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Post by nathan Sat 11 Feb 2012, 3:35 pm

First topic message reminder :

Looking forward to the game, had no idea they had that much snow. Pitch doesn't look too good!

EDIT: Got to comment on Guscutt's scarf, it's soooo bad!!


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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:50 pm

Maybe we'll try and play some rugby next half now?
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Post by overlordofthewest Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:50 pm

Fair reflection of the game. Italy with twice as many points as England.

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Post by TycroesOsprey Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:51 pm

Why is Sonia so rubbish mad

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Post by Biltong Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:51 pm

PJHolybloke wrote:
nathan wrote:
PJHolybloke wrote:Get Youngs off!!

He's doing my feckin head in, any more ponderous and he'll be needing a feckin deck chair. England - Italy Match thread - Page 5 2650018817

he isn't doing anywhere near as bad as you think!

England just aren't getting any quick ball from Youngs, just like last week, it all looks so slow and premeditated they're having to force the game to get anywhere and right now they're getting nowhere.

England will go down today, I kind of expected it this morning. England - Italy Match thread - Page 5 346548009
Well what do you expect they are frozen in place.
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Post by nathan Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:51 pm

PJHolybloke wrote:
nathan wrote:
PJHolybloke wrote:Get Youngs off!!

He's doing my feckin head in, any more ponderous and he'll be needing a feckin deck chair. England - Italy Match thread - Page 5 2650018817

he isn't doing anywhere near as bad as you think!

England just aren't getting any quick ball from Youngs, just like last week, it all looks so slow and premeditated they're having to force the game to get anywhere and right now they're getting nowhere.

England will go down today, I kind of expected it this morning. England - Italy Match thread - Page 5 346548009

i see your pinning it all on Youngs which is complete bull.

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Post by Shifty Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:51 pm

Woah! game on now! Yahoo

Jesus the Italian relatives in Aberavon will be bouncing, lol.
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Post by Knackeredknees Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:51 pm

gnollbeast wrote:
Knackeredknees wrote:Am amazed by how many Welsh posters want England to lose, then get all shirty if we dont bow down and support them or dare to support their opposition


Bollox we are our own worse problem

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AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON...

I would put all the Welsh ones on but this site only has so much bandwidth

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Post by Cari Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:51 pm

Nathan - unfortunately the Six Nations does bring out the odd unsavoury poster. I just hope that England come out and respond to those two tries because then we'll have a good game on. On my Sportsguru picks, I've got England to win, so...

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Post by majesticimperialman Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:51 pm

Italy 12 England 6 at half time.

Some more defending from England, and becausae England are trying to force the game.

Lets hope for a better 40 minutes in the second half.

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Post by nathan Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:51 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Maybe we'll try and play some rugby next half now?

you never know!

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Post by Shifty Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:52 pm

TycroesOsprey wrote:Why is Sonia so rubbish mad
I agree but the players wont snap at her because shes blonde.

Jacques Brunel is 58 according to Wiki, yet he looks about 30 Erm
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Post by gnollbeast Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:52 pm

Cari wrote:Nathan - unfortunately the Six Nations does bring out the odd unsavoury poster. I just hope that England come out and respond to those two tries because then we'll have a good game on. On my Sportsguru picks, I've got England to win, so...

The other 99% of Welsh people feel the opposite way.

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Post by gowales Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:52 pm

I'd bring Ben Morgan on for impact. Dowson has looked under powered again.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:52 pm

Italy are absolutely no mugs at home.

I think that the ref has made some interesting decisions but he hasnt had a bad game so far imo
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Post by Biltong Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:52 pm

I think I predicted england by 12.
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Post by Cari Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:53 pm

Gnollbeast - well, I never was one to fit in and follow like every bugger else. Very Happy

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Post by Gibson Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:54 pm

nathan wrote:
Gibson wrote:UNBELIEVABLE! 2 trys in 2 mins. New Italy spanking New England atm.

spanking, 6 points really?

For Italy, at this stage in their development - yes. 2 x tries for Italy is showing they are changing their game and its great to watch. Long way to go yet Nathan. I still fancy England to react and win. Big test.

I agree that there is a bit of anti-English sheet on this thread. WHY? England have a new coach (good geezer) and a new, youngish team. Give them a break lads.

