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Post by HERSH Sun 26 Feb 2012, 8:40 am

First topic message reminder :

2013 bickering thread

OK, every year we see threads that actually contain really good rugby discussion derailed by the ongoing Wales vs England bickering and WUMMING! I will name no names. I guess we have all been guilty.

Since most of the general bickering comes from the respective fans of Wales and England ; I thought I would create a thread for it in an effort to keep decent rugby discussion relatively WUM free in other threads.

Let it commence
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Post by mystiroakey Wed 25 Jul 2012, 5:59 pm

that company needs to just close down. the amount of firms we have in this country that should have won that tender- its shocking

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Post by jimmyinthewell68 Thu 26 Jul 2012, 7:19 am

Wales 26 England 9 next year

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Post by LordDowlais Thu 26 Jul 2012, 7:57 am

mystiroakey wrote:Are you really telling me that you lot have jobs?

I knew this was coming. laughing

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Post by damage_13 Thu 26 Jul 2012, 9:36 am

mystiroakey wrote:England are 4th in the world, We must do better. On the other hand wales are doing very well at 6th considering there small population and lack of genetics

whats wrong with their genetics..? it can't be all BAAAaaad

drumroll

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Post by sugarNspikes Thu 26 Jul 2012, 9:38 am

jimmyinthewell68 wrote:Wales 26 England 9 next year
Is that the number of Englishmen in each training squad?


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Post by anotherworldofpain Thu 26 Jul 2012, 10:11 am

mystiroakey wrote:that company needs to just close down. the amount of firms we have in this country that should have won that tender- its shocking

They get paid £300Million for the contract. They need to get 10,000 security personel for 21 days at £8.20 per hour approximately.

The maths on that add up to less than £20million in staff costs. Anyone in an HR operation can tell to you that 80% of the cost is staff wage. So if they only employ 7,000 people and they say they make a £50million loss. Where did the thick end of £250Million go? You don't developing new systems for the three week process and if they employ 200 times that staff level on normal basis then they don't need it either.

The questions asked about "Is it embarrassing" make nice headlines, but miss the point that this is tax payer money that go missing. They should be made to pay back every penny.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 26 Jul 2012, 10:17 am

well firstly the staffing cost would be significantly ore than £8.20- look at 12 quid across the board- as many would have to be subbed, managers and team leaders are needed and the ni cost which adds 10% to the staffing.. the cost of just sourceing the staffing that amount would also cost a pretty ..

But anyway nothing adds up. The fact is I do many tenders and they are tough- but you just cant get it that wrong at that level

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Post by damage_13 Thu 26 Jul 2012, 10:18 am

AWOP your English has improved muchos.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Thu 26 Jul 2012, 10:25 am

Sadly your Spanish is lagging mate.

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Post by damage_13 Thu 26 Jul 2012, 10:27 am

The Official 2013 Wales v England bickering thread. - Page 2 29gncd1

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Thu 26 Jul 2012, 10:38 am

Very Happy

Muchos is for countable nouns. His English ha mejorado mucho.

As a man from Barcelona I thought you would've known that. Maybe that bang over the head by Basil unknowingly affected your Spanish.

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Thu 26 Jul 2012, 10:44 am

I refuse to comment on this thread.
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Post by Effervescing Elephant Thu 26 Jul 2012, 10:44 am

Bugger.
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Post by damage_13 Thu 26 Jul 2012, 11:37 am

Carpe Diem wrote:Bugger.

sorry all the sheep have been taken.

genetics y'see.

Am I alone in thinking that the RWC in England will also see the Scots, Welsh and Irish punching above their weight due to familiarity of locations and increased support (due to ease of access for fans).


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Post by Comfort Thu 26 Jul 2012, 12:22 pm

I'd like to clear up this confusion about the Welsh being sheep-shaggers. Its a common misconception that the welsh love their sheep.

This is actually incorrect. It actually came about due to the english habits of sheep-shagging back in ye olden days and the differnce in the relevant criminal penalty for stealing or shagging a sheep.

