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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:48 am

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:26 pm

Parling carried much better than last week and our lineout was very solid with him and Croft as options. I actually thought we dominated the lineout which is some going.

I wouldn't look at Palmer personally, I'd love to see a good carrier like Garvey involved.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:27 pm

Should Botha carry on being picked? I cant see what he brings apart from a high work rate - would certainly have him behind Palmer - Lawes for me is our best lock and a shame he's been injured as would really suit the style we are looking to play now.

We could always get Tim Payne back...

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:27 pm

Where Wood will fit in will be interesting. I think Robshaw needs to have a big game next week. Whilst he is leading well he hasn't been playing that well.

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Post by stnick88 Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:28 pm

He has been solid for me. But wood could displace him soon.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:31 pm

He's been solid if unspectacular.....although he allows Croft to play his natural game where I'm not sure Wood would

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:33 pm

I agree with you on that Steven, think Robshaw has been a good leader and never puts in more than 110% but he isnt a natural no7 at all, and I dont think he's stoodout in any game so far.

Question I guess is would the rest of the team become worse if he left - personally don't think so as Wood is someone who really leads the same sort of way. Think he's a far, far better player than Robshaw too.

We do need a new no8 to emerge though as if Morgan gets injured we are back to square one again!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:39 pm

"Question I guess is would the rest of the team become worse if he left - personally don't think so as Wood is someone who really leads the same sort of way. Think he's a far, far better player than Robshaw too. "

Wood is far, far better than Robshaw?????

Give your head a shake, god you talk utter balls sometimes

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:42 pm

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French lost lineouts when servat came
On which is not something you would expect.

Only remember Parling have 1 carry of note . Be interested to see stats. Palmer was not on for long but carried quite well and is more physical option than Botha.

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Post by Guest Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:49 pm

I think wood is far superior to robshaw . Wood
Would have been captain and starting if he had not been injured.

Robshaw has been steady although today he did
Not do much. He deserves to keep his place but could lose it by the tour to south Africa.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:51 pm

Sorry Pooly, what I meant to say was that Robshaw is as good as McCaw. Was a typo.

I prefer Wood to Robshaw, think he's a better player, he was awesome for Saints today and would have been England captain if he wasnt injured. I like Robshaw, but he's not an international no7 and Croft is a better no6.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:52 pm

Gethin Jenkins (LH) (WAL)
Clarke Dermody (LH) (NZL)
Dan Murphy (LH) (ENG)
Sebastian Bruno (HK) (FRA)
Lee Mears (HK) (ENG)
Marc Jones (HK) (WAL)
Cencus Johnston (TH) (SAM)
Faan Rautenbach (TH) (RSA)
Jason Hobson (TH) (ENG)
Nathan Hines (LK/BS) (SCO)
Pascal Papé (FRA)
Dan Vickerman (AUS)
Chris Jack (NZL)
Alex Brown (ENG)
John Barclay (OS) (SCO)
Rodney So'oialo (N8/BS) (NZL)
Magnus Lund (OS/BS/N8) (ENG)
Jonathan Poff (OS/BS/N8) (NZL)
Chris Cusiter (SCO)
Scott Mathie (RSA)
Dave Walder (ENG)
Brian O'Driscoll (OC) (IRE)
Yannick Jauzion (IC/OC) (FRA)
Casey Laulala (OC) (NZL)
Tim Molenaar (OC) (NZL)
Clement Poitrenaud (FB/IC) (FRA)
Vincent Clerc (WG) (FRA)
Alesana Tuilagi (WG) (SAM)
Napolioni Nalaga (WG) (FIJ)
Rupeni Caucaunibuca (WG) (FIJ)
Mark van Gisbergen (FB/FH) (ENG)

All available at end of season.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:56 pm

I could understand the opinion he is better but far, far better is pretty stupid.

I love it how players seem to be higher rated for not playing than the players who actually play sometimes.

To be honest I find it hard to take your opinion seriously anyway Chris so don't take offence, I find you funny

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Post by Driver Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:03 pm

Kaino out for 6 months
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Post by Guest Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:10 pm

Bad news for nick. Lots of my boys coming back now like ousthuizen and carter etc

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:13 pm

Carter being injured on here a big blow got you matt.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:15 pm

Pooly, this is getting really childish now - I don't openly criticise your comments, yes I disagree with you, but some of the stuff you are saying is just getting pathetic and quite boring.

If you don't agree with me then fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion but there isnt a need for the stuff you've said to be honest and would be good to stop this sort of thing happening each time my opinion differs from yours OK


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:20 pm

Stop talking balls then and we'll be ok Wink

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:43 pm

Pooly man come on, no need for getting personal just because you disagree with someone,
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:01 am

Chris always brings the best out of me!