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Post by Knackeredknees Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:54 pm

So two lucky Bounces and all of a sudden Italy are battering us. Its only half time i would may save any gloating until the final whistle or if we win you will look a little bit stupid

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Post by gnollbeast Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:54 pm

Playing at Lazio's/Roma's world cup Italia 90 stadium.

70,000+ capacity

That's more like it!!!!

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Post by Cari Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:54 pm

OMG! Gussett is praising Italy!? I bet John Inversnail wouldn't be!

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Post by Shifty Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:54 pm

Cari wrote:Gnollbeast - well, I never was one to fit in and follow like every bugger else. Very Happy

Anyone who lives in Cardiff but supports the Ospreys... Whistle
I'll stop there Laugh
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Post by Pot Hale Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:55 pm

Knackeredknees wrote:Am amazed by how many Welsh and Irish posters want England to lose, then get all shirty if we dont bow down and support them or dare to support their opposition


Bollox we are our own worse problem

In a 'sudden death' style comp like 6N another team's loss is your own team's gain.

For Welsh fans, If England lose, then only Wales can win the Triple Crown/Grand Slam.

For Ireland fans, well maybe they won't finish fourth after all.....

By the same logic, will you support Ireland and Scotland in the next two matches?







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Post by gnollbeast Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:55 pm

No longer will the English mention Fiji beating Wales...

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Post by Full Credit Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:55 pm

Pleased for Italy but they're far from the finished article, in general there's too many forced passes and aimless kicking. If Italy can get their fair share of possession and play it tight there's no reason they can't sneak this.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:55 pm

I had it as a close game with England winning. Still can happen but that last 2 minutes will really bump Italy up.
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Post by Shifty Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:56 pm

What I hate about Sonia is even when were having a fantastic game of rugby, all she wants to do is bring up anything controversial or petty, instead of focusing on the positive aspects of the game. She seems to have no idea what she's looking at.


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Post by Biltong Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:56 pm

Knackeredknees wrote:So two lucky Bounces and all of a sudden Italy are battering us. Its only half time i would may save any gloating until the final whistle or if we win you will look a little bit stupid
Unfortunately the game is often won and lost by those little things mate.
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Post by eirebilly Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:57 pm

Italy showed some good signs last week against France. Castro is a huge loss for Italy so i imagine that England will target the scrums for penalty's
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Post by Cari Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:57 pm

England are a new team, they're starting again and building for the next RWC...it'll come. This is only their second game with the new set up. I don't know what our reason will be if we lose to England... censored

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Post by Guest Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:57 pm

We're often told by England fans on here that it is their business if they want to support the team that Wales is playing. And why should they support Wales? etc., etc. They have a point really as why would they support Wales when they're not Welsh??? Therefore the opposite is also true: why should anyone support England if they are not English? People will support who they like. Let them get on with it.

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Post by Biltong Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:57 pm

gnollbeast wrote:No longer will the English mention Fiji beating Wales...
Shocked When? Whistle
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Post by Standulstermen Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:57 pm

Some very over sensitive posts on this thread. Most fans support italy against anyone but their own team.

Im worried about playing Italy on their first 120mins in this tournament.

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Post by nathan Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:57 pm

gnollbeast wrote:No longer will the English mention Fiji beating Wales...

Why?

Does England losing to Italy somehow make that result void? You really do need to grow up

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Post by gnollbeast Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:57 pm

Where is HERSH?

This "building" thing is nonsense. Select your best XV. England don't exactly have a shortage of players!!!

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Post by gnollbeast Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:58 pm

nathan wrote:
gnollbeast wrote:No longer will the English mention Fiji beating Wales...

Why?

Does England losing to Italy somehow make that result void? You really do need to grow up

Touchy touchy. Can't wait for the turkey stuffing on the 25th.

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Post by Knackeredknees Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:58 pm

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Knackeredknees wrote:So two lucky Bounces and all of a sudden Italy are battering us. Its only half time i would may save any gloating until the final whistle or if we win you will look a little bit stupid
Unfortunately the game is often won and lost by those little things mate.

True but some of the reaction so far would have Italy beating us up all over the park and were really lucky to only be 6 points behind.