Bad in ye olde' days, in the english countryside, if a man was caught stealing a sheep, he'd have his hands cut off, if he was caught nailing a sheep, he'd only lose a finger. The welsh, thieving little buggars we are, cottoned on to this fact. So, whenever a welshman was caught stealing sheep in England, he'd simply say he was shagging them to lose a finger, instead of a hand.

You can check this online.

Also, you might want to check the ratio of sheep:people in wales and then england. Wink

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 26 Jul 2012, 12:25 pm

comfort what a load of tosh mate...

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Post by Comfort Thu 26 Jul 2012, 12:29 pm

Check for yourself mysti! Cool

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 26 Jul 2012, 1:08 pm

Yeah lol- its kinda funny tho

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jul 2012, 1:11 pm

How very dare you Comfort.

As a full blooded Culchie i object to any person taking heritage rights of sheep shagging away from us.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 26 Jul 2012, 1:17 pm

Comfort, make sure Billy's definition of 'slapping' is the same as yours...

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jul 2012, 1:20 pm

The Official 2013 Wales v England bickering thread. - Page 2 810156456 you feicar lucky Wink
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Post by anotherworldofpain Thu 26 Jul 2012, 2:15 pm

Don't you think the English are so pompous and too structured and reserved to play rugby with enough of the freedom to ever trascend to true success? and the Welsh are overly ambitious and have aspiration far higher than their limited ability will ever allow?

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu 26 Jul 2012, 2:20 pm

Controversial, AWOP Shocked

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Post by damage_13 Thu 26 Jul 2012, 3:09 pm

anotherworldofpain wrote:Don't you think the English are so pompous and too structured and reserved to play rugby with enough of the freedom to ever trascend to true success?

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no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2USK9DolxU

next stupid question Very Happy

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 26 Jul 2012, 3:10 pm

AWOP can you just admit that you support NZ so we can attck you on your team rather than for other reasons!!

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Post by anotherworldofpain Thu 26 Jul 2012, 3:14 pm

this is the wales/ENG bicker forum. I support ENG.

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu 26 Jul 2012, 3:15 pm

damage_13 wrote:
anotherworldofpain wrote:Don't you think the English are so pompous and too structured and reserved to play rugby with enough of the freedom to ever trascend to true success?

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no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2USK9DolxU

next stupid question Very Happy
Amazing how much success England had with the OTT kick - great weapon. And Greenwood was just majestic back then

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Post by damage_13 Thu 26 Jul 2012, 3:24 pm

I watch that vid from time to time, it makes me grin like an idiot, gives me a tingling punch-the-air feeling in my chest, a tear in my eye remembering watching every England match with my late father.

Happy times.

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jul 2012, 3:50 pm

damage_13 wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2USK9DolxU


Thanks for the link mate. Quality stuff. I am guilty of forgetting sometimes just how good England were back then. Will Greenwood is one of my all time favourites.
That was simply a stunning team and a real joy to watch in flow.
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Post by anotherworldofpain Thu 26 Jul 2012, 4:00 pm

Yes it can be reassuring even in the darkest times of great despair to be able to looking back on one moment when things were good, isn't it? You have to hoping there are some good times for the new generation who might not remember back then so they too can believe.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 26 Jul 2012, 4:01 pm

With england supporters like you mate- we dont need the welsh

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Post by eirebilly Thu 26 Jul 2012, 4:12 pm

I have to admit that i really wanted England to lose every match back then but would always find myself rushing home to watch them as i secretly enjoyed watching them Wink

Simply a quality side. Some of those Cohen and Robinson runs were breathtaking.
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Post by Morgannwg Thu 26 Jul 2012, 5:44 pm

eirebilly wrote:
damage_13 wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2USK9DolxU


Thanks for the link mate. Quality stuff. I am guilty of forgetting sometimes just how good England were back then. Will Greenwood is one of my all time favourites.
That was simply a stunning team and a real joy to watch in flow.

Poor video. Too much Wilkinson kicks or drop goals. Made me snore.

