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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 15 Feb 2012, 9:12 am

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Discussion thread for today's ODI. Can England go 2-0 up to ensure at least a draw from this series, or will Pakistan make it all square?


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Post by Biltong Wed 15 Feb 2012, 11:48 am

You think Ajmal would come on now?
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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 15 Feb 2012, 11:56 am

Review against KP...

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Post by legendkillar Wed 15 Feb 2012, 11:56 am

Is there any turn in pitch?

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 15 Feb 2012, 11:58 am

Survives. Pakistan lose their review.

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 15 Feb 2012, 12:01 pm

Not sure, legend, I'm not watching.

Afridi is a bloody canny bowler isn't he? Very, very good.

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Post by LivinginItaly Wed 15 Feb 2012, 12:01 pm

Good start so far by England. Need to start trying to rotate the strike more by picking up the singles against the spinners

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Post by LivinginItaly Wed 15 Feb 2012, 12:04 pm

Let off for cook, dropped by the wk

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 15 Feb 2012, 12:07 pm

Akmal drops Cook. Shock horror.

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Post by LivinginItaly Wed 15 Feb 2012, 12:09 pm

KP gone

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 15 Feb 2012, 12:09 pm

KP gone lbw to Ajmal. That took long...3 balls.

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Post by legendkillar Wed 15 Feb 2012, 12:18 pm

Ajmal has had KP in his pocket all series. I think his problem has been that he has tried to be too busy in the crease and mis-reads the length as a result.

Poor KP, spin has been one hell of a nemesis.

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Post by hampo17 Wed 15 Feb 2012, 12:39 pm

Cook doing another great job of anchoring the innings, scoring at a decent rate as well.

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 15 Feb 2012, 12:54 pm

Trott gone to Cheema, he will be disappointed with that. Let's see if Ravi can kick on from the 1st ODI.

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Post by beshocked Wed 15 Feb 2012, 12:58 pm

Looks like England are relying on Cook yet again to score big...

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Post by legendkillar Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:02 pm

A dropped catch. That's the 2nd one today. Bit sloppy from Pakistan.

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:18 pm

Hopefully these two will build until about the 40th where it will be time for some shots to be played and reach 260ish? Or do we need more?

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Post by hampo17 Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:23 pm

At this stage I'd be dissapointed to only get 260, some big hitters down the order so that has to be the minimum.

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Post by packofwolves Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:24 pm

You know lads I'm starting to think I'm watching a replay of the first ODI here....serene progress, Cook anchoring the innings, easy singles and good placement. Lets hope we have a slightly better last 15 this time and post 260-290.

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Post by packofwolves Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:26 pm

Powerplay time so here comes Ajmal...these next few overs should tell us a lot about the total we can expect to post.....

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Post by alfie Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:28 pm

Comfortable progress today ... again Smile

Cook in form (sort of goes without saying) and Ravi doing a job so far...

Hope the later batsmen can kick on a bit better this time as we probably shouldn't expect Pakistan to be skittled for 130 again ... another score of 260 would put plenty of pressure on but that might be hard to reach unless one of the hitters gets going.

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:30 pm

270 would be a treat, and a winning total in my eyes.

I'd take 260, though. Be good if one of Morgan Kieswetter or Patel can get motoring.

Excellent from Cook, again.

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Post by legendkillar Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:32 pm

Cook looking very good. Can't wait for the highlights. Good to see he has put the Test series behind him and playing into form in ODI's.

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Post by alfie Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:40 pm

So far so good for the Batting Powerplay ...

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:40 pm

Ha, yeah alongside spin bowling it is our other nemesis!

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Post by hampo17 Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:45 pm

Really enjoying this performance from "Captain Cook" showed what a class act he is. As you said Fists I'd like to see CK, Morgan or Patel get some runs if they get chance otherwise I'll still have the concern of who steps up if Cook doesn't score runs.

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Post by alfie Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:45 pm

Cook to 99 ...

(260 plus looking good now)

Back on strike now : Another hundred?

Yes Yahoo

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:49 pm

another brilliant innings from Cook, wonder whether Botham (who didn't have him in the side) is feeling a bit silly by now...