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Post by nathan Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:58 pm

Griff wrote:We're often told by England fans on here that it is their business if they want to support the team that Wales is playing. And why should they support Wales? etc., etc. They have a point really as why would they support Wales when they're not Welsh??? Therefore the opposite is also true: why should anyone support England if they are not English? People will support who they like. Let them get on with it.

Please point me to these posts, if their "often" you shouldnt find them hard to find...

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Post by PJHolybloke Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:58 pm

nathan wrote:
PJHolybloke wrote:
nathan wrote:
PJHolybloke wrote:Get Youngs off!!

He's doing my feckin head in, any more ponderous and he'll be needing a feckin deck chair. England - Italy Match thread - Page 5 2650018817

he isn't doing anywhere near as bad as you think!

England just aren't getting any quick ball from Youngs, just like last week, it all looks so slow and premeditated they're having to force the game to get anywhere and right now they're getting nowhere.

England will go down today, I kind of expected it this morning. England - Italy Match thread - Page 5 346548009

i see your pinning it all on Youngs which is complete bull.

It's bull saying I'm pinning it all on Youngs, but as the main distributor it's where it starts isn't it? Foden is also having a poor game, does that make you feel better?
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Post by slartibartfast Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:58 pm

I would say I want England to lose because it's for the welsh teams benefit.

But I can't
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Post by gowales Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:59 pm

But this is the Best English xv...

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Post by eirebilly Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:59 pm

Standulstermen wrote:Some very over sensitive posts on this thread. Most fans support italy against anyone but their own team.

Im worried about playing Italy on their first 120mins in this tournament.

Yes, as am i. If they play like this against Ireland, i think that Ireland will struggle.
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Post by nathan Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:59 pm

PJHolybloke wrote:
nathan wrote:
PJHolybloke wrote:
nathan wrote:
PJHolybloke wrote:Get Youngs off!!

He's doing my feckin head in, any more ponderous and he'll be needing a feckin deck chair. England - Italy Match thread - Page 5 2650018817

he isn't doing anywhere near as bad as you think!

England just aren't getting any quick ball from Youngs, just like last week, it all looks so slow and premeditated they're having to force the game to get anywhere and right now they're getting nowhere.

England will go down today, I kind of expected it this morning. England - Italy Match thread - Page 5 346548009

i see your pinning it all on Youngs which is complete bull.

It's bull saying I'm pinning it all on Youngs, but as the main distributor it's where it starts isn't it? Foden is also having a poor game, does that make you feel better?

lol, couple of mistakes (which all players in all games make) and there having a poor game!!

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Post by TJ1 Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:59 pm

come on Italy :-) it will be a huge triumph for them to beat England - they are getting there to be competitive in the 6N and its only good for the sport.

england? ruck, fight for the ball, get some urgency into the game


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Post by Shifty Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:59 pm

gnollbeast wrote:No longer will the English mention Fiji beating Wales...
But they will no doubt mention Samoa, Romania, Canada and all the others? Whistle
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Post by Gibson Sat 11 Feb 2012, 4:59 pm

An Italian win, an Irish win(yeah right) and a Scottish win, would bring this 6-N to boiling-point. Too many fans taking things for granted. There is not much between the lot of them. The French stand out. The rest? Anything can happen between them.

I love the 6-N.
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Post by Cymroglan Sat 11 Feb 2012, 5:00 pm

France Ireland game subject to pitch inspection.

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Post by Cari Sat 11 Feb 2012, 5:00 pm

OK guys, chill out a bit, let's focus on THIS game. What's gone before isn't important right now.


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Post by BlueNote Sat 11 Feb 2012, 5:00 pm

I wouldn't count England out of this game yet.

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Post by Knackeredknees Sat 11 Feb 2012, 5:00 pm

Griff wrote:We're often told by England fans on here that it is their business if they want to support the team that Wales is playing. And why should they support Wales? etc., etc. They have a point really as why would they support Wales when they're not Welsh??? Therefore the opposite is also true: why should anyone support England if they are not English? People will support who they like. Let them get on with it.
That is true Griff, however our default setting is not ABE

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Post by nathan Sat 11 Feb 2012, 5:00 pm

Will be interesting to see how England react to this. Hopefully something positive!

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