" but that is what it feels like. We will see come tomorrow but I have RVP marked all game by Soriano, which enables my defenders to concentrate on their usual game.......

So if I get the results and there are RVP x 2, how do you expect me to feel? It is not sour grapes, but what you are saying doesn't work. Smaller teams marking the bigger teams star players never works.

EDIT: So am saying smaller tactics WOULD make it more enjoyable. If RVP are going to score two past me, at least let me not spend a lot of time writing tactics to combat this when it is pointless.

by Beer Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:55 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:
King Beer wrote:I think a few improvements could make this more entertaining...

~ Shorten the tactics process. Tactics are one of the most important things for the smaller teams to be able to compete with the bigger teams. Smaller tactics will play into the hands of the bigger clubsBut half the managers don't read every single line of tactics. Even the smaller clubs can get across the way they want to play in bullet point form. Remeber, RVP = Goals etc, doesn't matter how you say you're gonna play.

~ Bring in the '2 clubs per season rule' to stop the big boys exploiting the transfer market. Agree completely with this.

~ Change the rules on players leaving through Lawyers. Where releases you buy and then sell get you half the value, do the opposite for Lawyers and say you have to pay double to get them back, or wait till the start of the next season. You already cannot buy back a players sold in the lawyers for at least 1 season, potentially 2 (they have to complete 1 full season). And when you do, it has to done based on where the player is now and how much was paid for them (e.g. Shaqiri is at Inter, so not likely to leave and certainly not for less than the £20m they paid for himWhat i mean is, say rather than one full season, just do the next season. Face it, anyone sold at the end of the season is purely a fundraiser. Secondly, if say Porto wanted to buy Shaqiri, rather than waiting till season 3, he should (providing it make sense) be able to buy him out for double what he went for, so Shaqiri would cost him £40m to buy instantly.

by **Afro** Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:55 pm

I have offers to swap from Everton and Malaga.

Both are tempting as Malaga have a little more cash, whilst Everton for the emotional pull!

by cherriesfna Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:57 pm

SPURS WE HAVE A TON OF CASH AND SOME GREAT PLAYERS

by Nay Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:57 pm

TSC wrote:
Y I Man wrote:Rangers give notice to go into Administration

REALLY!!? YAHOOOO!!!

Seriously i am really close top getting my self banned here

by sodhat Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:58 pm

Nay Bother wrote:
TSC wrote:
Y I Man wrote:Rangers give notice to go into Administration

REALLY!!? YAHOOOO!!!

Seriously i am really close top getting my self banned here

Are you a Rangers fan Nay?

by The Special Juan Mon 13 Feb 2012, 3:59 pm

Nay Bother wrote:
TSC wrote:
Y I Man wrote:Rangers give notice to go into Administration

REALLY!!? YAHOOOO!!!

Seriously i am really close top getting my self banned here

Nothing in particular against Rangers Nay, I'd feel the same way if it was Celtic. If one of the OF go then hopefully there will be an end to the hatred and all that in Scottish football. But this is a discussion for another place.

by Beer Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:00 pm

Nay Bother wrote:
TSC wrote:
Y I Man wrote:Rangers give notice to go into Administration

REALLY!!? YAHOOOO!!!

Seriously i am really close top getting my self banned here

I'm with TSC. Great news. Hope they get the same treatment as Dundee and Livingston.

The reasoning behind it is ridiculous.

by Nay Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:02 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:I am going to auction my players to the two teams from each league preferably the two bottoms teams. This will slightly even out the competition no offence but some of you do stupid deals and mess your clubs up.

ohhhh, i am bottom because i am in the group of death, and very rarely do deals,

WHo decides what players?

Where is this rule

by cherriesfna Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:03 pm

Nay Bother wrote:
VivaPaulScholes wrote:I am going to auction my players to the two teams from each league preferably the two bottoms teams. This will slightly even out the competition no offence but some of you do stupid deals and mess your clubs up.

ohhhh, i am bottom because i am in the group of death, and very rarely do deals

and who makes those stupid deals, certainly not me

by **Afro** Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:03 pm

TwisT wrote:Completely disagree with this Afro

Tactics are one of the most important things for the smaller teams to be able to compete with the bigger teams. Smaller tactics will play into the hands of the bigger clubs

It might be a good joke of "RVP x2" but that is what it feels like. We will see come tomorrow but I have RVP marked all game by Soriano, which enables my defenders to concentrate on their usual game.......