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Post by legendkillar Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:49 pm

Cook reaches another ton. What a player. clap

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:50 pm

Cook gone as I write that, still a very good knock clap

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Post by Offstumpyorker Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:51 pm

well done cook, another Ton, why didnt he bat like this in the tests.

As i type he gets out , Doh

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Post by alfie Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:52 pm

And Afridi gets the break ! Cook gone at last.

But he's done his job ... surely the others can push on to the required total now?

Would like to see Morgan fire today...

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Post by Offstumpyorker Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:52 pm

I think the Target would be about 260-270 from this point.

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Post by dummy_half Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:53 pm

Good solid platform built by Cook, this time with adequate support from the other top order players. Can we push on towards 100 more in the final 10 overs, or is it now time for a typical England collapse?

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Post by packofwolves Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:54 pm

Great knock from Cooky. Along with Trott he's one of those guys that always looks disappointed with himself for getting out...no matte how many he's scored!

Fingers crossed that the Morgan show gets into full swing now. Would still take 260 though.

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Post by legendkillar Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:54 pm

Cook has built the innings. The middle order really need to build on this.

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Post by alfie Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:58 pm

May end up a bit short of those targets - not that easy for new batsmen against the spinners .

I'm tipping 253 , which I think will be enough to win.

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Post by packofwolves Wed 15 Feb 2012, 1:59 pm

Morgan looks totally bereft of confidence right now :/

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Post by LivinginItaly Wed 15 Feb 2012, 2:02 pm

see us getting between 250 and 260

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 15 Feb 2012, 2:08 pm

I think at 250 it'd be in the balance, 260+ makes us favourites.

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Post by alfie Wed 15 Feb 2012, 2:12 pm

Can't see Pakistan chasing down 250 under lights on this - few balls keeping low , won't be easy at all.

Of course England have some work to do to get 250 yet ...might be only 245.

Still be enough.

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Post by packofwolves Wed 15 Feb 2012, 2:15 pm

Nice lofted drive over extra cover from Morgan. Its stopped before the boundary but that'll give him a bit of a boost. He's on 15 now.

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Post by LivinginItaly Wed 15 Feb 2012, 2:17 pm

Said at the beginning of play that I would be happy with 250. After seeing this innings, and given that the ball should move around a bit more under the lights, I think that 250 will be more than enough to win the game.

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Post by packofwolves Wed 15 Feb 2012, 2:20 pm

250 should be plenty on this pitch, assuming theres a little movement under lights. Cheema has been bowling beautifully at the death here. Two very good overs making it hard for England to accelerate.

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Post by Offstumpyorker Wed 15 Feb 2012, 2:20 pm

I think i was a bit optomistic for 260-270, looks more like its going to be around 250.

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Post by JDizzle Wed 15 Feb 2012, 2:23 pm

Think England could have done a bit better in these last ten overs, but a score of 250 would make us slight favourites with the the ball nipping about, with our bowling line up and Pakistan's frail batting.

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Post by packofwolves Wed 15 Feb 2012, 2:29 pm

Don't underestimate how well Pakistan bowled in those last ten overs. 250 is a good score on that pitch. There was a bit of turn for the spinners and some uneven bounce at times. 250 should be enough to defend if we bowl well.

Encouraging from Morgan at the end too, started to look much more like himself.

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Post by Offstumpyorker Wed 15 Feb 2012, 2:29 pm

could definately done a bit better from 45 overs on as they really needed to up the SR to 8/9 an over and could have done that with wickets in hand.

250 is about par for the wicket though and so it will be interesting t see if pakistan implode again.

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 15 Feb 2012, 2:37 pm

Imagine it will be tight. The start is important, a lot will depend on the score after 10 overs. 50-0 and Pakistan favourites, 40-2 and England are in the driving seat.

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Post by dummy_half Wed 15 Feb 2012, 2:44 pm

190-odd for 3 after 40 overs and only reaching 250-4, with the other wicket being the last ball of the innings - a bit too low risk or very well bowled and fielded?

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Post by hampo17 Wed 15 Feb 2012, 2:49 pm

Ajmaal went at 5 an over today, quite shocked when I saw that on Cricinfo. Good score but England need to bowl as well as Monday otherwise Pakistan will get very close.

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