Match ratings from Telegraph, pretty nailed on imo:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/sixnations/9136996/France-v-England-how-the-players-rated.html

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:11 am

Pape gets the same as Ashton? A tad biased...

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Post by Driver Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:03 am

Tom Rees announces his retirement , such a shame was a great talent
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:04 am

Someone needs to tell chris!

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Post by Driver Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:07 am

I think it's best that he finds out himself
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Post by dammit_chris Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:07 am

Gutted for the bloke - some nice comments about him on the Wasps website, think it goes to show how highly everyone thought of him in rugby.

http://www.wasps.co.uk/news/wasps33022.ink

If it wasnt for injury I'm sure he'd have been England captain now.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:07 am

At least you have the knowledge that he was better than McCaw to fall back on Chris. Wink


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Post by dammit_chris Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:08 am

I do. Samaritans wont take my calls anymore!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:18 am

Pete could you direct me to where I could read about next years squad changes please.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:25 am

Steve, I posted it on the homepage a few weeks back. I have it saved at work and start work at one so I will re post it here at some point this afternoon. OK
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:29 am

I will find it. Just didn't wanna be looking in the wrong place

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:16 pm

Tried but can't find it. Repost it when you can please pete

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:28 pm

Players I'm looking to offload.

Not looking for much for them.

Ceri Jones
Aston Croall
Nathan Sharpe (requires a bit more than others)
Phil Burgess
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:45 pm

Who's Tom Rees??

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Post by stnick88 Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:53 pm

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3824_7589355,00.html


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:58 pm

Taylor looked tasty last season too, seeing some young guns step up. Good to see Brussow in there Smile

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:12 pm

All

These are a draft of the rules for next season. They are not final and may be tweaked. The only bits at this stage that are final are the squad sizes, and the scoring system.



Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be 22 years old or under as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1m for descriptive prediction
£0.5m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:22 pm

Also to clarify, any releases that you make to get your squad down to the required limit you will be compensated at the appropriate rate.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:42 pm

So for me the likes of Charlie matthews, George Merrick and the like don't have to be listed in my senior academy but can still play for me as they are Quins irl?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:45 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-union/news-comment/france-v-england--player-ratings-7561438.html

Much more realistic ratings for me, although bit harsh on Maestri and Poit.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:45 pm

If they are under 20 when the season starts that is correct. Similar to someone like Scott Spurling for me.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:48 pm

oh right just under 20. Okay that makes more sense.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:50 pm

It's just to protect the young players being poached by other managers in the game.

Thos ratings look a fairly accurate reflection of the game to me Luke. OK
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:05 pm

Very tough on Maestri, he had a good game. Was certainly better than Beauxis & Bonnaire for me. Pape/Maestri are building a pretty nasty pairing tbh, serious physical threat around the park.

Ashton must have been rated on that tackle alone as he was pretty poor elsewhere. He's really getting on my nerves with his attitude, he seems to do something really stupid every game.

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Post by stnick88 Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:06 pm

turning in to the new Delon Armitage.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:08 pm

Armitage usually backs it up with a few good performances though, we're just getting the attitude form Ashton!

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Post by stnick88 Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:15 pm

true!

Heard Anscombe had a good game v Bulls.

Good to see Basson in there, gona have to start him next game over JP I think.

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:51 pm

Bonnaire was good yesterday. Made loads of tackles and work rate was excellent.

Think those ratings are much better luke. First quiet game for Maestri in this 6 nations. Did not even notice he was playing until 2nd half.

Ashton is massively out of sorts and was doing a good impression of Ben youngs and Delon petulance

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:12 pm

Have you read these ones!!:

http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/mar/11/france-england-player-ratings-six-nations?cat=sport&type=article

Sharples a 2!!!

A win away to France, nobody deserves those kind of scores.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:23 pm

I get the feeling that some of the press have unrealistic expectations and unless a team is flinging the ball around and carving the opposition open at every opportunity they don't see them as having played well.

He gave Barritt a 5 on the basis that his defence is a given. Tha does not make it any less important and at times he was like having an extra flanker out there. Defensively he reminded me very much of BOD, who is one of the best defensive centres in the world.
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:21 pm

basically that chap has done those ratings whilst drunk.

Absolutely ridiculous. Barret was a 6 or 7. Sharples was a 6 as was robshaw and Corbs

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Post by stnick88 Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:24 pm

sharples doesnt deserve the same as robshaw or corbs.


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