Mayeather Explains "NO 50-50" With Pacquiao

tunes666 wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:

tunes666 wrote:there is no debate about it as far as I am concerned. All along the way Mayweather has dodged this fight.

From the silly drug testing, to when the drug testing was agreed and him saying it was too late, and now to see he thinks it should not be a 50/50 split.

The only time he showed an interest is when Manny had a poor showing (for Manny) in his last fight.

And I think he wants to see one more fight to assess if Manny is past his best.

He is all about the money and he knows his 0 is big bucks, and he will only take on fighters he knows he can beat. And Manny is a threat.

Where has Pacquiao agreed to testing?...Is he taking olympic style testing for Bradley? Nope

Pacquiao is the one not taking on any threats and is in no way or shape in form a threat to Floyd Mayweather.

FMW offered a 14 day gap (or what ever it was) and Manny still said no... in later negotiations Manny agreed to it but Floyd said it was too late and he was looking elsewhere..

Boxtthis wrote:I don't know how on earth real boxing fans, who want to see good boxing matches rather than hero worship their image of particular boxing 'stars' can support FMJ's behaviour during these negotiations. While I recognise that both sides (and the egos involved) have impacted on the situation, it seems to me that the Pacquiao camp have made numerous compromises (drug testing, money split) whereas FMJ has made none. In fact, he seems to continually move the goalposts.

I don't think for a second that he's scared to fight. I think he's confident of victory (and I think he should be), but it's his level of greed and focus on the financials that is the issue for me. I think most boxers would be satisfied that they were that they were challenging themselves to be the best they could be, as long as they were making a healthy sum (in this case a clear career high). But, Floyd isn't even satisfied with making the most money in history - he just has to dwarf his opponents earnings completely. I hope it's a negotiating tactic, because I want to see the fight, but I'm more inclined to believe that FMJ's ego and obsession with money has reached a point where he thinks that this is fair and deserved.

As I said, I don't know how any boxing fan can support this type of behaviour. It seems like the people who're pulling out ppv figures, etc in support of Floyds positions prefer to be fans of boxing's financial deals rather than it's fights. It's not all that dissimilar to people getting on an online forum, and fighting the corner of someone like Donald Trump for making a ruthless business deal. It's aspects such as the warrior spirit displayed and the notion of challenging skills and will against the best you can face that attract most of us to boxing. This seems to me to be almost completely missing from Floyd's approach.

tunes666 wrote:

ShahenshahG wrote:

tunes666 wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:

3 reasons why Pacquiao does not deserve a 50/50 split:

1) Lost his last fight

Errr I think you will find he won it. (regardless of if it was lucky)

2) Floyd Mayweather is the bigger draw

So let him have 60/40.. or 70/30...
Show me another fight out there the fans would rather see?, I think you will find this fight is the most money FMW will ever make, especially if he took it when Manny was flying... at that time everyone on the planet wanted to see it.

Why should Manny not also take some credit for bringing in such demand for the fight?

3) Pacquiao said he will take less money

And probebly would, but is 0% of paper view less?... or 0?

Alex Ariza a member of team Pacquiao said Mayweather is not to blame and Bob Arum is always in the way of making the fight happen.

In other words because Bob Arum does not want to take a cut that FMW tells him to take, then Bob Arum is in the way...

A Promoter is about making money, maybe if FMW wants the fight he would not ask for insulting demands against another boxer who has no problem filling seats.

FMW fans are so blinkered its untrue..

Alex Ariza was only underlining the fact that its not Manny that is bothered by taking less money but its the promoter, You dont think FMW knows that asking for %100 od the PPV is going to lead to a rejection?

And you just know that if Bob Arum just went with it, then FMW would just cook something else up to stop the fight.

Would he Flip - he would be making a huge chunk of around 100 million - he'd bite every arm in reach off.

But Even FMW would be making allot more money than he would do fighting the likes of Cotto... so why should he not treat Manny different? the reason the fight would generate so much is due to both fighters not just Money man.

The genius of PBF wrote:

Boxtthis wrote:I don't know how on earth real boxing fans, who want to see good boxing matches rather than hero worship their image of particular boxing 'stars' can support FMJ's behaviour during these negotiations. While I recognise that both sides (and the egos involved) have impacted on the situation, it seems to me that the Pacquiao camp have made numerous compromises (drug testing, money split) whereas FMJ has made none. In fact, he seems to continually move the goalposts.

I don't think for a second that he's scared to fight. I think he's confident of victory (and I think he should be), but it's his level of greed and focus on the financials that is the issue for me. I think most boxers would be satisfied that they were that they were challenging themselves to be the best they could be, as long as they were making a healthy sum (in this case a clear career high). But, Floyd isn't even satisfied with making the most money in history - he just has to dwarf his opponents earnings completely. I hope it's a negotiating tactic, because I want to see the fight, but I'm more inclined to believe that FMJ's ego and obsession with money has reached a point where he thinks that this is fair and deserved.

As I said, I don't know how any boxing fan can support this type of behaviour. It seems like the people who're pulling out ppv figures, etc in support of Floyds positions prefer to be fans of boxing's financial deals rather than it's fights. It's not all that dissimilar to people getting on an online forum, and fighting the corner of someone like Donald Trump for making a ruthless business deal. It's aspects such as the warrior spirit displayed and the notion of challenging skills and will against the best you can face that attract most of us to boxing. This seems to me to be almost completely missing from Floyd's approach.

Floyd Mayweather agreed to ringsize, gloves, paying 10m dollars over every pound over the limit and accepted 50/50 at the time even though Pacquiao was the smaller draw...Pacquiao has now said he will take less money, lost his last fight, Floyd Mayweather has given a fair fee of 40m.

Cotto, Hatton, De La Hoya etc had no problems dealing with Floyd Mayweather...Why have the 3 mentioned had problems negotiating with Pacquiao.

Why dont you read the link I gave you on Arum excuses...It is Pacquiao moving the goalposts which is why his team brought up the stupid stadium idea that gets magically made in late May and not May 5th.

Read between the lines the fact is no one has had problems dealing with Floyd Mayweather which is why Cotto took that fight over Pacquiao...Bob Arum already told a retired judge a mediator he did not want to negotiate a fight with Mayweather and would not return Golden Boy phone calls.

It doesn't matter what Floyd Mayweather offers...BOB ARUM AND TEAM PACQUIAO DONT WANT THE FIGHT!!!!!!