England can still play rugby like that, they just don't do it very often. Away against France this year there was plenty of good rugby on display from England.
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Post by LordDowlais Thu 26 Jul 2012, 5:57 pm

Here's one my old man still harps on about:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVK1XU8k2AA

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Post by mowgli Thu 26 Jul 2012, 6:30 pm

anotherworldofpain wrote:Don't you think the English are so pompous and too structured and reserved to play rugby with enough of the freedom to ever trascend to true success? and the Welsh are overly ambitious and have aspiration far higher than their limited ability will ever allow?

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Whereas the Pomeranians, where you clearly hail from, have such poor communication skills on the pitch that they cannot understand each other

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 26 Jul 2012, 8:21 pm

well then the welshman bellamy just scored a goal for GB!!!!!

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Post by anotherworldofpain Thu 26 Jul 2012, 8:27 pm

I thought he was English like Joe Allen.

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Post by BamBam Fri 27 Jul 2012, 1:45 am

damage_13 wrote:
anotherworldofpain wrote:Don't you think the English are so pompous and too structured and reserved to play rugby with enough of the freedom to ever trascend to true success?

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no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2USK9DolxU

next stupid question Very Happy

That video is amazing. Cohen, Lewsey and Robinson look like they are in fast forward at times

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Post by anotherworldofpain Fri 27 Jul 2012, 9:32 am

Do you have slow buffering on your youtube?

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Fri 27 Jul 2012, 10:29 am

anotherworldofpain wrote:Do you have slow buffering on your youtube?

That sounds diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttyyyyyyyyyyyyy! Drool
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Post by nobbled Wed 01 Aug 2012, 12:16 pm

I miss Greenwood Sad
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Post by anotherworldofpain Mon 06 Aug 2012, 9:01 am

How many of the Olympics gold medals for Team GB have been won by Welsh athletes? Would England be better off declaring independence from Wales and going it alone with Scotland?

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 06 Aug 2012, 11:38 am

We've had one in the cycling - Geraint Thomas. That's the lot, I think.

Apparently if Yorkshire was competing alone in the Olympics, it would be tenth in the medal table.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Mon 06 Aug 2012, 11:40 am

anotherworldofpain wrote:How many of the Olympics gold medals for Team GB have been won by Welsh athletes? Would England be better off declaring independence from Wales and going it alone with Scotland?

Per capita (is that the right spelling) Scotland and Wales are actually streets ahead of the English.
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Post by ScarletSpiderman Mon 06 Aug 2012, 11:42 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:We've had one in the cycling - Geraint Thomas. That's the lot, I think.

Apparently if Yorkshire was competing alone in the Olympics, it would be tenth in the medal table.

I thought it was Gar-ant Thomas, thats what they kept calling him!!!
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Post by sugarNspikes Mon 06 Aug 2012, 11:53 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:We've had one in the cycling - Geraint Thomas. That's the lot, I think.

Apparently if Yorkshire was competing alone in the Olympics, it would be tenth in the medal table.
Very Happy Yorkshire Independence!

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 06 Aug 2012, 11:54 am

Geoff Boycott for President! notworthy

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Post by HERSH Mon 06 Aug 2012, 12:31 pm

I had the displeasure of going to watch Team GB play South Korea at MS on Saturday, Wendyball is such a dull game to watch when compared to Rugby, but there was a moment of joy when the very Welsh people next to me started singing GSTQ.

They were loving it. Very Happy

It got me thinking maybe they should sing it at all rugby games too as well as their less well known anthem?

We're all British at the end of the day.
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Post by ScarletSpiderman Mon 06 Aug 2012, 12:34 pm

HERSH wrote:I had the displeasure of going to watch Team GB play South Korea at MS on Saturday, Wendyball is such a dull game to watch when compared to Rugby, but there was a moment of joy when the very Welsh people next to me started singing GSTQ.They were loving it. Very Happy

It got me thinking maybe they should sing it at all rugby games too as well as their less well known anthem?

We're all British at the end of the day.

laughing Why lie? They either were not very welsh or they didn't sing it (as a very welsh person wouldn't class themselves as British)
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Post by sugarNspikes Mon 06 Aug 2012, 12:41 pm

Surely you can be very Welsh and very British? I don't think they're mutually exclusive.

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