So if I get the results and there are RVP x 2, how do you expect me to feel? It is not sour grapes, but what you are saying doesn't work. Smaller teams marking the bigger teams star players never works.

But with smaller tactics, you wouldn't have been able to put that tactic in in as detail and it would have been even more a case of RVP meaning goals.

What I would say is that your tactics need to reflect a player strengths. Soriano is not a man marker at all and has never done anything IRL to suggest that is a job he would excel at. So that wouldn't necessarily take RVP out of the game. It may just take Soriano out of the game far more than it effects RVP.

I accept that noone knew Rodwell was a decent man marker until he did the job on David Silva earlier in the season, and before that, having Rodwell man marking may have counted against you. Soriano may well be the best man marker in the world, but we can only base ratings on what we see IRL

Imagine if Cherries told Heskey to get on the end of every cross with diving headers at goal, or volleys from the edge of the area. Would that mean you would instantly give him more goals, or would you think to yourself, Heskey cannot do any of that.

by **ADMIN** Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:06 pm

I'm with Afro in regards to the tactics.
Yes for some people they see RVP on a team sheet and vote based on that.

But it he same respect how come Arsenal and Juventus aren't higher up their leagues?
They have better teams on paper than most other clubs in their league yet through their tactics (sorry CF but it is the feedback you get so I'm not saying anything that isn't well known) they don't get the wins.
It would end up becoming the Euro league thing if we all reduced down to bullet points or worse.

by cherriesfna Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:06 pm

i know, heskey isnt terrible, even if i tellhim win the ariel battles and hold up the ball somepeole wouldnt notice that and go, oh its heskey, auto loss for spurs

by TwisT Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:07 pm

Fair enough, but I still stand by people won't factor that in (even if he can man mark or not). Evn if he was the best marker in the game, they would still put RVP to score.

My point is smaller tactics would be easier to read and easier to vote on. The length is getting absurd and if people say they don't skim most of it then I am sorry but you are telling fibs.

Hence RVP x 2. We will see tomorrow. I bet you that RVP scores AND there won't be any mention of whether soriano can man mark or not.

by cherriesfna Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:09 pm

i will still concede 3 tomorrow even with 6 at the back and 2 DMs

by Beer Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:11 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:
TwisT wrote:Completely disagree with this Afro

Tactics are one of the most important things for the smaller teams to be able to compete with the bigger teams. Smaller tactics will play into the hands of the bigger clubs

It might be a good joke of "RVP x2" but that is what it feels like. We will see come tomorrow but I have RVP marked all game by Soriano, which enables my defenders to concentrate on their usual game.......

So if I get the results and there are RVP x 2, how do you expect me to feel? It is not sour grapes, but what you are saying doesn't work. Smaller teams marking the bigger teams star players never works.

But with smaller tactics, you wouldn't have been able to put that tactic in in as detail and it would have been even more a case of RVP meaning goals.

What I would say is that your tactics need to reflect a player strengths. Soriano is not a man marker at all and has never done anything IRL to suggest that is a job he would excel at. So that wouldn't necessarily take RVP out of the game. It may just take Soriano out of the game far more than it effects RVP.

I accept that noone knew Rodwell was a decent man marker until he did the job on David Silva earlier in the season, and before that, having Rodwell man marking may have counted against you. Soriano may well be the best man marker in the world, but we can only base ratings on what we see IRL

Imagine if Cherries told Heskey to get on the end of every cross with diving headers at goal, or volleys from the edge of the area. Would that mean you would instantly give him more goals, or would you think to yourself, Heskey cannot do any of that.

You also have to scout the other managers. For instance, Hero relies on his attacking prowess. CF thinks getting the ball up to Lopez and Huntelaar is enough. Sometimes all you need to do is counter the odd move and you should theoretically win.

by **ADMIN** Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:12 pm

TBF with that many at the back any team would just do long range efforts and the ball will ricochet in the goal or the goalie won't be able to see it until its in the net.

by cherriesfna Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:13 pm

mandanda is a monster

by FIFA Diva Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:13 pm

The length is getting absurd and if people say they don't skim most of it then I am sorry but you are telling fibs.
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No I read everyones tactics even the subs part which is normally right at the bottom if you look at my reasons they will clearly show I read tactics.

Twist I've seen your offer but waiting to give others a chance.

by **ADMIN** Mon 13 Feb 2012, 4:13 pm

I had Chiellini man mark RVP in the top of the table clash.
Someone had him down to score a hat trick.

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