wales are only great team when they win against australia, south africa,allblacks.

miteyironpaw wrote:I don't have a low opinion of Wales prospects.

I have a high opinion of their ability to be overly optimistic based on very little tangible evidence of progress.

At the moment you'd think Wales had won the RWC, rather than come fourth, beating only Ireland, then being mid-way through the 6N (having lost to Australia at home in the mean time), having beaten Ireland courtesy of a poor refereeing decision, Scotland by not much more than a disallowed Scottish try, and a scratch England side by virtue of another refereeing debacle.

If Wales want to go on tour to the SH and expect to win, on this evidence they'd better pack their referees in their kit bag along with their rabbit's foot and 4-leaf clovers.

Taylorman wrote:Maybe Mitey but I think one of the reasons Oz and SA and even France for that matter have many more wins over us is that they play us a lot more than the other NH sides. Familiarity breeds confidence...to a point. And this is what the Summer tours hopefully do- break down that perception that SH are somehow superior. By tours end I reckon the North will have real ideas in breaking down the barriers...

wales are only great team when they win against australia, south africa,allblacks.

maestegmafia wrote:Its a good point AD, but I still think it is very important that Wales start regularly beating SH teams and become more ambitious with the results and position in the ranks of World Rugby.

SafeAsMilk wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:Its a good point AD, but I still think it is very important that Wales start regularly beating SH teams and become more ambitious with the results and position in the ranks of World Rugby.

Beating the Tri-Nations occasionally would be a start. What is it, two wins and a draw (all at home and all Aus) in 10 years? Maybe beating them once away would be progress. Too early to start talking seriously about beating them regularly. Baby steps mate.

miteyironpaw wrote:

SafeAsMilk wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:Its a good point AD, but I still think it is very important that Wales start regularly beating SH teams and become more ambitious with the results and position in the ranks of World Rugby.

Beating the Tri-Nations occasionally would be a start. What is it, two wins and a draw (all at home and all Aus) in 10 years? Maybe beating them once away would be progress. Too early to start talking seriously about beating them regularly. Baby steps mate.

They almost won a few times Safe, surely that counts for something?

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Look at it this way. New Zealand are yet to beat this Welsh side.
They cant call themselves real world champions or the undisputed best side in the world until they conquer the side that beat Ireland, twice.

TycroesOsprey wrote:

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Look at it this way. New Zealand are yet to beat this Welsh side.
They cant call themselves real world champions or the undisputed best side in the world until they conquer the side that beat Ireland, twice.

three times, just saying

slartibartfast wrote:And dont forget Wales beat England last week because of the ref.

Must be some kind of conspiracy

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:

slartibartfast wrote:And dont forget Wales beat England last week because of the ref.

Must be some kind of conspiracy

Jeez so negative. Next thing youll be saying that Wales' top spot after 3 rounds is devalued.

PJHolybloke wrote:PM for Slartibartfast.

gregortree wrote:Slarti,
Wales team are looking even better after that shambles in Paris.
Reference your Welsh men on our shoulders, I'll quote Newton:
(approx) "If I have seen further, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants"

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:I think you´ll find that was Shane Williams who said that and not Newton.